Anti-Semitic incidents ( hate crimes ) in the US increased 388% since Oct. 7th

[Paco Dennis]

I have mainly been exposed to racism and it's violence by being involved with African Americans and Puerto Ricans especially when I lived and worked in East New York, and Brownsville. It is the ghetto so I saw a lot of poverty and lots of crime. I had many friends there who were very poor, and disadvantaged. It was bad, This is true with so many cities in our country. If this kind of racism remains in our country, someday ( and seems like now ) we are going to pay a price for elevating some races over others.

 

[Paco Dennis]

The root of hate is fear IMO

I didn't have much fear. I once entered a restaurant to get a sandwich and I noticed all the strange looks I was getting. It was a Black Muslim restaurant. Without fear there was nothing they were bothered by.

 

[Pepper]

Were you a social worker, @Paco Dennis? How did you wind up in the worst neighborhood in Brooklyn?

 

[Paco Dennis]

All discrimination based on race feels the same for anyone no matter their race, One of my best friends is an African American that has two Phd's, and been head of Missouri's environmental Law division. He is retired now and looking to settle down somewhere. Over the past year he has tried living in several parts of the country. 90% of the places he has tried have been very unfriendly to him. They don't accept him like the average citizen., and he knows. Why do people see him as a threat?

 

[Paco Dennis]

Were you a social worker, @Paco Dennis? How did you wind up in the worst neighborhood in Brooklyn?

Yes, I joined an organization that lived in the ghetto. I was there for a year. I had a basketball team of 15-16 year olds' and our gym was on Pitkin Ave, I had to walk at night with a basketball about a mile to get to the gym. That was a real trip.

 

[Pepper]

Yes, I joined an organization that lived in the ghetto. I was there for a year. I had a basketball team of 15-16 year olds' and our gym was on Pitkin Ave, I had to walk at night with a basketball about a mile to get to the gym. That was a real trip.

It's a "bad" area. It's scary bad.

 

[WhatInThe]

It is a DISGRACE!
I think many of these Anti -Semite protesters are college kids , maybe here on a student Visa, who do not have a clue on Israel history, but I notice many seem to be older people who obviously do not have day jobs, and I think they are being paid to protest.

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This is a huge problems because college kids assume their view is the righteous one. 'They have it all figured out' being 'educated' and all that.

You hit the nail on the head because I was about to post about an incident in a Oakland California coffee shop where Jewish patron was 'asked' to leave by a bunch of college age kids/employees.

Jewish woman kicked out of cafe after complaining about antisemitic graffiti scrawled all over bathroom, getting berated by workers

With youth fads and trends tend to spread fast even without tech and that includes a popular opinion or sources of news.

 

[Robb.hisself]

I don't take student protests very seriously anymore because I remember the anti-Viet Nam War protests of which I was a part. We really did not know much about the history nor geo-political context perspective. All we heard was Jane Fonda and what she seemed to represent. I believe students can be easily swayed to this or that perspective.

As for the rise in anti-semitic activity it is almost expected if we are truly a diverse society in the U.S. While the U.S. is very pro Israel from a demographic perspective, one must remember there is a large number of people who are from this part of the world living in the U.S. who have an opposite perspective. So it is no wonder to me that the Hamas-Israel political conflict and now the war would gravitate to very polarized behavior in the U.S.

 

[Pepper]

I don't take student protests very seriously anymore because I remember the anti-Viet Nam War protests of which I was a part. We really did not know much about the history nor geo-political context perspective. All we heard was Jane Fonda and what she seemed to represent. I believe students can be easily swayed to this or that perspective.

There was every opportunity to learn during our protests. Remember 'teach-ins?' I was an SDS member. We were not ignorant of what happened and what was happening. I knew brilliant people, brilliant minds. Jane had nothing to do with it, except as a lightening rod. Sorry your experience was not intellectually gratifying. Mine was. Guess it depended on who you hung with.

 

[Pepper]

As for the rise in anti-semitic activity it is almost expected if we are truly a diverse society in the U.S. While the U.S. is very pro Israel from a demographic perspective, one must remember there is a large number of people who are from this part of the world living in the U.S. who have an opposite perspective. So it is no wonder to me that the Hamas-Israel political conflict and now the war would gravitate to very polarized behavior in the U.S.

Good point.

 

[TabbyAnn]

Unbelievable!! I watched the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and U-Penn say demonstrations calling for the genocide of Jews didn’t violate their school policy.

This from CBS News:
The House Education and Workforce Committee is opening an investigation into the University of Pennsylvania, MIT, Harvard University and other universities after members of Congress were dissatisfied with those universities' presidents' answers during a Tuesday hearing on antisemitism on their campuses.

House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, who had some of the most contentious exchanges with those presidents, announced the opening of the investigation on Thursday, calling their testimony "morally bankrupt." Those universities, among others, have come under fire from Republicans and Democrats alike for what critics see as a weak response to incidents of antisemitism on campus.
House panel opening investigation into Harvard, MIT and UPenn after antisemitism hearing

Claudine Gay, President of Harvard ---- Elizabeth McGill, President of U-Penn

 

[Paco Dennis]

I know hate crimes usually contain violence. Is calling others names considered hate crimes? Like calling people the n- word?
Heated discussions are ok I believe, and the University was defending that.

Yes, the presidents did defend their universities' right to speak out on issues of concern, including the Israel-Palestine conflict. During the hearing, they emphasized that universities have a responsibility to foster an environment of free speech and open dialogue, and that includes allowing students and faculty to express their views on controversial issues.

However, they also stressed that free speech does not extend to hate speech or harassment, and that universities must take steps to ensure that all students feel safe and respected on campus.

Some of the presidents specifically addressed the criticism that their universities have been too critical of Israel, and defended the right of students and faculty to express their views on the issue. They argued that universities should be places where all perspectives are heard and debated, and that censorship is not the solution to combating anti-Semitism or any other form of bigotry.

 

[Myrtle]

Freedom to speak does not always come without consequences.

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‘Words Matter’: Harvard President Apologizes Amid Antisemitism Testimony Backlash

Facing mounting calls to resign, Harvard President Claudine Gay apologized in an interview published Friday morning in the Harvard Crimson, telling the student-run newspaper “words matter,” as tensions rise at the Ivy League school over student-led protests critical of Israel and as Gay faces calls to step down for her response to reports of rising antisemitism on campus.

MSN

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UPenn in crisis as donor threatens to pull $100m over college president’s comments at antisemitism hearing

UPenn’s top officials are in crisis mode after $100 million in donor shares could be rescinded and calls are being made for a change in leadership following a controversial appearance in Congress of the university’s president.

University of Pennsylvania president Liz Magill testified in a congressional hearing on antisemitism on Tuesday alongside the chiefs of Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

All three would not explicitly say that calling for the genocide of Jews would necessarily violate their code of conduct on bullying or harassment, and would depend on the circumstances.

Significant donor Ross Stevens, a UPenn alum and a Wall Street CEO, has threatened to strip the university of a $100 million donation if the president stays on.

“Absent a change in leadership and values at Penn in the very near future, I plan to rescind Penn’s Stone Ridge shares to help prevent any further reputational and other damage to Stone Ridge as a result of our relationship with Penn and Liz Magill,” Mr Stevens said in a note to his employees on Thursday that was obtained by CNN.

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[Paco Dennis]

Freedom to speak does not always come without consequences.

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‘Words Matter’: Harvard President Apologizes Amid Antisemitism Testimony Backlash

Facing mounting calls to resign, Harvard President Claudine Gay apologized in an interview published Friday morning in the Harvard Crimson, telling the student-run newspaper “words matter,” as tensions rise at the Ivy League school over student-led protests critical of Israel and as Gay faces calls to step down for her response to reports of rising antisemitism on campus.

MSN

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UPenn in crisis as donor threatens to pull $100m over college president’s comments at antisemitism hearing

UPenn’s top officials are in crisis mode after $100 million in donor shares could be rescinded and calls are being made for a change in leadership following a controversial appearance in Congress of the university’s president.

University of Pennsylvania president Liz Magill testified in a congressional hearing on antisemitism on Tuesday alongside the chiefs of Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

All three would not explicitly say that calling for the genocide of Jews would necessarily violate their code of conduct on bullying or harassment, and would depend on the circumstances.

Significant donor Ross Stevens, a UPenn alum and a Wall Street CEO, has threatened to strip the university of a $100 million donation if the president stays on.

“Absent a change in leadership and values at Penn in the very near future, I plan to rescind Penn’s Stone Ridge shares to help prevent any further reputational and other damage to Stone Ridge as a result of our relationship with Penn and Liz Magill,” Mr Stevens said in a note to his employees on Thursday that was obtained by CNN.

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Doesn't that decision seem based on big money? It doesn't seem to be at all addressing the ethical grounds. Words have consequences, yea, punishing them like they aren't going to get their allowance. More like extortion.

 

[Pepper]

Understand this:
Despite all the screaming about genocide only one people in our lifetimes have truly been the victims: my people.

Hate speech concerning Jews has led to ovens. Cut the free speech crap. I'll have none of it. As for big money? Well, we all know Jews either have all the money in the world or are communists, take your pick.

Never Again. I'll repeat NEVER AGAIN

 

[Pepper]

Must I delete the above post? Will someone report me for being mean or rude or overly dramatic? This has happened to me before discussing the Holocaust. What is mean & rude is not me speaking of it, but IT, ITSELF.

 

[Myrtle]

Must I delete the above post? Will someone report me for being mean or rude or overly dramatic? This has happened to me before discussing the Holocaust. What is mean & rude is not me speaking of it, but IT, ITSELF.

I hope not but I have no idea what to expect from this forum on this topic. Things have changed a lot since the first post about Oct. 7th appeared.
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Stanford condemns 'genocide of Jews' in apparent jab at Harvard, other university leaders​

STANFORD, Calif. (TND) — Stanford University released a statement Friday condemning antisemitism in what appears to be a jab at Harvard University.

“In the context of the national discourse,” the university wrote, “Stanford unequivocally condemns calls for the genocide of Jews or any peoples. That statement would clearly violate Stanford’s Fundamental Standard, the code of conduct for all students at the university.”

Stanford condemns 'genocide of Jews' in apparent jab at Harvard, other university leaders

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Feds identify man who allegedly fired shots outside NY synagogue on first night of Hanukkah​

The man who fired a shotgun outside a synagogue in Albany and then yelled, “Free Palestine!” on Thursday — sending state troopers and the New York National Guard on high alert — is a 28-year-old Iraqi native, authorities say.

Mufid Fawaz Alkhader of nearby Schenectady allegedly fired two shots into the air from a Kel-Tec KS7 12-gauge shotgun in a wooded area outside Temple Israel in New York’s capital at 2 p.m., shortly before the official start of the first night of Hanukkah, federal prosecutors said..

Alkhader was quickly cuffed after laying down his weapon near the Jewish temple afterward. No one was injured in the incident.

He allegedly told investigators that he felt affected by current events in the Middle East, according to court papers.

A man who identified himself as Alkhader’s father at the accused gunman’s home said his son was mentally ill.

Feds identify man who allegedly fired shots outside NY synagogue on first night of Hanukkah

 

[TabbyAnn]

I hope the million dollar donors and tuition sponsors at Harvard, U-Penn and MIT practice their free speech and say they no longer want idiots like Claudine Gay, Liz McGill and Sally Kornbluth to be President or they are withdrawing all funds and sponsored students.

 

[Paco Dennis]

Understand this:
Despite all the screaming about genocide only one people in our lifetimes have truly been the victims: my people.

Hate speech concerning Jews has led to ovens. Cut the free speech crap. I'll have none of it. As for big money? Well, we all know Jews either have all the money in the world or are communists, take your pick.

Never Again. I'll repeat NEVER AGAIN

Agreed!! That goes for these races also.


List of genocides in reverse chronological order

Event	Location	Period	Estimated killings	Proportion of group killed
From	To	Lowest	Highest
Rohingya genocide[N 1]	Rakhine State Myanmar	2016	Present	9,000–13,700 [9]	43,000 [10]	Before the 2015 Rohingya refugee crisis and the military crackdown in 2016 and 2017, the Rohingya population in Myanmar was around 1.0 to 1.3 million, chiefly in the northern Rakhine townships, which were 80–98% Rohingya. Since 2015, over 900,000 Rohingya refugees have fled to south-eastern Bangladesh alone, and more to other surrounding countries, and major Muslim nations. More than 100,000 Rohingyas in Myanmar are confined in camps for internally displaced persons.
Uyghur genocide[11][12][13][14]	Xinjiang, China	2014	Present	N/A	N/A	The Uyghur genocide is based on sterilization, detention, and cultural genocide rather than killings.
Iraqi Turkmen genocide[N 2]	Islamic State-controlled territory in northern Iraq	2014	2017	3,500	8,400
Genocide of Yazidis by the Islamic State[N 3]	Islamic State-controlled territory in northern Iraq and Syria	2014	2019	2,100 [22]	5,000 [23]
Darfur genocide[N 4]	Darfur, Sudan	2003	Present	98,000 [26]	500,000 [27]
Effacer le tableau[N 5]	North Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo	2002	2003	60,000 [30][28]	70,000 [30]	40% of the Eastern Congo's Pygmy population killed[N 6]
Massacres of Hutus during the First Congo War[N 7]	Kivu, Zaire (now the DRC)	1996	1997	200,000 [33]	232,000 [34]
Rwandan genocide[N 8]	Rwanda	1994	491,000 [35]	800,000 [36]	60–70% of Tutsis in Rwanda killed[35] 7% of Rwanda's total population killed[35]
Bosnian genocide[N 9]	Bosnia and Herzegovina	1992	1995	31,107[41]	156,500[42]	More than 3% of the Bosniak population of Bosnia and Herzegovina died during the Bosnian War.[43]
Isaaq genocide[N 10]	Somaliland, Somalia	1987	1989	50,000 [58][49]	200,000 [59]
Anfal genocide[N 11]	Kurdistan Region during Ba'athist Iraq	1986	1989	50,000 [63]	182,000 [64]
Gukurahundi[N 12]	Matabeleland, Zimbabwe	1983	1987	8,000 [67]	300,000 [68]
Cambodian genocide[N 13]	Democratic Kampuchea, Cambodia	1975	1979	1,386,734 [77][78]	3,000,000 [72][79]	15–33% of total population of Cambodia killed[80][81] including: 99% of Cambodian Viets 50% of Cambodian Chinese and Cham 40% of Cambodian Lao and Thai 25% of Urban Khmer 16% of Rural Khmer
East Timor genocide[N 14]	East Timor, Indonesia	1974	1999	85,320 [86]	196,720 [87]	13% to 44% of East Timor's total population killed (See death toll of East Timor genocide)
Genocide of Acholi and Lango people under Idi Amin[N 15]	Uganda	1972	1978	100,000 [88]	300,000 [88]
Ikiza[N 16]	Burundi	1972	80,000 [89][90]	300,000 [91]	As much as 10% to 15% of the Hutu population of Burundi killed[91]
Bangladesh genocide[N 17]	East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)	1971	300,000 [94]	3,000,000 [95][96]	2%[citation needed] to 4% of the population of East Pakistan[97]
Guatemalan genocide[N 18]	Guatemala	1962	1996	166,000 [102]	166,000 [103]	40% of the Maya population (24,000 people) of Guatemala's Ixil and Rabinal regions were killed[citation needed]
Deportation of the Chechens and Ingush[N 19]	Soviet Union (now Russia)	1944	1948	100,000 [110]	400,000 [111]	23.5% to almost 50% of total Chechen population killed[112] [104][page needed][105][106][113]
Deportation of the Crimean Tatars[N 20]	Crimea, Soviet Union (now Ukraine)	1944	1948 (denied right to return until 1989)	34,000 [118]	195,471 [119]	The deportation and following exile reduced the Crimean Tatar population by between 18%[118] and 46%.[120] Unlike other deported peoples who were acknowledged to be distinct ethnic groups and given their national republics back under Khrushchev, the Crimean Tatars were not given the right of return for decades, and in addition were stripped of recognition as a distinct ethnic group as part of a wider campaign pushing for their assimilation in the Fergana valley.[121]
The Holocaust[N 21]	Nazi Germany and German-occupied Europe	1941	1945	4,204,000 [123][124][125]	7,000,000 [126]	Around 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe.[127][128]
German atrocities committed against Soviet prisoners of war,[129][130] part of the Generalplan Ost and Hunger Plan	German-occupied Europe	1941	1945	3,300,000 [131][132]	3,500,000 [132]	During World War II, Nazi Germany engaged in a policy of deliberate maltreatment of Soviet prisoners of war (POWs), in contrast to their treatment of British and American POWs. This policy, which amounted to deliberately starving and working to death Soviet POWs, was grounded in Nazi racial theory, which depicted Slavs as sub-humans (Untermenschen).[133][130]
The Holocaust in Croatia including the Serbian genocide[N 22]	Independent State of Croatia (now Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia)	1941	1945	200,000 [N 23][135]	500,000 [N 23][135]
Genocide against Bosniaks and Croats by the Chetniks[N 24]	Occupied Yugoslavia (now Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro)	1941	1945	50,000 [140]	68,000 [140]
Nazi crimes against the Polish nation,[141][142] part of the Generalplan Ost	German-occupied Europe	1939	1945	1,800,000 [143]	3,000,000 [144][145]	From 6% to 10% of the total Polish gentile population. In addition, 3 million Polish Jews were killed during the Holocaust in Poland (90% of Polish Jews).[143]
Polish Operation of the NKVD[N 25]	Soviet Union (now Ukraine, Belarus and Russia)	1937	1938	111,091 [150]	250,000 [151]	22% of the Polish population of the USSR was "sentenced" by the operation (140,000 people)[152]
Parsley massacre[N 26]	Dominican Republic	1937	1937	12,000	40,000[158]	Details of the casualties are still hard to gather.
Romani genocide[N 27]	German-occupied Europe	1935[161]	1945	130,000 [162]	1,500,000[163][164]	25% to 80% of Romani people in Europe killed
Holodomor[N 28]	Ukraine and the heavily Ukrainian-populated northern Kuban,[168] in the Soviet Union	1932	1933	3,000,000[169]	5,000,000[169]	In the Ukrainian SSR, an estimated 3–3.5 million people died of starvation and disease (from malnutrition), with total demographic losses, including famine-derived decrease in fertility, 4.5–4.8 million.[170] Total population was about 32.3 million in 1932. The classification as a genocide is debated, see Holodomor genocide question.
Pacification of Libya[N 29]	Italian Libya (now Libya)	1923	1932	80,000 [175]	125,000 [182]	25% of Cyrenaican population killed[175]
Osage Indian murders[N 30]	Oklahoma, United States	1918	1931	60 [188]	200+ [189]	Estimates vary widely, with 10% of 591 full-blood Osage being killed with the lowest estimate.[190]
Armenian genocide[N 31]	Ottoman Empire (now Turkey, Syria and Iraq)	1915	1917	600,000 [196]	1,500,000 [197]	90% of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire killed[198] The share of Christians in area within Turkey's current borders declined from 20-22% in 1914, or about 3.3.–3.6 million people, to around 3% in 1927.[199]
Assyrian genocide	Ottoman Empire (now Turkey, Syria and Iraq)	1915	1919	200,000 [200]	750,000 [201]
Greek genocide Pontic genocide[N 32]	Ottoman Empire (now Turkey)	1914	1922	300,000 [202]	900,000 [203]	At least 25% of Greeks in Anatolia (Turkey) killed[citation needed]
Herero and Namaqua genocide[N 33]	German South West Africa (now Namibia)	1904	1908	34,000 [204]	110,000 [205][206]	60% (24,000 out of 40,000[204]) to 81.25% (65,000[207][208] out of 80,000[209]) of total Herero and 50%[204] of Nama population killed.
Armenian massacres of 1894–1896[N 34]	Ottoman Empire, Six Vilayets (now Turkey)	1894	1896	200,000 [211]	300,000 [211]
Selk'nam genocide[N 35]	Tierra del Fuego, Chile, Argentina	1880	1910	2,500 [216]	4,000 [217]	84% The genocide reduced their numbers from around 3,000 to about 500 people. (Now pure Selk'nam are considered extinct.)[218][219]
Putumayo genocide	Putumayo Department, Colombia	1879	1913	32,000[220]	40,000+[221][222]	80-86% of the total population in the Putumayo region perished during the Amazon rubber boom.[223][N 36] Members of the Huitoto, Andoques, Yaguas, Ocaina and Boras groups were hunted and enslaved so they could be used to extract latex.[224] During this time period, several tribes became extinct.[225]
Circassian genocide[N 37]	Russian Empire-occupied Circassia	1864[N 38]	1867	400,000 [234][235] [236][237]	2,000,000 [238][235] [236][237]	95%–97% of total Circassian population killed or deported by the Russian forces.[239][240] Only a small percentage who accepted to convert to Christianity, Russify and resettle within the Russian Empire were spared. The remaining Circassian populations who refused were thus forcefully dispersed, deported or killed. Today, most Circassians live in exile.[241]
California genocide[N 39]	California, United States	1846	1873	9,492–16,094 [242][243][N 40]	120,000 [243][N 41]	Amerindian population in California declined by 80% during the period
Queensland Aboriginal genocide[N 42]	Queensland (now Australia)	1840	1897	10,000 [250]	65,180 [251]	3.3% to over 50% of the aboriginal population was killed (10,000[250] to 65,180[251] killed out of 125,600)[clarification needed]
Moriori genocide[N 43]	Chatham Islands, New Zealand	1835	1863	1,900 [253][254]	1,900	95% of the Moriori population was eradicated by the invasion from Taranaki, a group of people from the Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama iwi.[255][256] All were enslaved and many were cannibalised.[257] The Moriori language is now extinct.[252][258]
Massacre of Salsipuedes[N 44]	Uruguay	1831	1831	40 [261]	40
Black War (Genocide of Aboriginal Tasmanians)[N 45]	Van Diemen's Land (now Australia)	Mid 1820s	1832	400 [264]	1,000 [264]	~100%[263]
1804 Haiti massacre[N 46]	Haiti	1804	1804	3,000 [269]	5,000 [269]
Dzungar genocide[N 47]	Dzungaria, during Qing-dynasty (now China)	1755	1758	480,000 [273]	600,000 [273]	80% of 600,000 Zungharian Oirats killed
Taíno genocide[N 48]	Hispaniola (now Dominican Republic and Haiti)	1492	1514	68,000 [280]	968,000 [280]	68% to over 96% of the Taíno population perished under Spanish rule.[280]
Albigensian Crusade (Cathar genocide)[N 49]	Languedoc (now France)	1209	1229	200,000 [287]	1,000,000 [288]

 

[Pepper]

I hope the million dollar donors and tuition sponsors at Harvard, U-Penn and MIT practice their free speech and say they no longer want idiots like Claudine Gay, Liz McGill and Sally Kornbluth to be President or they are withdrawing all funds and sponsored students.

The thing many may not know is the Wealth of these institutions. Even if certain donors & sponsors withdraw their funds, it will barely be missed, that is how entrenched they are. The first two you mentioned are Ivies; they've been increasing their funds since before the Revolution.

 

[Robb.hisself]

we are going to pay a price for elevating some races over others.

By 'elevating' do you mean as affirmative action elevates some over others. Such as those who are not qualified for a job by something that they had to apply themselves to obtain like an education or expertise, but got the job or promotion only because of the color of their skin or their gender?

 

[mrstime]

I get it that Muslims hate the Jews, heck they hate Christians too, but why do others hate Jews? I just don't get it.

 

[Robb.hisself]

I know hate crimes usually contain violence. Is calling others names considered hate crimes? Like calling people the n- word?

My employment background took me into businesses which were largely populated by employees that were black, namely working in slaughter houses. I often heard black people call each other by the n-word. It was a very common experience and there was no hatred or demeaning about it. So calling black people by the n-word is o.k. depending on who does the calling. For black to black interaction it is common. For white to black it is insighting.

This observed sort of contradiction to me explains the conflict between white and black as actually culture based rather than race based. What divides black and white races in the U.S. is far more than simply race, I believe. Until this divide is addressed you can have all the equality addressing legal, economic, and social laws and regulations you like, but they will never fully address what divides black and white America.

 

[Robb.hisself]

but why do others hate Jews? I just don't get it.

The reason Christians hate Jews is because the Jews killed Christ as is read in the New Testament. But, actually if you try to understand this in the historical context you would understand it much better.

There were no Roman legions stationed in Judea at the time of Christ. (After the general insurrection against the Romans in 70 A.D. there were, but Christ predates this event.) A Roman legion was stationed in Jerusalem only during the days of Passover to keep the peace because historically there was unrest during this period of the year fomented by zealots.

When Christ entered the temple and overthrew the money changers this act was the very act which others before him committed as well and was why the Romans were there at this time. Christ was sentenced to death for this act which the Romans considered to be sedition. Sedition against the Empire. So from a historical perspective Christ was not killed by the Jews, but rather the Romans. But, the New Testament writes the whole affair differently. Does the New Testament record the event truthfully? No it does not. Rather it writes of the event so to rationalize it differently.

If you bother to understand most religious writings within their historical or actual context then their truth and trustworthiness can be fairly judged and evaluated. But, no religious body wants you to do that.

So now you can see why the New Testament says as it says about who killed Christ. The Jews. And, thus Christians do not like the Jews. But, just one minute. Christ was a Jew. And, by that should you hate Christ?

 

[mrstime]

The reason Christians hate Jews is because the Jews killed Christ as is read in the New Testament. But, actually if you try to understand this in the historical context you would understand it much better.

There were no Roman legions stationed in Judea at the time of Christ. (After the general insurrection against the Romans in 70 A.D. there were, but Christ predates this event.) A Roman legion was stationed in Jerusalem only during the days of Passover to keep the peace because historically there was unrest during this period of the year fomented by zealots.

When Christ entered the temple and overthrew the money changers this act was the very act which others before him committed as well and was why the Romans were there at this time. Christ was sentenced to death for this act which the Romans considered to be sedition. Sedition against the Empire. So from a historical perspective Christ was not killed by the Jews, but rather the Romans. But, the New Testament writes the whole affair differently. Does the New Testament record the event truthfully? No it does not. Rather it writes of the event so to rationalize it differently.

If you bother to understand most religious writings within their historical or actual context then their truth and trustworthiness can be fairly judged and evaluated. But, no religious body wants you to do that.

I understood that the Romans killed Jesus, but no one ever seems to blame them or want to kill all of them.