The most recent covid vax booster tested on mice.

England's annual flu and Covid vaccine drive is being brought forward due to fears of the new heavily mutated Pirola variant.

The Department of Health and Social Care announced vaccinations for care home residents and vulnerable adults will now start earlier than planned.

Health services will now start dishing out the jabs from September 11, a full month earlier than originally planned.

The 'precautionary' move comes amid fears over the spread of the mutated Pirola variant of Covid, technically called BA.2.86.

Ministers said they had made the decision to help reduce potential pressure over the as UK scientists continue to assess Pirola, described as a 'real deal' new Covid strain by experts.


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Office of National Statistics data released today shows there were 74 Covid deaths registered across the two countries in the week ending August 11. This was a 57 per cent rise on the 47 logged in the previous seven-day spell. But for comparison, this is just a fraction of January's toll, when cases soared to pandemic highs and deaths peaked at 654
Announcing the change in plan Health Minister Maria Caulfield said: 'As our world-leading scientists gather more information on the BA.2.86 variant, it makes sense to bring forward the vaccination programme.

'It is absolutely vital the most vulnerable groups receive a vaccine to strengthen their immunity over winter to protect themselves and reduce pressure on the NHS.

'I encourage anyone invited for a vaccination – including those yet to have their first jab – to come forward as soon as possible.'

Bringing the jab rollout forward was based on advice from the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) that speeding up the rollout would offer people greater protection from the becoming severely ill from virus.

This, the agency claimed, would have the added benefit of reducing pressure on the NHS.
Covid jab rollout brought forward over fears of Pirola variant
 

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When that last Covid virus hit, I had never in my life ever had the flu of any kind.

Since I turned 60, I have started to get the annual flu shot, just in case. I got my flu shot and a few weeks later I got the Covid shot when it was first out. A few weeks later I got Covid and a few weeks after that I got the flu. I went to the doctor both times to find out what I had, that's how I found out what was going on. I did not get real sick with either of these flu episodes. Tired, fever, aches, and a little diarrhea. But nothing really bad and only lasted 3-4 days.

So this year, I will get the flu shot and will not get the Covid shot...
 
This Covid, new flu variant will never end and I’m no longer sure getting a vaccine for every single variant is the answer to boosting up immunity.

This isn’t to say I’m an anti vaxxer
Except for last year, I hadn’t had the flu for at least ten years and never had a flu shot - just a Covid vaccine and booster. Shortly after, I got the worst flu of my life.
 
PeppermintPatty said:
This Covid, new flu variant will never end and I’m no longer sure getting a vaccine for every single variant is the answer to boosting up immunity.

This isn’t to say I’m an anti vaxxer
Except for last year, I hadn’t had the flu for at least ten years and never had a flu shot - just a Covid vaccine and booster. Shortly after, I got the worst flu of my life.
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So you got a bad flu AFTER the vax? I rarely catch the flu so I don't get a flu shot though other members of my family do. I'm doing okay with building a healthy immune system. This works for me.
 
chic said:
So you got a bad flu AFTER the vax? I rarely catch the flu so I don't get a flu shot though other members of my family do. I'm doing okay with building a healthy immune system. This works for me.
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Not right after. It may have been Covid fir all I know. It took about 2 to 3 weeks to recover and then I never quite sprang back. I ‘have never had the flu shoot either since it’ had been so long since I got it. Honestly I don’t know what to think. The idea of getting vaccinated for every variant that comes out seems a bit senseless especially if you are trying to build up natural immunity.

I remember a documentary stating that mankind has gotten so overly sterile that we’ve created super bugs, super bacteria, super viruses 🦠 and I can’t help but think that’s true. Then again, I’m not a scientist or biochemist etc.. etc.
 
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PeppermintPatty said:
Not right after. It may have been Covid fir all I know. It took about 2 to 3 weeks to recover and then I never quite sprang back. I ‘have never had the flu shoot either since it’ had been so long since I got it. Honestly I don’t know what to think. The idea of getting vaccinated for every variant that comes out seems a bit senseless especially if you are trying to build up natural immunity.

I remember a documentary stating that mankind has gotten so overly sterile that we’ve created super bugs, super bacteria, super viruses 🦠 and I can’t help but think that’s true. Then again, I’m not a scientist or biochemist etc.. etc.
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That's possible and there should be a study on it. We could all benefit from such knowledge,
 
Flu can be so hit and miss. Over 15 years ago I got a flu that lasted 45 hours. It was the worst case of anything I ever had. I had not had a flu shot. It was caught at work as a co-worker got it that I knew of and just very few others. How it hit few and avoided most, I don't know.

I could not believe how wiped out I felt. I could do nothing but lay in bed. Suddenly as fast as I had started feeling sick, I began to feel better. In an hour I felt ok again. Weak but ok. Improving every minute.

As far as shots go, since I still wear a mask at work, I'm going to avoid the flu shot and I don't want another covid, as I have mentioned.
 
Oh dear! My husband's nephew and the entire family came down with Covid. All three children attend Anthon Elementary and his wife teaches there. I hear that his wife is quite sick.
 
I understand that a ‘new’ vaccine is going to be ready in the fall. I already told my doctor to count me out. Is it a ‘new’ vaccine or is it the old vaccine being called a ‘new’ vaccine? The other issue is the cloth masks. The CDC has stated that the N95 is still the better way to go, but using a cloth mask is about as good as nothing.

If we have mandates for masks and vaccines this fall, everyone can count me out.
 
I'll wear a mask but I doubt I'll get the next vaccine, although my doctor will likely insist I do. I was treated for cancer two years ago and also had all of the requisite vaccinations against COVID and the flu. Then I got COVID and prior to that I developed blood clots in my lungs. There are validated reports in scientific journals about an association between the COVID vaccine and developing blood clots. So I'm truly on the fence about this one.
 
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Oh dear! My husband's nephew and the entire family came down with Covid. All three children attend Anthon Elementary and his wife teaches there. I hear that his wife is quite sick.
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It is the husband , wife and the oldest child. They gave us the wrong info. Haven't heard any more news but hopefully all are better.
 
Timewise 60+ said:
When that last Covid virus hit, I had never in my life ever had the flu of any kind.

Since I turned 60, I have started to get the annual flu shot, just in case. I got my flu shot and a few weeks later I got the Covid shot when it was first out. A few weeks later I got Covid and a few weeks after that I got the flu. I went to the doctor both times to find out what I had, that's how I found out what was going on. I did not get real sick with either of these flu episodes. Tired, fever, aches, and a little diarrhea. But nothing really bad and only lasted 3-4 days.

So this year, I will get the flu shot and will not get the Covid shot..y.
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yet!
 
We should remember that the Covid vaccines are a protection from the worse symptoms, it won't prevent you from getting Covid itself, it just minimizes the impact on us poor old people.

As for the mice.... people forget how miraculous the Covid Vaccine was. For example, it took 23 years to develop the Polio vaccine. They gave us Covid-19 in 12 months. It was developed and rolled out so quickly because people were dying (7m dead thus far) and it was a global pandemic. Local health services were getting overwhelmed, they were building hospital wards in car parks! Hospitals were running out of oxygen. It was against this background the Covid vaccine was developed and rolled out quickly.

Of course, we've since found that the vaccine was harmful to some people, there simply wasn't time for full testing in humans. There have been around 50,000 deaths globally that point toward the vaccine as a cause. This is tragic, of course. But Covid killed 7m, and those 50,000 are out of 5.5bn people vaccinated. It's a tiny percentage. Personally I've had three shots, all Pfizer.. I'll get the fourth too.

As for flu, we forget that Flu started as an epidemic. In 1918 it swept the world and killed 50m people! Today we're immune to the worst of it, because it stills makes us ill. However, I don't get the flu vaccine. Why? Well, my mother and father had it every year, and each and every time they got flu symptoms and felt unwell for a few days. Now, it's impossible to get the flu from the vaccine, but on the other hand, if you're going to get ill anyway... 650,000 people a year die of flu!
 
It's been reported today that a 6 month old Baby's eyes turned Royal Blue from Brown within 18 hours of being given the antiviral drug favipiravir


A six-month-old boy prescribed an antiviral drug to treat Covid had a bizarre reaction - his dark brown eyes turned a bright blue within 18 hours of therapy.

The unnamed infant from Thailand was given favipiravir, a treatment commonly used for influenza and Ebola, which is approved as a Covid treatment in parts of Asia - but not yet approved in the US.

Doctors in Bangkok who treated the infant said the antiviral drug released a fluorescent chemical that accumulated in the boy's corneas.

While the boy's eyes changed hue shortly after receiving the treatment, they returned to their natural color five days after medication cessation.

Actually they're reporting it as Blue, but in reality it's Violet.. and that's not a natural human eye colourant.. which is concerning IMO


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Read more here... Covid drug causes infant's dark-brown eyes to change color
 
Lilac said:
@hollydolly, I wonder if there will be any problems down the road for either the 6-month old or the young man from India with their eyes.
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well that's why I posted it Lilac.. because IMO anything that's capable of changing your eye colour from within, has got to surely have some ramifications.

Dismissing it as they have by saying their natural colour returned in 5 days.. is not acceptable.. they have to investigate this immediately and see what has caused it.. and how this can be safe to be injected in a body!
 
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well that's why I posted it Lilac.. because IMO anything that's capable of changing your eye colour from within, has got to surely have some ramifications.

Dismissing it as they have by saying their natural colour returned in 5 days.. is not acceptable.. they have to investigate this immediately and see what has caused it.. and how this can be safe to be injected in a body!
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I completely agree with you. If this treatment can do this to eyes, then that IMO gives more standing of the various problems being reported from people who have taken the vaccines. I know the treatment & the vaccine are two different things, but they are both newly developed & really haven't been tested as other things have been done in the past. I feel there will be more than just this to come out & reported in the time to come. But, the question is will it be reported on honestly if we even will be allowed to hear about it. I'm glad someone came forward with the information & it was put out.

This is the first time I have ever heard of a treatment changing the colors of a person's eyes. If it can change the eyes, what else can it do to someone's body? Very disconcerning to say the least.
 
The important thing to remember is that only anti viral medications will work on the SARS type viruses. If you have a weakened immune system, you may suffer more with a COVID virus than you would with a bacterial infection that can be fought with antibiotics.

I am suffering through my third time of having COVID. I was going to be given Remdesivir, but I am taking Prednisone, so I can’t take the two medications at the same time. I have to drink plenty of liquids, take Coricidin and chicken soup seems to help.

I e-mailed a doctor who I fully respected while in the Marines and he told me that once I get past this infection to start taking a supplement D-3 to help build my immune system. He recommends 2000IU per day.
 
Been There said:
I e-mailed a doctor who I fully respected while in the Marines and he told me that once I get past this infection to start taking a supplement D-3 to help build my immune system. He recommends 2000IU per day.
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My orthopaedic doctor told me to start taking D3 at that same dosage after being treated for pain from a car accident 5 years ago after he did a blood work up on me. It was to help keep my bone health up. I didn't realize it could have more benefits than just bone health. Thanks for that info.
 
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My orthopaedic doctor told me to start taking D3 at that same dosage after being treated for pain from a car accident 5 years ago after he did a blood work up on me. It was to help keep my bone health up. I didn't realize it could have more benefits than just bone health. Thanks for that info.
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Like everything else when someone gives me a recommendation for a supplement, I looked up what D3 could do for me and according to the data, it does help to build the immune system as well as strengthen the bone structure. I will start taking it next Monday. I think by then, my Covid should be gone.
 

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