What do you think of dreams, are they prophetic or just the mind defragging?

I've had some prophetic dreams, and many lucid dreams. I'm not sure if a flying dream is considered an OBE but I have those regularly and love them. I had one once where I flew up to northern California and joined some people having a picnic among the redwoods. Very pleasant. I often dream of loved ones and pets who have died. It's wonderful to see them again.
 
Not sure about the tats combined with the manties as it might cause some of the older gals to faint from the sheer pleasure of the sight...
 
Glinda said:
I've had some prophetic dreams, and many lucid dreams. I'm not sure if a flying dream is considered an OBE but I have those regularly and love them. I had one once where I flew up to northern California and joined some people having a picnic among the redwoods. Very pleasant. I often dream of loved ones and pets who have died. It's wonderful to see them again.
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That's the only dream I believe prophetic. My family always believed that if you dream of people who have died, they are actually contacting and communicating.. I have those dreams on occasions.
 
merlin said:
Yes I did work on lucid dreams in the '80s and do have a rare one from time to time, I have never had an OBE, but I did have an accidental odd experience the other day.

I found some chocolate brownies in the freezer that had been their for longer than I care to guess.
I defrosted them and ate a couple but later came to realise they were cannabis brownies :stupid: which I had forgotten making, as I am not into any of that these days.
I subsequently went on an unplanned trip where the voice came came out of the radio, and I could see emails coming in without being near a computer. I could read them as well, but on checking later they were not real ones. For a moment I thought I had developed a new skill :cool1:

I must be careful in future to label things I put in the freezer :coffeelaugh:
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A friend of ours had an OBE once. He said it was the oddest sensation to realize that it was him laying in the bed beside his wife even as he stood at the foot of the bed and like all who have them, he said the whole feeling was one of more realism than he feels when he is awake. His experience was a catalyst for me to begin reading all that I could find on the subject.

Have you ever read the books by Robert Monroe? Three books that chronicle his experiences with OBE's and it's his contention that the 'dreams' that we have are actually each individuals 'spirit/soul' or whatever, leaving our bodies for short periods while our mind is unconscious and I guess 'recharging' in an alternate dimension. I guess sort of like the Star Trek folks taking a holiday on the hollideck (How do you spell that?). Anyway, fascinating books and then there's Tom Campbell who's career in large part was spent as a NASA physicist, and was a compatriot of Robert Monroe's and set up the labs at the Monroe Institute in Virginia. The Institute specializes in research into consciousness and is legitimate enough that the US military made use of their facilities and research at one point. If you haven't already read Monroe's books and you enjoy a good 'adventure', I think you'd find his writings very intriguing.

As to the rest of your post, was it overall an interesting experience because it was unexpected or were you like that cop years ago who took some pot off people he stopped, baked it into brownies and then he and his wife ate too much and thought they were dead because 'times was going by really slowly'?

 
Debby, had a strange experience in my twenties when I was living with the Englishman. We were in bed one night and I was trying to astral travel while awake. Fell asleep, woke in the middle of the night to see my boyfriend (wearing his green pajamas) rising up toward the ceiling in front of the closet. It did not resemble the man I knew, but appeared like a wax-like being filled with smoke. I could see clearly , even though I was not wearing my glasses. As far as I am aware I had not been dreaming. I recall blinking my eyes to test for reality, then, bam, it was as if something shut off my consciousness, and I fell asleep until morning. Upon waking, first thing that came to mind was my experience, and the feeling I had witnessed something I was not ready to see. Never happened again, but my memory of sharply lingers. Who knows??
 
I dream, but most of them are more or less nonsense upon waking. I often dream of being late for something important, or unable to find something I REALLY need. Though I don't work anymore, a lot of my dreams involve working.
 
Glinda said:
I've had some prophetic dreams, and many lucid dreams. I'm not sure if a flying dream is considered an OBE but I have those regularly and love them. I had one once where I flew up to northern California and joined some people having a picnic among the redwoods. Very pleasant. I often dream of loved ones and pets who have died. It's wonderful to see them again.
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People who have OBE's say they are totally different from dreams although you can do all the aerobatics or be somewhere in the blink of an eye of whatever. They say when you have an OBE you know you are awake and your body is 'there' and still sleeping. We have a friend who experienced that once and he says you pretty much know that it wasn't a dream.

I had a lucid dream and I woke up from it within an instant of realizing that I was awake within my dream and it left me with the most interesting sense of peace throughout the next day. Quite a pleasure really even though I didn't get to experience much during the 'dream'.
 
Cookie said:
Debbie, I think I'll see if I can find Monroe's books. They sound intriguing.
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Try looking for them on Abe Books. That's an online site for used books (and some new) and I find that it's sometimes a bit cheaper than Amazon. And you should pick up the set and start with the first one which is called Journey's Out of the Body. That one deals with the first months of the experience and how it impacted him and how he began to understand and explore the OB experience. The next is called Far Journeys and the last, The Ultimate Journey and they all build on one another. He made a point, right from the beginning to take notes and keep journals of each experience. Sort of a non-professional scientist which ultimately led him to working with a young, recently graduated physicist, Tom Campbell. I think you won't be disappointed if you read them and if you've an open mind and consider the ramifications of what he suggests......seriously mind blowing. Anyway, hope you like them as much as I do.
 
Debby said:
A friend of ours had an OBE once. He said it was the oddest sensation to realize that it was him laying in the bed beside his wife even as he stood at the foot of the bed and like all who have them, he said the whole feeling was one of more realism than he feels when he is awake. His experience was a catalyst for me to begin reading all that I could find on the subject.

Have you ever read the books by Robert Monroe? Three books that chronicle his experiences with OBE's and it's his contention that the 'dreams' that we have are actually each individuals 'spirit/soul' or whatever, leaving our bodies for short periods while our mind is unconscious and I guess 'recharging' in an alternate dimension. I guess sort of like the Star Trek folks taking a holiday on the hollideck (How do you spell that?). Anyway, fascinating books and then there's Tom Campbell who's career in large part was spent as a NASA physicist, and was a compatriot of Robert Monroe's and set up the labs at the Monroe Institute in Virginia. The Institute specializes in research into consciousness and is legitimate enough that the US military made use of their facilities and research at one point. If you haven't already read Monroe's books and you enjoy a good 'adventure', I think you'd find his writings very intriguing.

As to the rest of your post, was it overall an interesting experience because it was unexpected or were you like that cop years ago who took some pot off people he stopped, baked it into brownies and then he and his wife ate too much and thought they were dead because 'times was going by really slowly'?
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I didn't actually like the trip Debbie, partly because it was not planned and kinda messed up my day, but also I never really got on with cannabis and have only tried it a half dozen times over the past 20 years. I can't smoke it, because I have never smoked so I just can't inhale without choking. I didn't ever get the stoned feeling which people talk about, only weird trips.

On the other hand when I grew and used psilocybin mushrooms about ten years ago, I had many trips and a couple of bad ones which stopped me using them in the end. I found the beautiful visual effects of scrambling your brain and the timeless periods of extreme peace when coming down wonderful.
Funnily enough I still have a block of psilocybin chocolate in the freezer somewhere :confused: though no desire to use it.

The only drug I use now is alcohol in the form of beer, and vodka/gin/cognac at times when in Russia mainly (I think) because its cheaper than soft drinks there. :) The calming floaty effect that alcohol gives me I do like, even though I know its really a poison and a depressant!! I didn't start drinking until I was in my 50s so I guess my liver will see me out :)

Having wandered off the subject a bit, back to OBE; I studied in a local dream group for a while in the 80/90s and then trained as a spiritual healer with the NFSH during the early '80s, working mainly with people having terminal cancer.

During this time I was exposed to a lot of the ideas you mentioned about our spirits leaving the body and the connections we all have to one another etc.
I was immersed in a heady spiritual world which brought me into contact with many lovely and interesting people, as well as mentally unstable ones :confused:

Having a very strong left brain I slip out of my spiritual side and into the physical world all too easily. I am on a sort of plateau of easy living in the physical realm at the moment, with an underlying restlessness for reasons unknown.

Thank you Debby for the reading recommendations, I am not familiar with either Robert Monroe or Tom Campbell, I will look into their books, maybe I am ready for a good adventure :eek:nthego:

The video was hilarious, thanks for that!!
 
Shalimar said:
Debby, had a strange experience in my twenties when I was living with the Englishman. We were in bed one night and I was trying to astral travel while awake. Fell asleep, woke in the middle of the night to see my boyfriend (wearing his green pajamas) rising up toward the ceiling in front of the closet. It did not resemble the man I knew, but appeared like a wax-like being filled with smoke. I could see clearly , even though I was not wearing my glasses. As far as I am aware I had not been dreaming. I recall blinking my eyes to test for reality, then, bam, it was as if something shut off my consciousness, and I fell asleep until morning. Upon waking, first thing that came to mind was my experience, and the feeling I had witnessed something I was not ready to see. Never happened again, but my memory of sharply lingers. Who knows??
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Wow, that sounds really interesting! It's also interesting how those kinds of 'moments' stay with you for decades isn't it? Years ago, I had a dream that I was in a semi darkened place, sitting on a small stool and there seemed to be a few people standing in the shadows. 'Someone' shot me in the right side of my head and I tipped off the stool. What was interesting about the whole thing was that I was absolutely unafraid and indeed felt extremely peaceful about the whole situation. The memory of it comes back constantly and I still feel peaceful about it.
 
QuickSilver said:
That's the only dream I believe prophetic. My family always believed that if you dream of people who have died, they are actually contacting and communicating.. I have those dreams on occasions.
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I have those quite often and I like think that's what's happening. I dream about my mother who died in '98 and grandmother who died in '91.

When I quit smoking I dreamed I was smoking. After menopause I dreamed I was pregnant or had a new baby.
 
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