Seven Henrico County Virginia Sheriff Deputies Arrested for 2nd Degree Murder

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I can understand keeping a pt. in cuffs during intake. Most pts. aren't happy to be there, and are way too eager to convince you of that fact. But if the rest of the story is true about abuse and withholding of meds is the question, why? If you have an overactive pt. why withhold meds??????
 

fuzzybuddy said:
I can understand keeping a pt. in cuffs during intake. Most pts. aren't happy to be there, and are way too eager to convince you of that fact. But if the rest of the story is true about abuse and withholding of meds is the question, why? If you have an overactive pt. why withhold meds??????
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What is a pt ?
 
Wow, another one... I tend to try and give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt in these things, but this time the evidence must be bad. Bad enough for the prosecutor to charge 7 people with second degree murder. Maybe strong enforcement will help end this kind of thing...

I am sure the videos will be released and we'll learn more about what really happened... can't be good, a man died.
 
Thread title sums it up and is well sourced but a brief description/summation helps in the first paragraph. Most don't have time to click on everything or get tied up in one thread. I heard the lawyer yesterday on radio. Seven people on one guy sums it up.

Many don't know how to handle a mental patient or unruly prisoner which is a problem in itself which is frequently a result of policy and training.

Then there are the ends justify the means types/what ever they can get away with.

Also keep in mind as with many government jobs even law enforcement it takes a political reference above all else to get hired(who you know). Sometimes it's on paper and others it's a call or code on an application, interview etc. If these deputies were hired properly this might not have happened. But it could policy and training as well.
 
WhatInThe said:
Many don't know how to handle a mental patient or unruly prisoner which is a problem in itself which is frequently a result of policy and training.
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I am sure that's true, and probably the case here. However I don't understand why he could not have been just physically restrained... non lethally. Any law enforcement officer should have the training to do that.
 
This is almost unbelievable that our law enforcement is still acting in the manner described. I would like to view the video before giving any opinions. Reading that it took 10 people to control one person even after being cuffed and shackled sounds questionable.

I know people that have mental or emotional disorders can act uncontrollable and seem to have super strength, but 10 people after being cuffed and shackled? I would really like to see the video.
 
Alligatorob said:
I am sure that's true, and probably the case here. However I don't understand why he could not have been just physically restrained... non lethally. Any law enforcement officer should have the training to do that.
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My guess they violated the first rule of confrontation. Stay cool stay calm being they were supposed to be the professionals.

Staying calm might also keep the patient or prisoner calm but if they even sense aggression before being physically handled they will react. That's nature, a survival instinct.
 
rgp said:
What is a pt ?
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Pt: In script it is the short term for a patient in need of medical treatment. In script EDP a/k/a emotionally disturbed patient/person who is in need of psychiatric evaluation and treatment.
 
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I'm having a seriously hard time grasping this. It's horrifying...
In addition: 3 hospital employees have also been charged with 2nd degree murder and
3 1/2 HOURS passed before the state police were called. There was no call to 911. They
called the #$#@# undertaker before they called the state police! What the heck?! 🤬
 
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It looks interesting but ..... I did look up the county to see it is home to Richmond so that explains a little by knowing it's a large metropolitan area.

Will just say generally that as we all know mental health care must be improved so that the mentally ill are not on the streets. It's going to take a tremendous amount of money to do that but we are spending tremendous amounts of money on other countries and on a long list of things in this country that don't seem as important to me as mental illness.

Also, what happened to sending out qualified unarmed social workers to handle mental illness calls? Wasn't that all the rage just a couple of years ago? Cops are not doctors and should not be expected to know how to handle mental illness. Let those who are trained go instead.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Sorry, I'm a Registered Nurse. Pt is patient. Today, we're suppose to call patients, "clients". Yuck.
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Extremely interesting when language is changed. Do you know the reason, Fuzz? I don't want to be called a 'client.' Seems very wrong to do this, but finding it hard to express why.
 
Pepper said:
Extremely interesting when language is changed. Do you know the reason, Fuzz? I don't want to be called a 'client.' Seems very wrong to do this, but finding it hard to express why.
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With the things we hear these days, my guess would be that being called a "patient" might offend someone. :rolleyes:
I can't believe some of the established things that are being changed because someone may or may not whine
about whatever it was.
 
Pepper said:
Extremely interesting when language is changed. Do you know the reason, Fuzz? I don't want to be called a 'client.' Seems very wrong to do this, but finding it hard to express why.
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It's when Registered Nurses became Nurse Practitioners, who could prescribe medication. The higher ups in state nursing boards felt that "client" was a better term to describe the relationship between a Nurse Pract. and the person getting treatment. It also indicates that the Nur. Pract. is getting paid by the "client", which is insurance talk. I think it's hoity-toity BS. Doctors have "patients".
 
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