Anyone following the Alex Murdaugh trial in SC ?

hollydolly said:
you'll be asking for Queen next... take what you're given, you, you, you demanding French Madame... 😖:ROFLMAO:
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Get it right: Canuck. You make it sound like I'm in charge of a house of ill repute:eek: You know...where Ladies of the Night congregate and wait for Gentlemen Friends to call.
 

hollydolly said:
yes I'm talking about the trial in NC.. specifically. The court reporters say that there's to be no transcripts.. they all seem very surprised about it, as they would be.. particualrly as there has been no notes been taken.. I want to know why the no notes ruling was given, no-one seems to know..
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They must mean no transcripts can be published.

No one who's life hangs in the balance in a US courtroom has to rely on the fallible memories of 12 strangers. There's no way.
 

hearlady said:
The brother's testimony yesterday was so sad. He was a good witness for the defense.
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he absolutely was, I agree. The defence pulled a hat trick putting the expert on before him and then the brother. It left the jury with an idea that

1.. it needed 2 people to have killed the pair... with 2 guns.. it would have been nigh on impossible according to the expert for one person to have done it.. ( the fact that the expert kept saying it would have been too awkward for the killer to have carried 2 guns.. and then used, them.. didn't address the fact that both guns could have been laying right there at the scene of the crime)

2.. John Marvin gave a glowing account of his brother's character..as a loving family man aka Saint..

if the jury had,had Alex testifying last.. I'm sure they would have immediately made their mind up that he was guilty.

It'll be interesting to see who the prosecution last witnesses are today..
 
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The case will be decided by the closing arguments.

The prosecution will show the defense hasn't created any REASONABLE doubt.

Murdaugh lied on the stand and admitted it, therefore the jury will be instructed to disregard all his testimony.
They don't have to, but they do have that right if they wish.

No other footprints were found on the scene which dismisses any reasonable doubt. One would have to believe levitated aliens or ghosts appeared and shot the two victims dead and then disappeared.

The absents of any other tire prints.

The time frame of 13 minutes makes it impossible for someone to get on the scene and then just vanish.

They will mention that the guns used were similar to the ones Murdaugh owned or had previously.

The motive will be the financial ruin that he put his family through and the fact that Maggie had seen a divorce attorney and was planning how to distance herself from this madman. Also, Pauls's case for manslaughter in his boating accident was coming up and that alone would finish off Murdaugh because of what it would expose.

Murdaugh didn't have to testify, but he chose to and his testimony was nothing but trying to prove his innocence. Why would an innocent man, a high-profile lawyer, go to such great lengths to prove his innocence when the burden of proof is all on the prosecution? From the get-go, he set up his defense by telling the first police on the scene about his sons Paul's boat accident. He planted the seed that might confuse the jury.

The defense will try and confuse the jury with the disputed testimony of the legal pathologist that supposed a two-person theory.

They will resort to using Murdaugh's testimony as proof he admitted what a crook and liar he is, but that just shows his newfound honesty about how he wouldn't ever harm either his wife or son. Evidence to prove otherwise was not allowed by the DA.

They will drive home that no blood splatter was found on Murdaugh. They will deny the pathology that explains why.

They will drive home the fact that the murder weapons were never found.

All they have to do is get one juror to have just a glimpse of doubt and they win. No one can question or interrogate the dissenting juror on why they have doubt when such doubt isn't reasonable but would require the supernatural to happen. A juror can have doubt based on Murdaugh's body language and while that isn't reasonable or legal, they don't have to explain why.

I figure there is a 90% chance he will get off. He had this entire thing planned for a long time in my opinion.
 
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hearlady said:
Do you rest your cases? 😎
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No.. not yet... However the states last witnesses are a disappointment.. A friend and partner of Murdough.. who despite his protestations that he's not angry at Alex for destroying their business.. and for costing him millions of dollars out of pocket... it's clear he has in fact come to stick the knife in, telling the jury AM is theatrical when it comes to speaking to Juries..... ( not that I'm saying AM doesn't deserve it).. but it's a weak prosecution witness .. the jury will see this man is boiling with anger, and possibly looking for revenge).. second one is the forensic expert who has already testified, who when questioned again as to why she didn't X-ray the head at the point of injury stuttered and stammered her excuses, sticking her chest out with pride that she didn't need to because she'd carried out upwards of 5500 autopsies.. then when questioned further had to admit she hadn't ever carried out autopsy on a murder where the brains were shot out...

It's as messy as can be.....

We've still got to wait for the Jury to go to Moselle to the crime area.. albeit almost 2 years on but it will give them a view of distance etc..

It's clear to a Blind man the only peron who could have committed this crime is AM.. but the state has to prove it and they haven't !
 
Well disappointingly the States last witnesses have all been rehashes of previous witnesses or rebuttals, yet when the Defence asked to bring back a witness as a rebuttal they were refused by the judge..

I think AM' s friend and partner of 34 years Mark Ball .. was the most even handed. He didn't come across to the court as aggressive and angry as the previous partner witness Ronni Crosby.. altho' Mark made it clear that altho' he thought he knew AM extremely well over 34 years he realises now he never knew him at all and that he was a perpetual liar ... and due to his convincing lies the office where they were all employed had to have security measures installed for several months because they thought , because AM led them to believe there was someone bent on revenge for the Paul Murdough pending murder case..

As for the Cyber forensive expert... he was so ridiculous the court laughed at one point , and Murdough was smirking .. .. as he testified that he threw Maggies phone around in his office as forensic experiment.. no record of doing it.. no video.. just supposed to take his word for his results.. .. ..

IMO this has to be the hardest part to deal with for everyone who called AM their friend.. to realise that someone you've spent the majority of your life working with, playing with, taking holidays with.. confiding in.. is someone who couldn't be trusted on any level is a power blow to the chest !

Going back to watch the rest of the afternoon proceedings shortly.. there's only one more witness, and again it's someone who testified previously...

No Uncle Eddie.. We really need to know who Cousin Eddie was giving all the money too.. I wonder why he's not been subpoena to appear
 
Jace said:
Just heard on news, one juror dismissed..for talking to someone...but didn't catch details.

Anyone?
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yes she apparently talked about different exhibits shown throughout the case, with 3 different people. The judge was kind to her instead of tearing her off a strip because as he said to her, this wouldn't have made any difference to the case, and you didn't intentionally mean to cause a problem, but you directly went against the courts' orders not to talk with anyone about anything to do with the case!

When he asked what she needed the Bailiff to retrieve from the jury room for her.. she said her purse, water and a dozen eggs which she'd brought in for the other jury members.. The judge then asked.. ''do you want to leave the eggs, and she said NO ''.. He laughed...

So now they've had to replace her with another Juror.. to hear closing arguments..
 
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I wonder what her mindset was 🤔
that she thought she wouldn't get caught?

Did she do it on purpose..that she really didn't want to be a juror..to determine the fate of another 🤔
 
Jace said:
I wonder what her mindset was 🤔
that she thought she wouldn't get caught?

Did she do it on purpose..that she really didn't want to be a juror..to determine the fate of another 🤔
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I don't think so because when she was questioned by the Sled agents..yep the same agency who are involved in the trial.. she denied it... and then she was brought in front of the judge last night, and she continued to deny it.. then Sled got hold of some recordings that proved she had... so clearly if she wanted to be off the trial she wouldn't have denied it.. IMO>.
 
hollydolly said:
yes that's what I'm hoping... because we're talking Millions of dollars that Alex made out to Eddie.. more than he's ever seen in his life probably.. but then he forwarded it on to someone.. and we need to know who !!
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If AM is found not guilty of both murders, I'm wondering if he'll be kept behind bars while awaiting trial on the fraud charges. If I were the judge, I'd definitely consider him a flight risk. His attorney would request monitored tether in that case, one of those ankle bracelets, and a judge would probably grant it, but people have escaped from those things. I don't doubt he has a plan if it goes that way.
 
Murrmurr said:
If AM is found not guilty of both murders, I'm wondering if he'll be kept behind bars while awaiting trial on the fraud charges. If I were the judge, I'd definitely consider him a flight risk. His attorney would request monitored tether in that case, one of those ankle bracelets, and a judge would probably grant it, but people have escaped from those things. I don't doubt he has a plan if it goes that way.
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I absolutely agree, my thoughts exactly all through this...

They also have to remember that he ''tried to kill himself'' so aside from being a flight risk, he's also a suicide risk..in theory!

However the judge in this trial is the same judge that blocked his bond in the past.. and after appeal another judge known for her leniency with regard bail was sought and she granted him Bail.. but it was eventually overturned, and he's been on remand since Autumn 2021.

I feel that if they find it not proven in the murder case.. he knows that he will go to prison for probably 30 years for the embezzlement charges.. perhaps he's narcissistic enough to think he'll sail through his time.. still controlling finances from inside prison until his release..or maybe he'll realise he can't face prison for decades, and does kill himself..

Having listened to the phone conversations from prison between him and various members of his family.. he's controlling other prisoners already, with promises of various legal help.. if they allow him to use their Canteen allowance. So.. on remand he's only permitted £60 per week to be deposited in his canteen by family and friends.. so he has other prisoners who have no canteen.. to allow him to use theirs, so therefore getting several amounts of £60 deposited for his use from others accounts!

When asked by one of his family members why he needed so much money he stated it was because he needs Ibuprofen for sore muscles after gym in Prison...Purlease... these are educated intelligent people.. why can't they see through this, when we can ?
 
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while I haven't been FOLLOWING this case ACTIVELY, it's certainly hard to miss all the media hype that surrounds it. however. I have listened to both closing arguments in their entirety. when it was the defense's turn, it was like my grandma was sitting next to me, shaking her head and muttering, 'if ya can't dazzle 'em with your fancy footwork, then just baffle 'em with bullshit..."
 

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