The Emperor's New Clothes!

Old Salt

Old Salt

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What makes folks profess to love modern art? I like Rembrandt, Vermeer etc. Even Goguen and Van Gough, but Picasso, Pollock. they might be nice for decorations but does anyone outside the in-crowd really love them?

Don't be shy in expressing your opinion. Feel free to call me a peasant! I brought up the subject because the National Gallery of Canada bought the following for $ 1.8 million dollars back in the sixties (now worth an insane $40 million CA):

What do you think? Is the painting worth it? Are you prepared to like it?

Voice of Fire - Wikipedia.

I am not obsessed with the subject but found it interesting when I came across it a few minutes ago!
 

No. I don't get off on the "elites" love of abstract exspressionist stuff including fashion. For the "Voice of Fire".

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Voice Of Fire looks like a flag to me, doesn't engage me at all. I don't know if this is modern enough, but I

like Jackson Pollack. I've never seen any of his work I didn't like. I don't know why I like it.
 

It's horses for courses. Would you pay, if money was no object, $2Million for a rare Ferrari? What about this Ferrari?
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The Ferrari in question is more of a burnt-out shell of a car, than an actual car, is the more unusual part. Jalopnik reports that an unnamed buyer shelled out $1.875 million for a 1950's Ferrari 500 Mondial at RM Sotheby's in Monterey, California. Or at least it was a Ferrari 500 Mondial, until it crashed and caught fire.
For what it's worth, modern art goes over my head but if it sells, so be it.
 
Flarbalard said:
Voice Of Fire looks like a flag to me, doesn't engage me at all. I don't know if this is modern enough, but I

like Jackson Pollack. I've never seen any of his work I didn't like. I don't know why I like it.
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I must honestly say that I would like Jackson Pollock on a white wall in my apartment as a decoration! But I can't put a high value on splashes of paint!
 
Old Salt said:
What makes folks profess to love modern art? I like Rembrandt, Vermeer etc. Even Goguen and Van Gough, but Picasso, Pollock. they might be nice for decorations but does anyone outside the in-crowd really love them?

Don't be shy in expressing your opinion. Feel free to call me a peasant! I brought up the subject because the National Gallery of Canada bought the following for $ 1.8 million dollars back in the sixties (now worth an insane $40 million CA):

What do you think? Is the painting worth it? Are you prepared to like it?

Voice of Fire - Wikipedia.

I am not obsessed with the subject but found it interesting when I came across it a few minutes ago!
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I'm no art critic but it seems to lack originality, thought, or talent. I'd be embarrassed to even show it anyone. I'd put it in the same category as this: It's for sale at a gallery for $10,000.
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jujube said:
I look at a piece of art. Do I like it? Do I not like it? Can I afford it?

I don't particularly get anything from a Picasso, but if someone wanted to leave me one in their will, I'd certainly take it. And sell it. And buy something I liked.

To recognize something as "fine art", I don't necessarily have to like it.
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wot she said ^^^^....

My favourite Artist is Vermeer... I don't own any... I can take Picasso's art or leave it.. yet I do have a large Picasso in my house...I like Antoni Gaudi... ...I wouldn't pay an extortionate amount for any of them.....I can look at them all for free in any museum, or even online... anywhere...


As for the Ferrari example... we had a Ferrari until very recently... he paid for it.. it was his P extension... one of the most uncomfortable cars I've ever been a passenger in.. lots of looks wherever we drove.. but I don't pay for people's admiring glances..or the people who thought they could embarass themselves by trying to outrun us in their average cars... (a point being that if you own something that costs more than the average person can afford, a lot of jealousy can be stirred up)... .. nor can I see this car from the outside when I'm in it.. the same for the Maserati which we own..or he does, rather.. . .....

The joy it brings to me determines it's value in art or architecture..or cars..
 
The lowest price for a Picasso is $17m !!

So I have to be satisfied with my Picasso Blue Nude print in a very classy frame which hangs above my desk.

I love some abstract art but comparing some to my four year old grandson’s efforts then he would win hands down.

I love Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo and Leonardo Da Vinci, Botticelli and many others.
However would I have that three striped monstrosity in my house? No!!
 
hollydolly said:
wot she said ^^^^....

My favourite Artist is Vermeer... I don't own any... I can take Picasso's art or leave it.. yet I do have a large Picasso in my house...I like Antoni Gaudi... ...I wouldn't pay an extortionate amount for any of them.....I can look at them all for free in any museum, or even online... anywhere...


As for the Ferrari example... we had a Ferrari until very recently... he paid for it.. it was his P extension... one of the most uncomfortable cars I've ever been a passenger in.. lots of looks wherever we drove.. but I don't pay for people's admiring glances..or the people who thought they could embarass themselves by trying to outrun us in their average cars... (a point being that if you own something that costs more than the average person can afford, a lot of jealousy can be stirred up)... .. nor can I see this car from the outside when I'm in it.. the same for the Maserati which we own..or he does, rather.. . .....

The joy it brings to me determines it's value in art or architecture..or cars..
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You make a very pertinent point there Holly, even though it was meant in jest. The Ferrari was his phallus or an outward sign of the depth of the pocket. Is modern art much the same? "I might not really appreciate it but I can afford to buy it." Just another P extension you could argue.
 
horseless carriage said:
It's horses for courses. Would you pay, if money was no object, $2Million for a rare Ferrari? What about this Ferrari?
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The Ferrari in question is more of a burnt-out shell of a car, than an actual car, is the more unusual part. Jalopnik reports that an unnamed buyer shelled out $1.875 million for a 1950's Ferrari 500 Mondial at RM Sotheby's in Monterey, California. Or at least it was a Ferrari 500 Mondial, until it crashed and caught fire.
For what it's worth, modern art goes over my head but if it sells, so be it.
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One of the rarest Ferrari cars ever, set to make the buyer millions when restored. What has art got to do with it?
Ferrari Classic Car Auction Results - Collector Car Auction Prices
 

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