Let Things Lie

Medusa said:
Well, if we can't do that, speak openly and directly about the people being alluded to, maybe then don't. Don't insinuate, allude, or suggest, if you can't state outright. As the post says (and as @Trish reaffirmed), just leave it.

EDIT: I was just taking some laundry out of the machine (visual context is necessary for some reason) and realized I've actually done the same thing I'm talking about above on asking "people who have PM'd me" about others not to. -- So, I'll leave it too.
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I sometimes think to myself that discussing things here isn’t like discussing with a small group of friends or acquaintances, say out somewhere in a social setting, maybe say a group of 5 people or so. Where those 5 people might have said what they want to say on a subject, then collectively, even without saying it, have decided to move on to something else. Easy to do I think, in a small group of people.

The thing is, this group isn’t a small group of people, there could at times be hundreds of people reading one thread, and feeling that they to have something to say on the mater. The dynamic is therefore different. Its then not small group of people; it could become a Town Hall Meeting. Which sometimes gets out of hand? I think regardless of the OP saying “move on”, in this thread at least, it was never going to happen. We now have 127 posts here, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the will be more on the subject.
 
Magna-Carta said:
You remember that one too? *sigh...* :)

Update: In one thread I was put on ignore for pointing those words out, and for trying to seek clarification of them.
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I think I probably was also put on ignore for providing the definition. I wasn't echoing the sentiment, merely explaining the meaning and its original source.

Such is life...
 
Trish said:
In the best interests of the forum and everyone who uses it, please can we just, as the title suggests, let things lie? Have a good day everyone. :)
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That is your view. Not shared by everyone as being 'in the best interest of the forum'.
How boring it would be if we all acted complacent and leave topics alone for fear of voicing an opposing view.
Bringing color to topics can be enlightening at best, conflicting at worst. In the case of the later, the ignore button is always available.
 
Sippican said:
That is your view. Not shared by everyone as being 'in the best interest of the forum'.
How boring it would be if we all acted complacent and leave topics alone for fear of voicing an opposing view.
Bringing color to topics can be enlightening at best, conflicting at worst. In the case of the later, the ignore button is always available.
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Absolutely it is my view, otherwise I would not have posted it @Sippican
 
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Jamala said:
Obviously, I am not going to impart personal information and observations. That would be unethical.

However, I will say this: how can a person on a forum be stalked in full view of everyone on the forum?

Stalking can only be done if the accused person is doing it through the Private Messaging system.
Think about it.
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Please read my above post about another platform, the stalking started publicly and then went to private messages telling us how we need him to tell us how to live our lives. Because of this person, we now have the ability to block private messages on that platform but it was a long hard fight to get it. Stalking is done through both the public and private messaging systems.

In the public arena some pushed back but most generally ignored his remarks until he started on others. There are some unhealthy minds out there so please don't underestimate how clever they can be to dominate or just get attention.

For the posts that aren't abusive, it is fun to have a healthy exchange of ideas while not engaging with negative energy. We can learn so much from each other but be selective about who to let into your online, or real, life.
 
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Magna-Carta said:
I sometimes think to myself that discussing things here isn’t like discussing with a small group of friends or acquaintances, say out somewhere in a social setting, maybe say a group of 5 people or so. Where those 5 people might have said what they want to say on a subject, then collectively, even without saying it, have decided to move on to something else. Easy to do I think, in a small group of people.

The thing is, this group isn’t a small group of people, there could at times be hundreds of people reading one thread, and feeling that they to have something to say on the mater. The dynamic is therefore different. Its then not small group of people; it could become a Town Hall Meeting. Which sometimes gets out of hand? I think regardless of the OP saying “move on”, in this thread at least, it was never going to happen. We now have 127 posts here, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the will be more on the subject.
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I'm not sure how to reply to this as I don't completely agree with it (so a "like" doesn't quite work), don't completely disagree with it (the angry face would be way out of bounds), but also have nothing to add to it. Yet, I don't want to ignore it as that would imply, well, that I'm ignoring it for some reason.

Hence: Noted. 🙃

We need a ✅ emoji.
 
Medusa said:
I'm not sure how to reply to this as I don't completely agree with it (so a "like" doesn't quite work), don't completely disagree with it (the angry face would be way out of bounds), but also have nothing to add to it. Yet, I don't want to ignore it as that would imply, well, that I'm ignoring it for some reason.

Hence: Noted. 🙃

We need a ✅ emoji.
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There are things I see in posts that I might only partly agree with, but significantly enough for me to click 'Like'. There are some things in other posts that I might not mostly agree with, but I might click ‘Like’ because of how it was put over. Personally, I try not to read too much into people’s emoji’s. If people really want me to fully understand their reaction to a post of mine, tell me using words instead. I’m not going to judge someone’s reaction to much from an emoji. I think that would be a bit silly. It amazes me how many seem to read a novel into other peoples emojis.
 
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Magna-Carta said:
There are things I see in posts that I might only partly agree with, but significantly enough for me to click 'Like'. There are some things in other posts that I might not mostly agree with, but I might click ‘Like’ because of how it was put over. Personally, I try not to read too much into people’s emoji’s. If people really want me to fully understand their reaction to a post of mine, tell me using words instead. I’m not going to judge someone’s reaction to much from an emoji. I think that would be a bit silly. It amazes me how many seem to read a novel into other peoples emojis.
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I think emojis, much like facial expressions, can be potent communicators and should be used carefully.
 
Medusa said:
I think emojis, much like facial expressions, can be potent communicators and should be used carefully.
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Possibly, which leads me on to a thought. How easily might it be to fake an emoji, compared to a facial expression. I think many people can interpret facial expressions reasonably well.

An emoji on the other hand might in reality have nothing to do with the poster’s emotion. Emojis can certainly be potent as you say. We only have to look at some forums to see how much they can instil negative emotions in the minds of the reader when no negativity was intended.

Put 5 people in a room and ask them to gauge the facial expression of another, and we might get 5 similar answers. Do the same with an emoji, after the 5 people observing have read through posts in a thread, and we might get 5 very different answers/interpretations of the emoji.

I think regardless of how carful someone might use an emoji, the risk of misinterpretation can be high with some who are observing it.
 
Medusa said:
What.The.Hell is going on? Seriously, what?

Just a few weeks ago (maybe several) I was commenting about how I couldn't see any bullying, or cliquish behavior here and that is one of the things I love about this forum.

Admittedly, I have since blocked a few people for personal reasons having nothing whatever to do with the wider forum or any particular groups of people.

Now, lots of people seem to be talking in suggestion and innuendo about whose doing what to whom. For real, what the freaking hell is going on?

Can't we just put it out there?

Side Note: I say this with love to the few peeps who have PM'd me in the past informing me of the apparent evils of other members: Stop that, please. I don't want to hear it. ♥ Love. But seriously, I don't want to hear it.

Really, what's going on, though?
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How does one go about blocking someone?
 
Medusa said:
I'm not sure how to reply to this as I don't completely agree with it (so a "like" doesn't quite work), don't completely disagree with it (the angry face would be way out of bounds), but also have nothing to add to it. Yet, I don't want to ignore it as that would imply, well, that I'm ignoring it for some reason.

Hence: Noted. 🙃

We need a ✅ emoji.
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What would your interpretation of this be?

What would everyone else’s interpretation of this check mark be?
 
Magna-Carta said:
How does one go about blocking someone?
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Mouse over their profile image at the left, then click "ignore" in the rectangle that pops up.

@Magna-Carta - Yes they're the same thing. That's the point. You're (very slowly) catching on. :rolleyes:
It is often helpful to think before posting. That way it's easier to understand and figure things out. ✔️
 
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John cycling said:
Mouse over their profile image at the left, then click "ignore" in the rectangle that pops up. ✔️
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I don't see "Ignore" as "blocking". They are two different words, and therefore have two different meanings. Instead I see Ignore as preventing oneself from seeing someone’s post. The other person, the Ignored person, isn’t being blocked as such.

“Ignore”, as far as I’m aware, doesn’t send a message to the person being ignored. Yet it seems that some people might take offense if someone they are ignoring responds to their posts, or even perhaps for clicking like on their post. Did someone say they saw the other person as pathetic for clicking ‘Like’ after they have been ignored? How on earth is the ignored person to know?
 
Magna-Carta said:
I don't see "Ignore" as "blocking". They are two different words, and therefore have two different meanings. Instead I see Ignore as preventing oneself from seeing someone’s post. The other person, the Ignored person, isn’t being blocked as such.

“Ignore”, as far as I’m aware, doesn’t send a message to the person being ignored. Yet it seems that some people might take offense if someone they are ignoring responds to their posts, or even perhaps for clicking like on their post. Did someone say they saw the other person as pathetic for clicking ‘Like’ after they have been ignored? How on earth is the ignored person to know?
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They wouldn't know they were being ignored unless the person ignoring them made a public announcement. Some people enjoy declaring that they're ignoring someone. That's one way to find out you're being ignored. Ignoring is the closest to blocking you can get on this forum.

As far as being annoyed and complaining that someone you have put on "Ignore" is liking your posts, you can't stop it even if you publicly announce that they're doing it. I suppose whoever is ignoring that individual wants them to disappear into the ether, never to be seen again. Poof! :rolleyes:
 
Bella said:
They wouldn't know they were being ignored unless the person ignoring them made a public announcement. Some people enjoy declaring that they're ignoring someone. That's one way to find out you're being ignored. Ignoring is the closest to blocking you can get on this forum.

As far as being annoyed and complaining that someone you have put on "Ignore" is liking your posts, you can't stop it even if you publicly announce that they're doing it. I suppose whoever is ignoring that individual wants them to disappear into the ether, never to be seen again. Poof! :rolleyes:
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Then that in itself seems a bit pathetic. Even more so when the person who doesn’t know they have been placed on Ignore is then vilified for liking someone’s post.

It’s like saying how dare you click “Like” on my post after I have placed you on “Ignore” and not told you about it.
 
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Magna-Carta said:
What would your interpretation of this be?

What would everyone else’s interpretation of this check mark be?
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Forget the ✅, we need a "grow the eff up" emoji.

Magna-Carta said:
Then that in itself seems a bit pathetic. Even more so when the person who doesn’t know they have been placed on Ignore is then vilified for liking someone’s post.
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See my above comment. :rolleyes:
 
hearlady said:
So many times there are the inevitable squabbles that come with participating in a forum with so many different people from so many cultures and values. I think it's fine, in fact I love the (usually) healthy debate.
One thing we have in common is that we're seniors. Most people at this point have wisdom and common sense.
So, when there is a squabble and it dies down and people get back to the discussion, why oh why must someone always come back in with a comment even in support of a poster? Just let it go. Its over (or so we thought.)
I'm not lecturing, I'm requesting. I won't respond to comments on this thread. I won't debate.
I won't reply, I'll let it lie.
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I never argue or engage with anyone negatively. Same in my life generally, I simply withdraw at the first sign of agro.
It took me a long time to realise what a dreadful waste of time it is and how destructive.
Yes we are seniors, we ought to know better.
 
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