Should women be allowed to go topless?

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And quite frankly, I am not concerned what you believe. The posts, however, remain 100% fact, or I would not have posted them, finding the effort to post on forums is at best a right drag and posting something that has no basis in fact is a non-starter in my life.
There is no such thing as 100% fact .... but there is 110% fantasy :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I believe you, but it sure seems to me that a lot of women put an effort into how they look, and some of that is probably for strangers... Could be wrong.
But, that wasn't the question. You asked "Don't you like men looking at you and appreciating your appearance?".

You're a nice poster @Alligatorob and I am sure what you mean by "appreciating" is not on the same level as what a lot of women have to put up with. I think that is what is being missed on this thread.
 
I am sure what you mean by "appreciating" is not on the same level as what a lot of women have to put up with. I think that is what is being missed on this thread
You may be right, I am pretty sure the only "appreciation" I show to most women is a smile. Maybe the occasional greeting, I do say hello, good morning, or the like to a lot of strangers. Probably more women than men, but not exclusively. Most people seem to like a smile and greeting, even perfect strangers.

I don't think I have ever made anyone uncomfortable, hope I have not, but I guess you can never really know.
 
You may be right, I am pretty sure the only "appreciation" I show to most women is a smile. Maybe the occasional greeting, I do say hello, good morning, or the like to a lot of strangers. Probably more women than men, but not exclusively. Most people seem to like a smile and greeting, even perfect strangers.

I don't think I have ever made anyone uncomfortable, hope I have not, but I guess you can never really know.
I often share a smile and a greeting with strangers, that's nice and pleasant and, I personally, have no problem with that :)
 
You do realize that if you were truthful on your profile, you're old enough to be daddy to some of us? Yeah... That's why I don't want to spar with you... you're my mama's age and it would feel disrespectful. But you have a right to whatever opinions you want to voice, of course.
Don't worry about that Kate, normally I post and always have as a 50-year-old, it is more fun and gets more responses. Post what you like, how you like and where you like, I am bombproof and unshockable and more to the point never take offence, unlike some shrinking violets on forums. Plus, I never take it seriously. Then really, who takes some of the dribble on forums seriously, adding this one is better than most in my opinion.

Been off this forum for a while now, and have been meaning to ask, who runs it now and how it is moderated. I seem to remember it long ago when a lot of first-class and excellent posters used it and I might not have been Avon?

And thanks for your nice post, very thoughtful and considerate of you.
 
Don't worry about that Kate, normally I post and always have as a 50-year-old, it is more fun and gets more responses. ... And thanks for your nice post, very thoughtful and considerate of you.
Oh pooh... I had edited after changing my mind and hoped you didn't see that. It was a response to the "old ladies" comment but I felt bad about saying it. And it didn't feel very nice, that's why I tried to get rid of it. :giggle: But thank you for the response and have a good night...
 
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Oh pooh... I had edited after changing my mind and hoped you didn't see that. It was a response to the "old ladies" comment but I felt bad about saying it. And it didn't feel very nice, that's why I tried to get rid of it. :giggle: But thank you for the response and have a good night... or I guess it's "day" there?
8.30pm Kate and like winter, not a topless day
 
Age old story … some men get old…

Can’t handle it …

Make up stories…

To give themselves a little boost…

Some even dye their hair…

And wear ridiculous stuff….

To try and re-capture a speck of youth…

Some have fantasies of women pursuing them…

Some even try to lobby for women’s rights…

Where were they when women fought

For the vote?
Sounds like many women I know....
These days with equality, women have to speak up for themselves.
When they are 'tested', they fold like a deck of cards.
Look at men in women sports. They cry and whine, but do nothing to stand up for themselves.
If there was any issue worth standing up for, this was it....
 
The nastiness and at times the ability to only communicate thoughts and opinions through laughter and ridicule by a minority here seems to know no bounds.

Stop sending me PMs. I am not going to get into an undignified brawl with you, so I am ignoring you and hopefuly you will have the good sense to ignore me.
I have just disabled my PM function.
 
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At least I am honest and I say what I have to say in the open.
Unlike you who has to send PMs denigrating women on the forum.
You really don't know when to stop do you Jamala. Its interesting that the PM's you sent me warned me of what other members here had said about the person I became friends with here. And the PM's you sent me regarding how to handle it and what you thought.

It is obvious you can't face rejection and so you take every opportunity to attack me... that is a problem for you.
Rejection from who specifically?

I don't take every opportunity to attack you. What many people see is the many attacks you give towards others.

Having read some of your recent posts Magna Carta, I can see your road ahead is far from clear. Quite sad actualy.
Can you give an example?

I am not going to get into an undignified brawl with you,
And yet this is exactly what you are doing and do do.

so I am ignoring you
Hallelujah, praise to the lord

and hopefuly you will have the good sense to ignore me.
I think from this point on many people with have the good sense to ignore you
 

Should women be allowed to go topless?


Oh yes, they should parade past my front door every Saturday afternoon, not, let me tell you that I would ogle them, I'd just appreciate their exquisite female form, I'm sure they'd improve my blood pressure. 😊
 
My opinion is that it is a non-issue as I doubt that many women would want to nip to the shop topless anyway, (see what I did there? 🤫;)).

Anyways, I do think it is quite cute that men might think that women are still told what to do - "allowed" indeed :ROFLMAO:

Sorry @bobcat48, no offence intended but ... allowed 🤭 🙂
You misunderstood. That was referring to the law, not men allowing it.
 

Should women be allowed to go topless?


Oh yes, they should parade past my front door every Saturday afternoon, not, let me tell you that I would ogle them, I'd just appreciate their exquisite female form, I'm sure they'd improve my blood pressure. 😊
Oh Timothy! Whatever will that nice lady opposite think :eek:;)
 
You really don't know when to stop do you Jamala. Its interesting that the PM's you sent me warned me of what other members here had said about the person I became friends with here. And the PM's you sent me regarding how to handle it and what you thought.
Oh, the joy of the underground gossipers on forums regarding other posters, every forum seems to have a couple. I think most people respond "Not interested in gossip" to such pm's.
 
How do
That's not quite how it went. Without giving too much away, you had similar concerns when I raised them with you. You also asked me for something specific about it, after your 3rd request I gave you what you requested. You pretty much matched me post for post. I have 39 PM's from you, as our discussions developed.


We were responding to each other, and each other's thoughts on the matter as a whole. As I look over those posts again now, I don't see any significant break in our communication. I did see an earlier break from our communications. A break of 8 days was created by me; I can see the date of when that happened. It was created because I needed it. You then contacted me to ask me if I'm ok as you haven't heard from me.

Later, things moved on to a different subject, and you responded positively. Again there was no break in our communications other than the one i created.


As I thought I saw it, the conversation moved on to personal experiences, which for me as challenging as they were, I mainly saw in a positive light, and I learned a lot from those experiences. You said you didn't want to participate in that anymore, and you gave your reasons. I respected that. The conversation then moved on to something completely different.

The photos that you mention above, they were based on where our conversation ultimately moved to, the countryside, and the benefits of waking in it.


Thank you for telling me that, this information you tell me now is new, and I respect that.


I think we spent a lot of time equally listening to each other, and I appreciate that. We discovered we had the same experiences on a particular subject matter.


A particular subject matter did stop, we moved to something else, and of course, that is fine. I see it as anyone's prerogative to change their mind, regardless of gender.

The last message received started with your thank you to me. And how walking is good. Ending with wishing me a good holiday. My last post was regarding walking in the countryside, and the countryside in general. Nothing was said after that. Your request to stop PM's was made publicly here. No PM's have been sent out of respect of that request.
My apologizes to you.
My post was completely uncalled for and inappropriate on many levels.

I got very uncomfortable talking via PM’s and from how this topic turned. It was wrong for me to air what I did and I’m truly sorry.

It was wrong for me to attack Avon too, which I did. His lifestyle and what he does is none of my business.

I shall stick to threads that don’t trigger me.

And, I need to add…. I’m VERY aware that I’m gossiped about here but I’m beyond caring about it now. It is what it is.
 
there is a freudian concept concerning men and breasts. As the vast majority of men have been inititalled reared on breasts their brains are forever wired to respond with an automatic survival and clutching mechanism to breasts [whoever they may belong too!] - have you ever watched a baby suckling at the breast - they are experiencing total survival satisfaction and their little fingers often claw instinctively at the breast. The experience also lays down in the brain waves everlasting pleasure insticts and memories. And so when men are sitting at the beachside and young nubile females walk past with exposed breasts all these instincts automatically kick in - it has been pre-destined from the dawn of time and cannot be changed easily - just feel some sympathy for us please and if possible put us on the breast??
 
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