Israel Has Declared War after Unprecedented Hamas Attack

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Naturally said:
Mum and Dad say Hate Boy is a Gloomy Gus? Well, there ya go! It's OK now. Increase his meds and release him. As a matter of fact, I'll bet that the Palestinian terrorists suffer from the same condition. Let's start a campaign: Prozac for Palestine. There. Problem solved.
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Ha Ha. Prozac for Palestine might help. I just saw on TV the President here is rolling out a program to keep the rest of us from being Islamophobic. But nothing to keep the Islamists from being infidelophobic.
 
AnnieA said:
That's a pretty steep challenge given that "Allahu Akbar" is shouted as terrorists rape and kill.
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The fear of being called Islamophobic has worked fairly well. Muslims have been exalted and promoted ever since a group of them killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11/2001. The strange thing is, the military will fight them overseas, but here at home a large number of civilians think they can do no wrong. ???
 
All the protesters, agitators, vandals and thugs on college campuses and elsewhere are accosting, confronting and condemning Jewish people they don't even know and who are just going about their day, for something that's happening thousands of miles away. Yet we are repeatedly told we are not supposed to judge Muslims because of what terrorists do. Talk about hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do.

Insert any other religion or ethnicity in place of Jew and that would be a hate crime. The perpetrators don't care though and are horribly offended if anyone says anything about it. Oh, and if they attack you, it was YOUR fault. They've figured out how to be (worthless) victims no matter what.
 
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Murrmurr said:
Unless by "prevent the expansion of the war" they mean prevent the US and other allies from helping Israel militarily.

And I suspect that's exactly what they mean. Iran has been supplying Hamas with missiles, according to Israeli and US intelligence.
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From the tone of the article it sounded like after looking at Gaza and the U.S. destroyers sitting off the coast of Israel, they thought it best not to do anything themselves to cause Israel to declare war on them. But I’m sure their channeling of support to Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad will continue. They're all Islamic entities.
 
Just in case you still have any sympathy for any Hamas/Palestinian, here's what one of their leaders had to say>

We'll do 10/7 time and again

HAMAD: Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation, and it it must be finished. We are not ashamed to say this, with full force. … [cut]

… We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again. The Al-Aqsa Flood is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, and the capabilities to fight. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.
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HAMAD: The occupation must come to an end.

Q: Occupation where? In the Gaza Strip?

HAMAD: No, I am talking about all the Palestinian lands.

Q: Does that mean the annihilation of Israel?

HAMAD: Yes, of course. [cut] … The existence of Israel is illogical. The existence of Israel is what causes all that pain, blood, and tears. It is Israel, not us. We are victims of the occupation. Period. Therefore, nobody should blame us for the things we do. On October 7, October 10, October 1,000,000 — everything we do is justified.
 
TabbyAnn said:
From the tone of the article it sounded like after looking at Gaza and the U.S. destroyers sitting off the coast of Israel, they thought it best not to do anything themselves to cause Israel to declare war on them. But I’m sure their channeling of support to Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad will continue. They're all Islamic entities.
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At the very least, leaders in the Middle-East hate western influence over there.
 
Buckeye said:
Just in case you still have any sympathy for any Hamas/Palestinian, here's what one of their leaders had to say>

We'll do 10/7 time and again

HAMAD: Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation, and it it must be finished. We are not ashamed to say this, with full force. … [cut]

… We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again. The Al-Aqsa Flood is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, and the capabilities to fight. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.
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HAMAD: The occupation must come to an end.

Q: Occupation where? In the Gaza Strip?

HAMAD: No, I am talking about all the Palestinian lands.

Q: Does that mean the annihilation of Israel?

HAMAD: Yes, of course. [cut] … The existence of Israel is illogical. The existence of Israel is what causes all that pain, blood, and tears. It is Israel, not us. We are victims of the occupation. Period. Therefore, nobody should blame us for the things we do. On October 7, October 10, October 1,000,000 — everything we do is justified.
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No one over there gave a fig for "the Palestinian lands" until Israel really began to flourish economically, socially, and culturally.
 
Since Palestinian people do not care for the lives of Israeli, even all Jewish children, why should *I* care about theirs?

Because I evolved and they did not. They make it awfully hard, however. I think they devolved.
 
Pepper said:
Since Palestinian people do not care for the lives of Israeli, even all Jewish children, why should *I* care about theirs?

Because I evolved and they did not. They make it awfully hard, however. I think they devolved.
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Sad thing is, after Israel & Friends eliminate Hamas, Gaza will fall under similar leadership. An even worse one, probly.

Know what that means? An occupation is in order.
 
An Israeli first responder to the October 7 terror attack has claimed that Hamas terrorists roasted a baby in an oven in shocking video testimony.

Asher Moskowitz, of the United Hatzalah first responder group, published a video of himself speaking to a camera, delivering his witness account.

In it, he claims he saw the remains of a baby who had been baked to death in an oven at kibbutz Kfar Aza, where more than 100 civilians were killed.

'The sights that we saw were horrendous,' he says, explaining that he was among a group that saw corpses arriving for identification in the aftermath of the attack.

'My name is Asher Moskowitz, UH333, deputy head of the Elad branch and an active member of our holy work of saving lives,' he says, introducing himself. He is shown with his back to a door, wearing a yellow high-vis police vest.
On the fourth day of the war, I visited the Shura base. I came to ensure the medical care of the families who were told to get information about the fate of their loved ones and were given a place outside the base to wait.'

He then says that during the day, his group were told five or six trucks with many bodies from Kfar Aza were due to arrive 'that were unfortunately horribly disfigured with severe injuries, including people who were burned alive.'

He continues: 'We went to the base to lend a hand and help.

'I, as a volunteer member of the Achi, which is the Zaka branch of the police, came with a few friends and we assisted and carried dozens of bodies from the trucks to the identification rooms inside the base.

'The sights that we saw were horrendous. We saw dozens of scorched bodies so severe that the coroners said it would be difficult to identify them, and luckily they had DNA samples to use for identification.

'As we continued our work, to our great chagrin, we also carried off the rucks small bags with body parts, really small bags.
Hamas killers 'roasted babies in an oven'
 
hollydolly said:
An Israeli first responder to the October 7 terror attack has claimed that Hamas terrorists roasted a baby in an oven in shocking video testimony.

Asher Moskowitz, of the United Hatzalah first responder group, published a video of himself speaking to a camera, delivering his witness account.

In it, he claims he saw the remains of a baby who had been baked to death in an oven at kibbutz Kfar Aza, where more than 100 civilians were killed.

'The sights that we saw were horrendous,' he says, explaining that he was among a group that saw corpses arriving for identification in the aftermath of the attack.

'My name is Asher Moskowitz, UH333, deputy head of the Elad branch and an active member of our holy work of saving lives,' he says, introducing himself. He is shown with his back to a door, wearing a yellow high-vis police vest.
On the fourth day of the war, I visited the Shura base. I came to ensure the medical care of the families who were told to get information about the fate of their loved ones and were given a place outside the base to wait.'

He then says that during the day, his group were told five or six trucks with many bodies from Kfar Aza were due to arrive 'that were unfortunately horribly disfigured with severe injuries, including people who were burned alive.'

He continues: 'We went to the base to lend a hand and help.

'I, as a volunteer member of the Achi, which is the Zaka branch of the police, came with a few friends and we assisted and carried dozens of bodies from the trucks to the identification rooms inside the base.

'The sights that we saw were horrendous. We saw dozens of scorched bodies so severe that the coroners said it would be difficult to identify them, and luckily they had DNA samples to use for identification.

'As we continued our work, to our great chagrin, we also carried off the rucks small bags with body parts, really small bags.
Hamas killers 'roasted babies in an oven'
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I'm done reading this thread. This is the final horror, I can't take anymore.
 
RadishRose said:
I'm done reading this thread. This is the final horror, I can't take anymore.
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It is indeed a horror, but if one is going to choose to read anything to do with war or terror attacks one has to be prepared to read horrible deeds, if not and or war is too upsetting then it's best never to read anything about it..

..for me it's important to know exactly what the world is up against
 
hollydolly said:
It is indeed a horror, but if one is going to choose to read anything to do with war or terror attacks one has to be prepared to read horrible deeds, if not and or war is too upsetting then it's best never to read anything about it..

..for me it's important to know exactly what the world is up against
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Yep, I was not prepared for this. I guess I don't handle certain things well, so I will scale back on the war info.
 
Spokesman John Kirby (retired Navy Admiral) claims there's "No indication, none, that Hamas has gotten their hands on any of the humanitarian assistance that has gone in" to Gaza.

I’m guessing John Kirby missed the memo that Hamas controls everything in Gaza.

And it doesn't make one bit of difference if Hamas doesn't get their hands on the aide money. If we're sending millions of dollars in "humanitarian aid", then Hamas doesn't have to spend THEIR money on food or medical care for the people of Gaza. Instead, it frees up all of their money so they can buy more rockets & arms. The concept is so simple that even a retired Admiral should be able to understand it. You’d think.

Antony Blinken testified before Congress on Tuesday that Hamas is refusing to share its fuel with hospitals in Gaza.

I hear loud calls going out for a pause. Yeah, great idea !!! This isn't going nearly as well as the Muslim terrorist supporters were hoping it would, so we should call a cease fire. Oh, excuse me … a "pause." That way they can get their poop together & come back another time and try again to exterminate the Jews.

Oh, and while we pause, lets also fight the scourge of Islamophobia. Is anyone stupid enough to buy this crap ?? Islamic terrorists in the region and Hamas supporters at home want to exterminate Jews but it’s important that our priority should be to fight Islamophobia ?? Of course not. Sounds like a goal of protecting the people who are most likely to commit a terrorist attack in this country. Aiding and abetting the enemy. They used to have a word for that.

But I guess war should be a fair fight dontchaknow. Kind of like a boxing match. Each side should go to their corners for a minute and then get back at it. Thing is though, I don't recall hearing any instances of Hamas pausing on 7 Oct.

Also, someone please remind me, when was there a loud clear call for a pause in Ukraine ?? … Bueller, Bueller

Bottom line is Islamic terrorists and their supporters want the ability to attack Israel and Jews with impunity ... there or here, anything less is unacceptable. How on earth can anyone support that, much less college students who have for decades carried the torch against violence, bullying, racism, etc. Thanks not, for finally showing your true colors liberal “education”.
 
I saw a news report that said that there was a 25% increase in anti-Semetic hate crimes over the last year before the Hamas Oct 7th attack on Israel took place. I wondered why that is. :unsure: I think such things are heinous and unconscionable...not matter who they are against. I feel so bad for the Jewish college students who are afraid to go about their daily lives. No one should have to feel that way.

Make no mistake...Muslim students will face threats too. Being a woman, a Black woman, a Muslim woman, the mother of a Black son and grandmother to Black grandsons (Black men tend to be profiled more often) and someone who has LGBT+ friends, I am no stranger to the awareness of the proliferation of hate crimes in this country.
 
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Naturally said:
Spokesman John Kirby (retired Navy Admiral) claims there's "No indication, none, that Hamas has gotten their hands on any of the humanitarian assistance that has gone in" to Gaza.

I’m guessing John Kirby missed the memo that Hamas controls everything in Gaza.

And it doesn't make one bit of difference if Hamas doesn't get their hands on the aide money. If we're sending millions of dollars in "humanitarian aid", then Hamas doesn't have to spend THEIR money on food or medical care for the people of Gaza. Instead, it frees up all of their money so they can buy more rockets & arms. The concept is so simple that even a retired Admiral should be able to understand it. You’d think.

Antony Blinken testified before Congress on Tuesday that Hamas is refusing to share its fuel with hospitals in Gaza.

I hear loud calls going out for a pause. Yeah, great idea !!! This isn't going nearly as well as the Muslim terrorist supporters were hoping it would, so we should call a cease fire. Oh, excuse me … a "pause." That way they can get their poop together & come back another time and try again to exterminate the Jews.

Oh, and while we pause, lets also fight the scourge of Islamophobia. Is anyone stupid enough to buy this crap ?? Islamic terrorists in the region and Hamas supporters at home want to exterminate Jews but it’s important that our priority should be to fight Islamophobia ?? Of course not. Sounds like a goal of protecting the people who are most likely to commit a terrorist attack in this country. Aiding and abetting the enemy. They used to have a word for that.

But I guess war should be a fair fight dontchaknow. Kind of like a boxing match. Each side should go to their corners for a minute and then get back at it. Thing is though, I don't recall hearing any instances of Hamas pausing on 7 Oct.

Also, someone please remind me, when was there a loud clear call for a pause in Ukraine ?? … Bueller, Bueller

Bottom line is Islamic terrorists and their supporters want the ability to attack Israel and Jews with impunity ... there or here, anything less is unacceptable. How on earth can anyone support that, much less college students who have for decades carried the torch against violence, bullying, racism, etc. Thanks not, for finally showing your true colors liberal “education”.
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You are so right in everything you said. The loudest microphone in the land. I knew support would not last.
 
Pepper said:
But so far they haven't, in fact they've been among the tormentors. I see enough hajabs within these groups to make that statement. America, Land of the Free.
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Plenty of hate and violence against Jewish people, Muslims, Black Americans, Hispanics, gays, etc. Many people are for the Palestinian people but ANTI-HAMAS. Many are for the Israeli people and anti-Netanyahu and his extreme government. I guess this is an isolated incident?

A 6-year-old Palestinian-American was stabbed 26 times for being Muslim, police say. His mom couldn’t go to his funeral because she was stabbed, too​

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/us/chicago-muslim-boy-stabbing-investigation/index.html
 
The anti-Israel protests at the Ivy League universities has really bothered me. By reading around a lot of political sites I get the feeling that everyone just realized that something awful has grown. As Diva mentioned anti-Semetic hate crimes have been on the rise for awhile, I think longer than just one year.

There have been some horrible attacks on synagogues but there have been many less dramatic attacks on individual Jews.

None of us remember this but we should have learned about Hitler's youth in history class. When I see our students in huge numbers blocking the roads, blocking bridges, I think of 1939. Something very ugly is growing around the world. It's not just here. France clamped down on it right away. Why aren't we at least hearing more against this anti-Semetic movement in the universities from our elected leadership now?

How the Hitler Youth Turned a Generation of Kids Into Nazis​

The Hitler Youth (Hitlerjugend, or HJ) was the Nazi-organized youth movement. It was made up of different sections for boys and girls. The boys’ branch was simply called the Hitler Youth. The girls’ branch was called the League of German Girls (Bund Deutscher Mädel, BDM).

When the Nazis came to power in January 1933, the Hitler Youth movement had approximately 100,000 members. By the end of the same year, membership had increased to more than 2 million (30% of German youth ages 10-18). In the following years, the Nazi regime encouraged and pressured young people to join the Hitler Youth organizations. Enthusiasm, peer pressure, and coercion led to a significant increase in membership. By 1937, membership in the Hitler Youth grew to 5.4 million (65% of youth ages 10-18). By 1940 the number was 7.2 million (82%).1

Lots more at the link.

Hitler Youth
 
The Metropolitan Police today vowed to use 'all its powers' to stop pro-Palestine protesters disrupting Armistice Day commemorations - as senior Tories called on Sadiq Khan to get a grip on the 'tense' situation.

Protesters calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza are planning to take to the streets of London on Armistice Day on Saturday November 11. Marches involving tens of thousands of people will also take place in cities across the UK tomorrow.

There are fears marchers could disrupt the two-minute silence commemorating the war dead as well as the daytime and evening Festival of Remembrance at the Royal Albert Hall. The latter is usually attended by members of the Royal Family.

Tom Tugendhat, the security minister and a veteran who served in Afghanistan and Iraq, today called the protests 'inappropriate' and said he had written to the Mayor of London to ask him to consider the 'options available'.

It comes amid broader concerns about the antisemitic slogans being used at pro-Palestine protests, with Israeli ambassador Tzipi Hotovely saying 'jihad ideology' had left London feeling less safe for Jews than wartime Israel.

Antisemitism campaigners warned today that central London has become a 'no go area' for Jews every Saturday - when weekly pro-Palestine demonstrations are typically held.

The Met is currently investigating a female protester who was pictured posing with a banner reading 'please keep the world clean' next to an image of a stick man throwing an Israeli flag bearing the Star of David into a bin.

Met vows to stop pro-Palestine protesters disrupting Armistice Day
 
@SeaBreeze
I refer to my post #936:
Since Palestinian people do not care for the lives of Israeli, even all Jewish children, why should *I* care about theirs?
Because I evolved and they did not. They make it awfully hard, however. I think they devolved.

Count this Jew in as anti Netanyahu & pro 2 State because Before I'm American, Before I'm a Jew I am Human Being, Planet Earth.

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Yes, SeaBreeze, this WAS an isolated incident, the Crime by a Nut Case against a kid.
 
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