$5 million is too little:' Activists tell California reparations committee to aim higher

Alligatorob said:
I would not hold it against anyone who does. The blame would lie with those offering, not those taking advantage of the offer...
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To quote my friend Donzelle, "My great-great-grandfather was a slave. I've never been a slave to no one. He suffered, for sure. I never had to. I can go where I want, live where I want, go to any college I want, I have the job I want. I live in a great country, thanks to my great-great-grandfather being brought here. I'm doing that man proud, and the state can shove that money up their a$$e$."
 
Murrmurr said:
To quote my friend Donzelle, "My great-great-grandfather was a slave. I've never been a slave to no one. He suffered, for sure. I never had to. I can go where I want, live where I want, go to any college I want, I have the job I want. I live in a great country, thanks to my great-great-grandfather being brought here. I'm doing that man proud, and the state can shove that money up their a$$e$."
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My wife said pretty much the same thing, btw, and so do my in-laws.
 

Lethe200 said:
As CA is facing a deficit, rather than a surplus as expected, there is NO MONEY to fund ANY reparations anyway, so everybody's "reparation amounts" are increasingly moot. Like most politics, it's a lot of hot air floating pointless balloons.
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Not entirely pointless. That hot air could get a lot of votes from virtue-signalers and the poor and unemployed. There's a lot of both here in California.
 
Lethe200 said:
As CA is facing a deficit, rather than a surplus as expected, there is NO MONEY to fund ANY reparations anyway, so everybody's "reparation amounts" are increasingly moot.
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Knight said:
The task force is considering a proposal to give just under $360,000 per person to approximately 1.8 million Black Californians who had an ancestor enslaved in the U.S., putting the total cost of the program at about $640 billion.
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The lack of money thing could easily be fixed by only awarding the reparations to Black Californians who had an ancestor enslaved in California. That would be zero. Politicians could still take credit for a great thing without having to pay anything for it...
 
Alligatorob said:
The lack of money thing could easily be fixed by only awarding the reparations to Black Californians who had an ancestor enslaved in California. That would be zero. Politicians could still take credit for a great thing without having to pay anything for it...
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"Politicians could still take credit for a great thing without having to pay anything for it...:

Makes sense but is this as an idea a great thing?
 
Many Californians, including some close to me, have packed up and headed for Texas, Idaho, and parts unknown. If some some trillion dollar race based bailout actually is dumped on us, Boise and Austin will start looking very good.
 
AnnieA said:
Agreed. There are many black American descendants of slaves who feel that reparations talk fosters a victim mentality.
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I worked with a Black man who was a favorite speaker at shareholder meetings and a great guy. When we got out of the stock transfer business, he was laid off with a fat bonus - X weeks pay for every year of service. Last day was a Friday. He went to work the following Monday with a rival bank, and as I recall, a $10,000 signing bonus. BTW, I was told by another friend of his that his family were members of a party whose name begins with R.
 
Personally, I have no opinion on the matter. However, aside from the fact that any state would want to give money to people that may have been related to slaves 160 years ago, I am wondering what is their reasoning for doing so? Giving reparations to descendants of people that long ago accomplish zip. Making a contribution to one of the funds that would enable all people of a certain color would be more beneficial. For example; why not contribute the millions or billions of dollars to the United *****’s College Fund, or NAACP? I’m sure there are other funds that would aid more blacks that trying to figure who is and who isn’t a descendant.

What is their reasoning? Maybe to help clear their conscience? My ancestors weren’t even in this country in 1863.
 
ElCastor said:
I worked with a Black man who was a favorite speaker at shareholder meetings and a great guy. When we got out of the stock transfer business, he was laid off with a fat bonus - X weeks pay for every year of service. Last day was a Friday. He went to work the following Monday with a rival bank, and as I recall, a $10,000 signing bonus. BTW, I was told by another friend of his that his family were members of a party whose name begins with R.
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It's more to do with education and work ethic than party ...at least for people I know. Most people of any color (unless they are politicians or work in political support roles) who have sense enough to be successful through hard work also have sense enough to know when a thing isn't economically sustainable and to see the negative impact wishful thinking can have on people who could better spend that mental energy improving their lives.
 
Murrmurr said:
Not when race is attached to the offer. I lived in a very predominantly black community until just recently, and have African ancestry. You don't know what you're talking about. That said, if $5-mil was offered to any race for some perceived injustice, of course there'd be takers; there are unprincipled people among all races.

I'm telling you not EVERY black person in America would take the money.
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Ok, 99.9 %
 
Here is something you may not be aware of regarding reparations of slavery:

Slavery existed for 250 years in the United States.
For 180 years, (from Jamestown in 1607 to our Constitution in 1789)
America was part of Great Britain. This was 72% of those years.

For the remaining 70 years, (1789 to 1863, the emancipation proclamation)
we were self-ruled; representing 28% of the years.
Slavery was outlawed in 1808 in New England and New York.

So, We should send the British Parliament a bill for 72% of all reparation costs.

And perhaps we should subtract the free welfare money since 1965?
 
Gaer said:
Here is something you may not be aware of regarding reparations of slavery:

Slavery existed for 250 years in the United States.
For 180 years, (from Jamestown in 1607 to our Constitution in 1789)
America was part of Great Britain. This was 72% of those years.

For the remaining 70 years, (1789 to 1863, the emancipation proclamation)
we were self-ruled; representing 28% of the years.
Slavery was outlawed in 1808 in New England and New York.

So, We should send the British Parliament a bill for 72% of all reparation costs.

And perhaps we should subtract the free welfare money since 1965?
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Another interesting fact about slavery few people are aware of; slave traders did not go into the interior of Africa to "catch" slaves. Various powerful African tribal chiefs sent their warriors out to capture men and women from weak, vulnerable tribes, and sold them at specific ports on the west coast or in the east to buyers from middle-eastern and Mediterranean countries.

White men who entered Africa's interior died within a matter of months from malaria and other diseases from which they had no immunity, parasites, infections, and attacks by tribes.
 
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garyt1957 said:
It's called HUMAN nature jack--- who said anything about strictly black people?
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You did, in your first comment.

And this thread is about Black people...Black residents of Calif.

You said Black people possess "human nature", which I understand as a natural inclination, that would make every one of them void of ethics, save for a tiny bit over 0%.
 
If any reparations are to be made, let those who sold them into slavery be responsible for that, not you or me or anyone else today in this country. So-called descendants of slaves should take a page out of Alex Hailey's Roots and find those whose families were responsible in the first place. As for ponying up for discrimination, well, show me one ethnic group that hasn't gone through that in this country and still is. I am not necessarily referring to the black community either.
 

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