Lewkat
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Anyone notice what a bunch of cowards Hamas are? They kidnap women and children and are now threatening to publicly executed them. Yeah, real brave guys. NOT!
Israel Has Declared War after Unprecedented Hamas Attack
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I stand with Israel. I always have.
As we've seen before there will be many hard days ahead. A small democracy surrounded by terrorists and countries which sponsor terrorism must do what it must do to survive. Israel will need its friends.
There was peace just last week. The world knows who the terrorists are who broke that peace in the most depraved ways possible and they know which country and countries harbor them. Excusing them for whatever reason is a shameful thing to do.
As we've seen before there will be many hard days ahead. A small democracy surrounded by terrorists and countries which sponsor terrorism must do what it must do to survive. Israel will need its friends.
There was peace just last week. The world knows who the terrorists are who broke that peace in the most depraved ways possible and they know which country and countries harbor them. Excusing them for whatever reason is a shameful thing to do.
Lilac
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When you are attacked, either as a person or a nation, you meet force with greater force, violence with greater violence. You fight to survive & win. You fight to protect the innocent & those who are unable to fight for themselves. There is no choice in this matter.
All terroristic thugs must be shown there will be consequences for their actions & it will not be tolerated or accepted. Actions like these must be stood up to & made completely known that future actions will not go unchecked.
If someone believes begging, pleading or even ignoring will make the evil go away & leave them alone, they are wrong & are deluding themselves.
There is no excuse for evil violence. There is also no excuse for telling those who have been attacked to stand down & not defend themselves.
As long as this goes on, I will stand with Israel.
All terroristic thugs must be shown there will be consequences for their actions & it will not be tolerated or accepted. Actions like these must be stood up to & made completely known that future actions will not go unchecked.
If someone believes begging, pleading or even ignoring will make the evil go away & leave them alone, they are wrong & are deluding themselves.
There is no excuse for evil violence. There is also no excuse for telling those who have been attacked to stand down & not defend themselves.
As long as this goes on, I will stand with Israel.
Rose65
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No! Please God no.
A new report from a community in Israel:
Press were invited on Tuesday to survey the scene of devastation in Kfar Aza, the community massacred by Hamas terrorist infiltrators, as the IDF continues to remove bodies of victims from the homes where they were murdered.
For the first time the Israeli army let media channels into one of the massacred communities, in this case Kibbutz Kfar Aza, where plumes of smoke can be seen rising in the Gaza Strip, which lies less than a quarter of a mile away.
The community’s cars, parked outside, were completely torched. And it was just a small part of the destruction, with no exact number yet of how many people were murdered, as bodies are still being collected and removed from the homes.
The smell of death — that’s what’s left of a once vibrant community. Now, the foreign press were invited to witness the inhumane crimes, much like the Allies had done after they had won the second World War and liberated the Holocaust concentration camps. Upwards of 70 armed terrorists invaded the community, their bodies are still lying on the ground for the whole world to see the cruelty these Hamas terrorists committed.
“It’s not a war, it’s not a battlefield. You see the babies, the mother, the father, in their bedrooms, in their protection rooms, and how the terrorists killed them,” IDF Major General Itai Veruv first described the scene. “It’s a massacre.”
'It smells of death here': Surveying the scenes of atrocities in Kfar Aza - I24NEWS
There is more text plus photos and a couple of videos at the link.
The comment about protection rooms is interesting. Many in Israel have to have safe rooms in their houses to retreat to because of their proximity to terrorist countries.
'It smells of death here': Surveying the atrocities committed by Hamas in Kfar Aza
Soldiers encounter unimaginable horrors as they remove the bodies of victims, including about 40 babies and small children — some with their heads chopped offPress were invited on Tuesday to survey the scene of devastation in Kfar Aza, the community massacred by Hamas terrorist infiltrators, as the IDF continues to remove bodies of victims from the homes where they were murdered.
For the first time the Israeli army let media channels into one of the massacred communities, in this case Kibbutz Kfar Aza, where plumes of smoke can be seen rising in the Gaza Strip, which lies less than a quarter of a mile away.
The community’s cars, parked outside, were completely torched. And it was just a small part of the destruction, with no exact number yet of how many people were murdered, as bodies are still being collected and removed from the homes.
The smell of death — that’s what’s left of a once vibrant community. Now, the foreign press were invited to witness the inhumane crimes, much like the Allies had done after they had won the second World War and liberated the Holocaust concentration camps. Upwards of 70 armed terrorists invaded the community, their bodies are still lying on the ground for the whole world to see the cruelty these Hamas terrorists committed.
“It’s not a war, it’s not a battlefield. You see the babies, the mother, the father, in their bedrooms, in their protection rooms, and how the terrorists killed them,” IDF Major General Itai Veruv first described the scene. “It’s a massacre.”
'It smells of death here': Surveying the scenes of atrocities in Kfar Aza - I24NEWS
There is more text plus photos and a couple of videos at the link.
The comment about protection rooms is interesting. Many in Israel have to have safe rooms in their houses to retreat to because of their proximity to terrorist countries.
Devi
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The Israelis have to do what they have to do. This is survival for them. The Muslims won't stop until they're stopped.
The scale, calculation and depravity is something usually found among serial killers. Something like 22 different sites hit. This obviously was a cold calculated attack/extermination. It takes training and brain washing. My guess even with all the grooming/brainwashing Hamas leadership hand picked or made sure those actually chosen for this attack were not only loyal but sociopathic psychos.
Jules
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This was an extraordinarily vicious and well-planned, intricate attack. It didn’t feel like your average soldier leading the attacks.
jimintoronto
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In case anyone missed it....EVERYONE of those groups has either Muslim or Islamic in their title or is associated to a country that is Muslim controlled. Time for the USA to wake up to the fact that there are groups in the USA that support terrorist groups, and terrorist acts. Read that list again.
JimB.
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Hamas terrorists massacred at least 40 babies and young children before beheading some of them and gunning down their families in a small kibbutz in Israel, horrified Israeli soldiers have revealed.
Some 70 Hamas terrorists wielding guns and grenades stormed the usually quiet Kfar Aza kibbutz in southern Israel, killing anyone - men, women and children - they saw.
The bullet-riddled bodies of Israeli residents now lay in the grounds of the kibbutz among burned out houses, strewn furniture and torched cars. Solemn Israeli soldiers today went from house to house to take away the scores of people massacred there.
Outside the destroyed homes, the soldiers told i24News correspondent Nicole Zedek how they saw the bodies of babies next to their cots, their heads chopped off, in a sign of the depraved acts committed by the terrorists since they attacked Israel on Saturday.
As many as 40 babies and small children were killed, the soldiers told i24News. Harrowing images from the scene show a baby's cot covered with blood, her small bloodied dress lying next to it.
The Israeli soldiers were seen comforting each other after witnessing such horrors, including the bodies of entire families who were gunned down in their beds.
'You see the babies, the mothers, the fathers, in their bedrooms, in their protection rooms and how the terrorist kills them. It's not a war, it's not a battlefield. It's a massacre, it's a terror activity,' said Israeli Major General Itai Veruv from the horrific scene.
Hamas terrorists 'beheaded babies during kibbutz slaughter'
Some 70 Hamas terrorists wielding guns and grenades stormed the usually quiet Kfar Aza kibbutz in southern Israel, killing anyone - men, women and children - they saw.
The bullet-riddled bodies of Israeli residents now lay in the grounds of the kibbutz among burned out houses, strewn furniture and torched cars. Solemn Israeli soldiers today went from house to house to take away the scores of people massacred there.
Outside the destroyed homes, the soldiers told i24News correspondent Nicole Zedek how they saw the bodies of babies next to their cots, their heads chopped off, in a sign of the depraved acts committed by the terrorists since they attacked Israel on Saturday.
As many as 40 babies and small children were killed, the soldiers told i24News. Harrowing images from the scene show a baby's cot covered with blood, her small bloodied dress lying next to it.
The Israeli soldiers were seen comforting each other after witnessing such horrors, including the bodies of entire families who were gunned down in their beds.
'You see the babies, the mothers, the fathers, in their bedrooms, in their protection rooms and how the terrorist kills them. It's not a war, it's not a battlefield. It's a massacre, it's a terror activity,' said Israeli Major General Itai Veruv from the horrific scene.
Hamas terrorists 'beheaded babies during kibbutz slaughter'
hollydolly
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An Israeli woman has gut-wrenchingly described how she dramatically escaped from the clutches of her Hamas hostage takers along with her neighbor's children after they had been taken into Gaza, along with the kids' mother.
Avital Aladjem told Channel 12 in a heartbreaking interview that although she was able to escape with the children, their mother remains in captivity at the hands of Hamas terrorists.
Aladjem said that in the midst of the brutal assault on Saturday, she hid in her home in Kibbutz Holit, a little over a mile from Gaza. From her hiding place, she was texting her neighbor, Adi Vital-Kaploun, a Canadian citizen.
When Aladjem's home was stormed by gunmen, another neighbor who was with her was shot and killed. Aladjem said that she survived because her neighbor 'absorbed' all of the bullets.
The woman said that she was dragged from her home where she joined Kaploun's two children Eshel, four months, and Negev, 4. The terrorists marched the trio to Gaza, the children's mother was nowhere to be seen.
Adi Vital-Kaploun, a Canadian citizen, remains missing in the aftermath of Hamas' brutal attack
Avital Aladjem told Channel 12 in a heartbreaking interview that although she was able to escape with the children, their mother remains in captivity at the hands of Hamas terrorists.
Aladjem said that in the midst of the brutal assault on Saturday, she hid in her home in Kibbutz Holit, a little over a mile from Gaza. From her hiding place, she was texting her neighbor, Adi Vital-Kaploun, a Canadian citizen.
When Aladjem's home was stormed by gunmen, another neighbor who was with her was shot and killed. Aladjem said that she survived because her neighbor 'absorbed' all of the bullets.
The woman said that she was dragged from her home where she joined Kaploun's two children Eshel, four months, and Negev, 4. The terrorists marched the trio to Gaza, the children's mother was nowhere to be seen.
hollydolly
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Two Hamas terrorists were killed in a high-speed chase down an Israeli highway after a police officer shot them with a pistol while firing his pistol.
Israeli authorities released a video of the incident, which is understood to have taken place on Highway 25, just north of the city of Nevitot, which lies just five miles from the border with Gaza.
Headcam footage, which appears to shows that the chase was heading towards Israel's border with Gaza, shows the motorcycle-riding officer taking out his service weapon and firing upon a gray car with its boot open.
After the marksman fires his weapon three times, the car is seen slowing down and turning to the rightly slightly, before coming to a full stop.
Two more officers can be seen getting out of a police car and rapidly firing upon the vehicle.
Click here if you wish to view the killings.. believe me they don't hold back...
Two Hamas terrorists killed in high-speed shoot-out caught on camera
Israeli authorities released a video of the incident, which is understood to have taken place on Highway 25, just north of the city of Nevitot, which lies just five miles from the border with Gaza.
Headcam footage, which appears to shows that the chase was heading towards Israel's border with Gaza, shows the motorcycle-riding officer taking out his service weapon and firing upon a gray car with its boot open.
After the marksman fires his weapon three times, the car is seen slowing down and turning to the rightly slightly, before coming to a full stop.
Two more officers can be seen getting out of a police car and rapidly firing upon the vehicle.
Click here if you wish to view the killings.. believe me they don't hold back...
Two Hamas terrorists killed in high-speed shoot-out caught on camera
Devi
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I've been reading the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) page over at X (Twitter). Here's the link — Matrix, if this isn't okay, please just delete this.
Israel Defense Forces
https://twitter.com/IDF
Murrmurr
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Murrmurr
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The US is aware. Even people who openly support terrorism, including new citizens, are protected by the US Constitution until it's proven beyond reasonable doubt that they criminally violated the law or incited others to violate the law. And, as you can imagine, it's extremely difficult to prove beyond doubt that someone incited others to violate the law.
Devi
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Here's a video on Rumble where a granddaughter is explaining how the Hamas murdered her grandmother, videoed the murder on her phone, and uploaded the video to the Grandmother's Facebook account.
Family Learned of Grandmother's Murder When Hamas Animals Used Her Phone to Post to Facebook
Family Learned of Grandmother's Murder When Hamas Animals Used Her Phone to Post to Facebook
Devi
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Here's video of various Hamas persons calling for the genocidal annihilation of the Jews (it's translated):
hollydolly
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On Tuesday, in reports that truly defied belief, we heard that Hamas has beheaded babies.
A horrified i24NEWS journalist Nicole Zedeck told cameras near the Gaza Strip: 'I'm talking to some of the [Israeli] soldiers and they say what they've witnessed as they've been walking through these different houses... babies — their heads cut off. Families completely gunned down in their beds. This is nothing that anyone could ever have imagined.'
How is it that Hamas has defenders? How does barbarism have any place in our modern age? How could those who think the ‘Palestinian cause’ righteous ever defend this unprovoked carnage?
A post-Holocaust world that vowed ‘never again’ has, this weekend, witnessed Jews ripped from the safety of their homes and places of business.
Hamas is now threatening to execute one hostage for every strike by Israel that comes without warning — executions they vow to film and release.
Who among us hasn’t heard the pleas of mothers, fathers, siblings, husbands and wives, begging for the safe return of their loved ones and felt their abject fear?
I think especially of the women and girls of Israel, going about their day as we might in the West, and try to conjure the surreality of being snatched by armed militants, beaten and stripped and made to walk through the streets while men spit and jeer, subjected to atrocities too obscene to print.
This is ISIS-level terror, moving from hard targets — planes, buildings, stadiums, subways — to a mass extinction event, innocent civilians picked off one-by-one.
The horrors accrue: A young Israeli couple managed to stash their 10-month-old twins in a hidden shelter before terrorists broke down their door and shot them to death, the babies miraculously surviving.
Blood-curdling video of a terrified, weeping Shiri Silberman-Bibas and her babies — one aged 3, the other nine-months — being taken hostage at gunpoint.
The testimony of Gaya Kalderon, a 21-year-old student living in Tel Aviv, who told reporters that her entire family was abducted from Nir Oz in southern Israel.
‘I was terrified to wake up Saturday morning and receive messages like, “The terrorists are in my bedroom”, she said. ‘Now I can’t do anything.’
Her 16-year-old sister, father and 10-year-old brother were all taken.
How is it that Hamas has defenders? How does barbarism have any place in our modern age? A post-Holocaust world that vowed ‘never again’ has, this weekend, witnessed Jews ripped from the safety of their homes and places of business.
MAUREEN CALLAHAN: How in hell could anyone defend these monsters?
A horrified i24NEWS journalist Nicole Zedeck told cameras near the Gaza Strip: 'I'm talking to some of the [Israeli] soldiers and they say what they've witnessed as they've been walking through these different houses... babies — their heads cut off. Families completely gunned down in their beds. This is nothing that anyone could ever have imagined.'
How is it that Hamas has defenders? How does barbarism have any place in our modern age? How could those who think the ‘Palestinian cause’ righteous ever defend this unprovoked carnage?
A post-Holocaust world that vowed ‘never again’ has, this weekend, witnessed Jews ripped from the safety of their homes and places of business.
Hamas is now threatening to execute one hostage for every strike by Israel that comes without warning — executions they vow to film and release.
Who among us hasn’t heard the pleas of mothers, fathers, siblings, husbands and wives, begging for the safe return of their loved ones and felt their abject fear?
I think especially of the women and girls of Israel, going about their day as we might in the West, and try to conjure the surreality of being snatched by armed militants, beaten and stripped and made to walk through the streets while men spit and jeer, subjected to atrocities too obscene to print.
This is ISIS-level terror, moving from hard targets — planes, buildings, stadiums, subways — to a mass extinction event, innocent civilians picked off one-by-one.
The horrors accrue: A young Israeli couple managed to stash their 10-month-old twins in a hidden shelter before terrorists broke down their door and shot them to death, the babies miraculously surviving.
Blood-curdling video of a terrified, weeping Shiri Silberman-Bibas and her babies — one aged 3, the other nine-months — being taken hostage at gunpoint.
The testimony of Gaya Kalderon, a 21-year-old student living in Tel Aviv, who told reporters that her entire family was abducted from Nir Oz in southern Israel.
‘I was terrified to wake up Saturday morning and receive messages like, “The terrorists are in my bedroom”, she said. ‘Now I can’t do anything.’
Her 16-year-old sister, father and 10-year-old brother were all taken.
How is it that Hamas has defenders? How does barbarism have any place in our modern age? A post-Holocaust world that vowed ‘never again’ has, this weekend, witnessed Jews ripped from the safety of their homes and places of business.
MAUREEN CALLAHAN: How in hell could anyone defend these monsters?
hollydolly
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''Kill all the jews... kill all the Zionists...kill All the Americans and their Supporters''....^^^^
I swear my blood has just reached boiling point..I'm enraged to the point where I want to go and kill these monsters with my own bare hands
jimintoronto
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Perhaps those who are in the US on student visas could have them revoked, or not extended ? That measure is being discussed here in Canada by our Federal Government. JimB.
hollydolly
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A Palestinian Doctor working in the NHS at a Liverpool Hospital who mocked terrified Israelis fleeing Hamas gunmen is today facing calls to be suspended over her 'repugnant' comments.
In a recent turn of events, NHS medic Dr. Mennah Elwan has attracted criticism for a series of contentious social media posts where she allegedly mocked Israeli festival goers and expressed support for Hamas attacks. The neurology registrar, employed with the Walton Centre, claimed that there are no civilians in Israel and questioned the behavior of individuals fleeing the attacks, further intensifying the controversy.
Both the British Medical Association (BMA) and the Walton Centre have distanced themselves from Dr. Elwan’s comments. They released statements emphasizing that her views do not align with their values. The General Medical Council (GMC) has also been alerted and will be conducting an investigation into the matter.
The source added that the views posted by the medic — who appeared at a British Medical Association (BMA) rally on NHS pay this month — posed 'serious questions' about how the union is run.
It comes after a wave of protests about the escalating conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Clashes also occurred last night between pro-Palestinian and Israel supporters in High Street Kensington, as police desperately tried to keep the peace.
A spokesman for the Campaign Against Antisemitism charity told this website there was no place in the NHS for comments like those made by Dr Elwan.
'These despicable comments demonstrate, at a minimum, a lack of empathy unworthy of an employee of the NHS, and we shall be submitting a complaint to her regulator,' they said.
'But, at worst, rhetoric such as this fuels anti-Semitism in the UK, and we will also be exploring legal options. '
They added that such attitudes could make Jewish patients and staff feel unsafe in the NHS.
While Dr. Elwan’s comments have sparked outrage, they come at a time when several demonstrations in support of Palestine and Hamas have taken place in various UK cities. These demonstrations signify a growing support for Palestine in the UK, which, however, does not justify or validate the endorsement of violence or attacks against civilians.
In a recent turn of events, NHS medic Dr. Mennah Elwan has attracted criticism for a series of contentious social media posts where she allegedly mocked Israeli festival goers and expressed support for Hamas attacks. The neurology registrar, employed with the Walton Centre, claimed that there are no civilians in Israel and questioned the behavior of individuals fleeing the attacks, further intensifying the controversy.
Medical Bodies Distance Themselves
Both the British Medical Association (BMA) and the Walton Centre have distanced themselves from Dr. Elwan’s comments. They released statements emphasizing that her views do not align with their values. The General Medical Council (GMC) has also been alerted and will be conducting an investigation into the matter.
The source added that the views posted by the medic — who appeared at a British Medical Association (BMA) rally on NHS pay this month — posed 'serious questions' about how the union is run.
It comes after a wave of protests about the escalating conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Clashes also occurred last night between pro-Palestinian and Israel supporters in High Street Kensington, as police desperately tried to keep the peace.
A spokesman for the Campaign Against Antisemitism charity told this website there was no place in the NHS for comments like those made by Dr Elwan.
'These despicable comments demonstrate, at a minimum, a lack of empathy unworthy of an employee of the NHS, and we shall be submitting a complaint to her regulator,' they said.
'But, at worst, rhetoric such as this fuels anti-Semitism in the UK, and we will also be exploring legal options. '
They added that such attitudes could make Jewish patients and staff feel unsafe in the NHS.
Support for Palestine and Hamas in the UK
While Dr. Elwan’s comments have sparked outrage, they come at a time when several demonstrations in support of Palestine and Hamas have taken place in various UK cities. These demonstrations signify a growing support for Palestine in the UK, which, however, does not justify or validate the endorsement of violence or attacks against civilians.
JB in SC
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Jim,
I seldom post but if they’re so all fired up defending Hamas why aren’t they in Gaza? Citizens or not they need to go there and put their lives on the line if it’s so important. Let’s face it Gaza is only important to Iran as a staging area for proxy terrorists. Ever wonder why the Saudi’s and Jordanians don’t want them?
Murrmurr
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Yeah, for example, that was done when COVID broke out. Some Chinese diplomats, and Chinese students and their parents visas weren't renewed for a while, but specific criteria has to be met for permanent revocation. Another example; the US began the process to revoke the visas of some family members of the Boston Marathon bombers, but I don't know how far the courts got with that.
And after a person becomes a citizen, their US citizenship has to be revoked before they can be deported, and both of those processes are long and complex. Of course, they can just be charged, tried, and then sentenced to a US prison. That only takes a year or two. But, further complicating things, some of the "home countries" in these situations can fight for deportation rather than see their former citizen spending the rest of his/her life in a US prison. That can tie up the courts for decades.
Murrmurr
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Because one of their goals is to "infiltrate" the West; to have some influence here.
Murrmurr
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Flights to Israel have been cancelled and are prohibited, but Israelis can travel to the US. Gaza borders are closed, so no one can travel in or out of Gaza.
Flights to Israel have been cancelled and are prohibited, but Israelis can travel to the US. Gaza borders are closed, so no one can travel in or out of Gaza.
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