New Video Shows Thousands of Migrants Headed on Foot to Southern US Border

Knight said:
I'm trying to understand what grit or caterpillars has to do with a wealthy man spending his money & leaving. Are you saying the illegals aren't spending money but are relying on tax payers to provide the same comfort & services as the wealthy man had.
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I guess 150,000 Takes-offs all over the world each day on average spells out the number of immigrants 100 / 200 / 300+ passengers in each take off arriving all over every day. Obviously, someone is contributing, and someone is gathering the rewards. When you check real time radar and realize just how many planes are coming /leaving your state in real time ya sort of got to believe. To put that in Context, watch the I-State coming into a city any time of the day and realize its sort of the Air Lanes across the world. These people travel where ever they want any place, any time 365 ---24-7's.....(y) Sure the Hotels / rental agencies reap a fortune. They are here, coming and forever.

Caterpillars are about fixing S.A.'s exodus to the USA.
 

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SeaBreeze said:
Doesn't matter. We don't have to agree, and I'm very pleased about that. Less than universally valid? Weak sauce. Your opinion.
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And there's your opinion. Interesting.

As in law (the legal profession), it's understood that when you don't have a valid argument, you instead attack the poster.
 

Nathan said:
Not having a coherient and workable immigration policy has been a stumbling block since(at least) the '60s. Politicians would rather keep the immigration issue weaponized for political gain, as immigrants are the "them" in the "US vs Them" political theater. The US wants cheap labor, that's why China makes our goods, we need immigrants for cheap labor in the service sector of the economy, but WE pretend to be the 'victim' instead of the perpetrator.
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I agree with all that except; WE are the victims ...of our politician's games and manipulation, and WE have to live with all the downsides.
 
Devi said:
And there's your opinion. Interesting.

As in law (the legal profession), it's understood that when you don't have a valid argument, you instead attack the poster.
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That is my opinion, and I'm not in the law profession and highly doubt you are. Did you think I was speaking to you, or did you just have to pop in to give your opinion? ;)
 
SeaBreeze said:
That is my opinion, and I'm not in the law profession and highly doubt you are. Did you think I was speaking to you, or did you just have to pop in to give your opinion? ;)
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I don't have to be "in" the law profession to state what I've often personally heard stated by lawyers as a tactic.
 
Devi said:
I don't have to be "in" the law profession to state what I've often personally heard stated by lawyers as a tactic.
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I know your feathers are ruffled Devi, good night, get some rest. I've wasted enough time, don't care to childishly bicker with you. Sweet dreams.
 
One possible deeply hidden reason for the almost frantic behavior 0f some anti- immigrants/anti-abortion individuals may be because of fear that immigrant populations may out-produce them and spur an increase in the racial percentages of non whites. I don't know the current percentages on this, but white women are not producing as many offspring as they did at one time (due to both better methods of contraception and abortion) and the racial balance in the US is shifting somewhat. A significant percentage of immigrants (particularly those from South of us) are Catholics and don't even use contraception (there's even talk of outlawing contraception). I suspect white supremacists and white supremacist-leaning conservatives don't relish being out-numbered by "inferior races".- hence all the negative hullabaloo against both.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Lol, you ask the question that all anti-immigration characters ask, didn't think you had to get ridiculous, but guess you did. We are in our seventies, we don't offer our home to any strangers, whether needy migrants or homegrown terrorists. As I said, we need immigration reform and there will be some costs involved when asylum seekers come to America. I don't nitpick about cost, I also am in favor of Universal Healthcare, our taxes would be a bit higher, but overall it would save money for all citizens and it's the wise thing to do for this country.
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Why wouldn't I ask how many of those illegals immigrants you would house? It's nice to want someone else to provide that but even you must have seen the crowded conditions where they are upon entry. I think now that the sanctuary cities are actually having to provide sanctuary the reality of doing what it takes is changing the minds of those not previously affected.

The acronym NIMBY might need to be NIMC Not In My City.

Even the liberal compassionate citizens of Denver & counties neighboring Denver are waking up to the reality of cost.

Denver has spent more than $32 million so far on migrants, and it could spend as much as $100 million in the next year, according to the mayor. With less than $1 million from the federal government so far and $9 million promised by the Department of Homeland Security, Johnston said, Denver could be forced to make some tough decisions.

“We are fighting hard to avoid any cuts to core services,” he said. “But we do know these were not expenditures we had planned in the budget.”

Johnston said the city would have to look at cutting shelter for migrants to avoid cuts in other key areas.

“We’d have to look at not doing things like hotel stays and doing less safe, less supervised congregate shelter sites. We’d have to do less in the way of ongoing housing, navigation or workforce training,” he said.

Two counties neighboring Denver have pushed back against the city’s hospitality toward migrants and have said they are not equipped to provide extra shelter space. The commissioners of Douglas County, south of Denver, passed a resolution demanding that Denver publicly renounce its sanctuary city status, which protects undocumented migrants in some ways from being handed over to federal immigration authorities.
Denver's mayor says he needs help from D.C. to get migrants off his streets
 
Raddragn said:
One possible deeply hidden reason for the almost frantic behavior 0f some anti- immigrants/anti-abortion individuals may be because of fear that immigrant populations may out-produce them and spur an increase in the racial percentages of non whites. I don't know the current percentages on this, but white women are not producing as many offspring as they did at one time (due to both better methods of contraception and abortion) and the racial balance in the US is shifting somewhat. A significant percentage of immigrants (particularly those from South of us) are Catholics and don't even use contraception (there's even talk of outlawing contraception). I suspect white supremacists and white supremacist-leaning conservatives don't relish being out-numbered by "inferior races".- hence all the negative hullabaloo against both.
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Agree, that has become very obvious.
 
Raddragn said:
One possible deeply hidden reason for the almost frantic behavior 0f some anti- immigrants/anti-abortion individuals may be because of fear that immigrant populations may out-produce them and spur an increase in the racial percentages of non whites. I don't know the current percentages on this, but white women are not producing as many offspring as they did at one time (due to both better methods of contraception and abortion) and the racial balance in the US is shifting somewhat. A significant percentage of immigrants (particularly those from South of us) are Catholics and don't even use contraception (there's even talk of outlawing contraception). I suspect white supremacists and white supremacist-leaning conservatives don't relish being out-numbered by "inferior races".- hence all the negative hullabaloo against both.
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Now there is prejudice if there ever was one posted. No one until that post has said anything about inferior races.

As for population shift that could happen. Then what?
 
This also falls in with the New Years Prediction Thread:

Eventually the US will be developing the land (desert) between cities in central and northern Mexico. They'll be manufacturing jobs and that will encourage businesses.
They'll be a big crackdown on cartels, possibly military action.
We will need the workers here in the states for the trade that will be happening between countries. Because we're not having children there will be a generation missing to fill that labor.
Still...........someone needs to stick their finger in the dyke.
 
Blessed said:
I live in Texas and am very familiar with the immigrant movement. Everyone seems to think this is a new problem but we have seen this for my entire lifetime. To some, they see only the negative. Yes, there are bad people that come but there are many more that are hard working people seeking a better life for their family.

So many of those we have here, US citizens, are criminal, take advantage of government programs but they do not face outrage we want to place on immigrants. I would trade many US citizens for those that come to our borders to work hard and build a better life. They don't want a hand out, they want to have the oppurtunity to work hard to provide a good life.

We forget all those that came over from Europe, past that Statue of Liberty, worked hard and are part of the American dream.
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As someone who also lives in TX, I completely agree. The Mexican immigrants have basically built our housing and infrastructure and have greatly contributed to our economy. Almost everyone I deal with, from our landscaper to our electrician, are Mexican Americans. Yes, they want to work and they are damn good at what they do.

We just returned from Jacksonville, FL for Christmas, where most of the work force are blue-collar White workers. There was a night-and-day difference between the work ethic there and what we experience here in Dallas.
 
Sure, Water will be like gold. Hard to keep, hard to buy, well, just plain hard for 200,000,000 inhabitants of Texas in the not so far in the future. OK, OK 100,000,000 and they close the borders to America.

Think about it, not being able to find a free mt mile to run your dirt bike on in the great Country of Tjuos.
As Al Michaels once said you just got to wait, be patient and get in the playoffs.
 
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Raddragn said:
It doesn't have to be said out loud to be obvious. All the negativity is pretty telling
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I have to agree there is negativity. The negative outrage by mayors of sanctuary cities concerning the impact on their cities by the influx of illegal immigrants is in the media daily.

As for the inversion of native born to illegal immigrants & population growth I won't live long enough to know what the impact will be. Raddagn what do you anticipate will happen?
 
Work hard, manage Taco joints, build great yard stuff, add tall wooden fences to the city communities, Save and send back to loved ones back home. Gradually add the word love replacing dead to their cellular communications. Slowly begin to leave the Stiletto in the drawer at the apartments.
 
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Negativity? There seem to be two kinds. East Asian immigrants (largely legal) have been criticized, or perhaps more properly, envied, due to their success, and that of their children, in our colleges and universities, as well as high tech industries. Frankly East Asian IQ scores tend to be superior to their White competition which is reflected in the economic and scientific success of their countries of origin.

On the other hand, those streaming across our southern border largely originate in countries of Central America, islands of the Atlantic and Pacific, and countries of Africa, lands that lack the academic and economic success of East Asia. Granted that most, perhaps excluding gang members and drug smugglers, are coming here in search of a better life, but that doesn’t change the nature of their contribution, or lack thereof.

So should we be more positive and welcoming to legal Asian immigrants, than to those from Ecuador, Haiti, and Honduras who demonstrably have much less to contribute to our high tech economy, and possibly take jobs from our Black citizens?
 
I'm the first one to root for the underdog. Some might say I'm a "bleeding heart liberal", or close to it. But the fact of the matter is we simply cannot continue to support the illegals who are crossing the boarder. I feel sorry for them...for what they have witnessed and experienced in their countries. I also understand them wanting to come to America for a better life.

But America hasn't taken proper care of its own citizens in need, not adequately anyway. Too many families, including children, are going to bed hungry every night. Too many are sleeping in tents, under bridges, in cars and park benches because they are homeless. Some of these people actually worked very hard during their lives but "life" gave them an unexpected, raw deal. Too many seniors have to choose between paying rent, buying food and buying their meds.

I've read a few stories about seniors who were displaced to make room for migrants. I don't know if the government is offering some kind of incentive to house them, but there's certainly something very wrong with that picture. The influx is being referred to as the "migrant crisis" by Mayor Adams of NYC. Others who are tasked with accepting the busloads of migrants are saying the same. I know in my city, the city welfare agency gave benefits to people who only spoke Spanish, which was seen as a hindrance to them being able to work.

Residents who needed the same assistance were often denied. I had a friend who worked for the agency and she told me about it. My sister who was on several boards, including the county, told me the same thing. And my brother told me a Hispanic man told him that he was told to come to our city because he could get on welfare.
 
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