Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu will never admit it

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I was surprised at this headline this morning. I didn't think they were losing, but winning control of Hamas. How could they be losing?

Until recently the war narrative on Gaza has been very largely controlled by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the country’s ministry of defence. Israel’s international reputation may have plummeted with the killing of more than 20,000 Palestinians, the wounding of more than 50,000 and the destruction of much of Gaza, but the IDF could still sell a plausible narrative of a severely weakened Hamas, even claiming that the war in northern Gaza was largely complete, and success in southern Gaza would follow before too long.

The narrative was helped by severe difficulties for the few journalists still operating in Gaza, including the risk to their personal safety, while the international press corps was stuck in Jerusalem and dependent on IDF sources for much of their information.


That changed as a different picture began to emerge. First there was a lack of evidence to support the IDF’s claim of a Hamas headquarters under al-Shifa hospital, then the IDF could not identify the location of the Israeli hostages, despite having some of the world’s most advanced intelligence.

Very recently there have been two further incidents. On 12 December, there was a skilful triple ambush staged by Hamas paramilitaries in a part of Gaza supposedly controlled by Israeli forces. An IDF unit was ambushed and took casualties. Further troops were sent to aid that unit, and they were then ambushed, as were reinforcements.

Ten IDF soldiers were reported killed and other seriously wounded, but it was their seniority that counted, including as it did a colonel and three majors from the elite Golani Brigade. That Hamas, supposedly decimated and with thousands of troops already killed, could mount such an operation anywhere in Gaza, let alone a district reportedly already under IDF control, should raise doubts about the idea that Israel is making substantial progress in the war.

A further indication came a few days later, when three Israeli hostages succeeded in getting away from their captors, only to be killed by IDF soldiers, even though shirtless and carrying a white flag. What has since made that worse, and is causing considerable anger in Israel, is that calls from the hostages were picked up by an audio-equipped IDF search-dog five days before they were killed.

There are other, wider indications of the IDF’s problems. Official casualty figures have shown more than 460 military personnel killed in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank and about 1,900 wounded. But other sources suggest far greater numbers of wounded. Ten days ago, Israel’s leading daily, Yedioth Ahronoth, published information obtained from the ministry of defence’s rehabilitation department.

This put casualty numbers at more than 5,000, with 58% of them classed as serious and more than 2,000 officially recognised as disabled. There have also been a number of friendly fire casualties, with the Times of Israel reporting 20 out of 105 deaths due to such fire or accidents during fighting.

Overall, the IDF is still following the well-rehearsed Dahiya doctrine of massive force in responding to irregular war, causing extensive social and economic damage, undermining the will of the insurgents to fight while deterring future threats to Israel’s security. But it is going badly wrong. Criticism is coming from unexpected quarters, including from the former UK defence minister, Ben Wallace, who has warned of an impact lasting 50 years. Even the Biden administration is becoming thoroughly uneasy at what is unfolding, yet Benjamin Netanyahu and the war cabinet are determined to continue for as long as they can.

It is worth recognising why. The 7 October attacks and the brutality involved struck Israel’s assumption of security to the core, which means that the great majority of Israeli Jews have so far continued to support Netanyahu’s response. Even that, though, is fraying and is made worse by the killing of the three hostages by IDF troops.

An effect of all this is that the IDF commanders are coming under huge pressure to succeed, and will go as far as the war cabinet will allow. Many of those commanders are highly intelligent if inevitably single-minded people, and will now know that for all Netanyahu’s rhetoric, Hamas, or at least Hamas’s ideas, cannot be defeated by military force. They also know that while talks are stalling, pressure from the families of hostages may soon result in another humanitarian pause. Therefore, their aim will be to damage Hamas as much as they can, as quickly as they can, while they can, whatever the cost to Palestinians. For evidence of this approach, witness this week’s intense air raids.

What makes that possible is Netanyahu’s dependence on an extremist minority of religious fundamentalists and trenchant Zionists in his government. They would not have anything like the wider support in Israel were it not for the tragedy of 7 October, yet they are doing more and more harm to Israel’s long-term security. Not only does Israel risk becoming a pariah state, even among its allies, but it will also fuel a generation of radical opposition from a reconstituted Hamas or its inevitable successor.

Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it | Paul Rogers
 

What would, Ben Ferentcz have to say?
Something similar to this: "the situation is very clear. The problem with the Hamas is that they're committing a double war crime, because they are targeting honest civilians. We told the Gazan people to clear the area temporarily, we can go and take Hamas out. Hamas has turned Gaza into an enemy state."
Israel, Hamas and the laws of war: A primer


Ben Ferentcz would support Israel. There is no doubt in my mind.
 
The United Nations, after days of negotiations,
just voted, and it passed, to ramp up Gaza aid
and demand release of hostages.
Yes, I heard that. I hope for more corridors open for them to receive aid. They do not want Hamas to regroup though. All of this must be closely monitored.
 
I believe Israel and Hamas are playing a deadly chess game of tit for tat - all to achieve total victory, which is unachievable.
It certainly is deadly. Is it true that using violence will just create more violence? If so, you are right...no one will be winners, and this could escalate into a much bigger conflict. I am hearing the Iran is behind attacks on commercial shipping vessels in the Red Sea. America will not stand by and let that happen. The utmost sanity needs to prevail now as the war is reaching critical mass.
 
I'm out of free articles at the moment.

NYT - column on the movie "Munich"

"In the movie’s most resonant scene — a gorgeously controlled climax of tension and blackest comedy — Avner and his team find themselves accidentally sharing a safe house with their Palestinian enemies, led by a man named Ali. In the quiet of a night’s cease-fire, the two men share an exchange that feels chillingly relevant today:

Avner: You people have nothing to bargain with. You’ll never get the land back. You’ll all die old men in refugee camps, waiting for Palestine.

Ali: We have a lot of children. They’ll have children. So we can wait forever. And if we need to, we can make the whole planet unsafe for Jews.

Avner: You kill Jews, and the world feels bad for them and thinks you animals.

Ali: Yes. But then the world will see how they’ve made us into animals.
 
I was surprised at this headline this morning. I didn't think they were losing, but winning control of Hamas. How could they be losing?

Until recently the war narrative on Gaza has been very largely controlled by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the country’s ministry of defence. Israel’s international reputation may have plummeted with the killing of more than 20,000 Palestinians, the wounding of more than 50,000 and the destruction of much of Gaza, but the IDF could still sell a plausible narrative of a severely weakened Hamas, even claiming that the war in northern Gaza was largely complete, and success in southern Gaza would follow before too long.

The narrative was helped by severe difficulties for the few journalists still operating in Gaza, including the risk to their personal safety, while the international press corps was stuck in Jerusalem and dependent on IDF sources for much of their information.


That changed as a different picture began to emerge. First there was a lack of evidence to support the IDF’s claim of a Hamas headquarters under al-Shifa hospital, then the IDF could not identify the location of the Israeli hostages, despite having some of the world’s most advanced intelligence.

Very recently there have been two further incidents. On 12 December, there was a skilful triple ambush staged by Hamas paramilitaries in a part of Gaza supposedly controlled by Israeli forces. An IDF unit was ambushed and took casualties. Further troops were sent to aid that unit, and they were then ambushed, as were reinforcements.

Ten IDF soldiers were reported killed and other seriously wounded, but it was their seniority that counted, including as it did a colonel and three majors from the elite Golani Brigade. That Hamas, supposedly decimated and with thousands of troops already killed, could mount such an operation anywhere in Gaza, let alone a district reportedly already under IDF control, should raise doubts about the idea that Israel is making substantial progress in the war.

A further indication came a few days later, when three Israeli hostages succeeded in getting away from their captors, only to be killed by IDF soldiers, even though shirtless and carrying a white flag. What has since made that worse, and is causing considerable anger in Israel, is that calls from the hostages were picked up by an audio-equipped IDF search-dog five days before they were killed.

There are other, wider indications of the IDF’s problems. Official casualty figures have shown more than 460 military personnel killed in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank and about 1,900 wounded. But other sources suggest far greater numbers of wounded. Ten days ago, Israel’s leading daily, Yedioth Ahronoth, published information obtained from the ministry of defence’s rehabilitation department.

This put casualty numbers at more than 5,000, with 58% of them classed as serious and more than 2,000 officially recognised as disabled. There have also been a number of friendly fire casualties, with the Times of Israel reporting 20 out of 105 deaths due to such fire or accidents during fighting.

Overall, the IDF is still following the well-rehearsed Dahiya doctrine of massive force in responding to irregular war, causing extensive social and economic damage, undermining the will of the insurgents to fight while deterring future threats to Israel’s security. But it is going badly wrong. Criticism is coming from unexpected quarters, including from the former UK defence minister, Ben Wallace, who has warned of an impact lasting 50 years. Even the Biden administration is becoming thoroughly uneasy at what is unfolding, yet Benjamin Netanyahu and the war cabinet are determined to continue for as long as they can.

It is worth recognising why. The 7 October attacks and the brutality involved struck Israel’s assumption of security to the core, which means that the great majority of Israeli Jews have so far continued to support Netanyahu’s response. Even that, though, is fraying and is made worse by the killing of the three hostages by IDF troops.

An effect of all this is that the IDF commanders are coming under huge pressure to succeed, and will go as far as the war cabinet will allow. Many of those commanders are highly intelligent if inevitably single-minded people, and will now know that for all Netanyahu’s rhetoric, Hamas, or at least Hamas’s ideas, cannot be defeated by military force. They also know that while talks are stalling, pressure from the families of hostages may soon result in another humanitarian pause. Therefore, their aim will be to damage Hamas as much as they can, as quickly as they can, while they can, whatever the cost to Palestinians. For evidence of this approach, witness this week’s intense air raids.

What makes that possible is Netanyahu’s dependence on an extremist minority of religious fundamentalists and trenchant Zionists in his government. They would not have anything like the wider support in Israel were it not for the tragedy of 7 October, yet they are doing more and more harm to Israel’s long-term security. Not only does Israel risk becoming a pariah state, even among its allies, but it will also fuel a generation of radical opposition from a reconstituted Hamas or its inevitable successor.


Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it | Paul Rogers
Your article mentioned the injuries among the IDF and that reminded me of a video I watched a few days ago, made by a wounded soldier. He was livid because the military was neglecting to help him (and his family) with treatment for his wounds (loss the use of his legs) and the PTSD that was making his life a nightmare. If he's angry for that reason, how many other families are experiencing the same things and they'll all be talking about their governments failure in that regard.

Seems to me that if any government is going to ask/insist the people do that kind of work for them, the after care should be the best in the world. And yet, we hear of issues in Canada, the USA and now Israel with that aftercare. Probably other countries too. Reeks of ingratitude on the parts of governments.
 
I'm out of free articles at the moment.

NYT - column on the movie "Munich"

"In the movie’s most resonant scene — a gorgeously controlled climax of tension and blackest comedy — Avner and his team find themselves accidentally sharing a safe house with their Palestinian enemies, led by a man named Ali. In the quiet of a night’s cease-fire, the two men share an exchange that feels chillingly relevant today:
Spending time reading about how the Palestinian people are oppressed and abused on a day to day basis (before the idea of October 7th was even born in the mind of a Hamas member), would illustrate exactly what that last phrase (Ali: Yes. But then the world will see how they’ve made us into animals.) is all about. I am also 100% sure, that if our communities were being treated like they are by a greater power, we would feel as angry and oppressed as the Palestinian people and some of our young men would be fighting back too.
 
Netanyahu know this was his chance to take over Palestine. His reaction has never been about the attack, it's about finally having an excuse to put his foot on the neck of Palestinians. He wants to destroy the entire country, not because of the attack, but because that's been his agenda for decades.

So he takes American missiles and funds and uses them to execute children. The last figure I saw was that 5500 children has been killed by Israel. As bad as the Hamas attack was, let that sink in. 5500 live stubbed out, in their childhood years, using tax monies paid by Americans.

Israel has every right to defend itself. What Hamas did was beyond the pail. But the response - as always - is way out of proportion. In UN meetings, the US government has continued to support the killing of children by abstaining and/or using their influence to pull back from a demand for a ceasefire. Kids are dying every day. But we're apparently okay with it because of the righteousness of Israel. It's shameful.

I have, against better judgement, posted in the thread. I will *not* check back here again. I can't get my head around American tax payers being okay with the death being wrought on people miles away from the Hamas attack squads. Children are closing their eyes for the last time, and it's your money that is making it so.
 
Netanyahu know this was his chance to take over Palestine. His reaction has never been about the attack, it's about finally having an excuse to put his foot on the neck of Palestinians. He wants to destroy the entire country, not because of the attack, but because that's been his agenda for decades.

So he takes American missiles and funds and uses them to execute children. The last figure I saw was that 5500 children has been killed by Israel. As bad as the Hamas attack was, let that sink in. 5500 live stubbed out, in their childhood years, using tax monies paid by Americans.

Israel has every right to defend itself. What Hamas did was beyond the pail. But the response - as always - is way out of proportion. In UN meetings, the US government has continued to support the killing of children by abstaining and/or using their influence to pull back from a demand for a ceasefire. Kids are dying every day. But we're apparently okay with it because of the righteousness of Israel. It's shameful.

I have, against better judgement, posted in the thread. I will *not* check back here again. I can't get my head around American tax payers being okay with the death being wrought on people miles away from the Hamas attack squads. Children are closing their eyes for the last time, and it's your money that is making it so.
Kids are dying every day and other kids and their mothers are getting limbs amputated and no medications for pain relief or anesthetic! I can't even imagine how you comfort a little one who's had her legs cut off.....!!!! Saw a clip yesterday of a baby like that and hearing her wailing and whimpering from the pain absolutely broke my heart.
 


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