UK vinyl sales at the highest level since 1990

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SOURCE: UK vinyl sales at the highest level since 1990

A niche topic, for sure, but thought this was interesting. The swing back toward analog, as opposed to digital, is in full swing. While four fifths of all music is consumed via Streaming these days, that still leaves a lucrative number of sales left over to get a profit. Of those physical options, we have Vinyl, CD, and believe it or not, Cassettes.

I personally buy Vinyl, and it's wild to see something I grew up with replaced by a modern alternative (CD) and then come full circle back as CD sales fell in response to streaming. In the intervening years the analog tech has had to keep its head above water, which clearly it's done.

Who says the old stuff is dead?
 

Yea, Misa was telling me there is a fade to have cassettes again. Wasn't that in the 70's and 80's? I miss the ritual of getting an inexpensive album, putting it on the stereo console, laying down and listening while browsing the creative album cover. :)
 
Yea, Misa was telling me there is a fade to have cassettes again. Wasn't that in the 70's and 80's? I miss the ritual of getting an inexpensive album, putting it on the stereo console, laying down and listening while browsing the creative album cover. :)

I'd say the cost of a vinyl album today is, on average £25 or so. So yeah, not cheap.

Cassettes? Well, they were around after 8-Track died, but honestly I didn't like them - the artwork is smaller than CD! - so to be honest, I see their comeback as a bit of a head scratcher. If I recall, Radiohead had a Cassette only release this year or last.....
 

Maybe we need an 'Album Art' thread, where people can post their favorite 'put the vinyl on and enjoy the art' picks?
A lot of my Jazz Albums have 'liner notes' on the back about the recording and the artist.

Hard to read and get a feeling of the recording, when they are on CD's and Cassettes.
 
I was thinking about buying a vinyl player... still not sure. I wouldn't buy new vinyl, though. One of my favorite places to go is a gigantic vintage/antique/nostalgia mall and there are always thousands of vinyl records from all eras. I never go there without seeing many of my old favorites from my teen and "20s" years. 🎼

Last time I almost bought The Best of Bread and John Prine's Sweet Revenge. Part of me always says "but you can hear them online by streaming!" And then the other part says "yeah, but it's just not the same." Not sure which part will win. 🎶
 
On a fixed income and just making it now, so it will be YouTube video's for me. Can't go back...unless a $$$$miracle happens. Anyway, my Dad threw away all the albums I bought during the 60's when I went into the service and he moved. Threw out the trophies and medals I won playing baseball also. I must have had 60 albums. I couldn't believe he would do that. He said, "We didn't have room in the new place." Did it ever cross his mind to tell me about it? I would have payed to have them shipped to Kansas ( where I was living...Wichita ). Another smashing lesson of impermanence!
 
When I was in college, every dorm-dweller had a bulky turntable system, and we liked it! Then vinyl records passed on to cassettes, that’s the way it was, and we liked it! Then cassettes were replaced by even more costly CD systems, and we liked it, we loved it! Then everything became a digital download listened to on a tiny device, and we liked it!

I only wish that I hadn’t disposed of my once large collection of vinyl records at yard sale prices since they’re coming back at premium prices…I don’t like having done that at all! 😩

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When I was in college, every dorm-dweller had a bulky turntable system, and we liked it! Then vinyl records passed on to cassettes, that’s the way it was, and we liked it! Then cassettes were replaced by even more costly CD systems, and we liked it, we loved it! Then everything became a digital download listened to on a tiny device, and we liked it!

I only wish that I hadn’t disposed of my once large collection of vinyl records at yard sale prices since they’re coming back at premium prices…I don’t like having done that at all! 😩

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As someone who listens to music every single day, I don't stream. I understand all the benefits, of course, cost being a primary one. I also have my PC hooked up to my hi-fi amp, so sound quality would be terrific. However, I just didn't like the streaming experience. I think humans work best within some kind of constraint, and streaming takes away the constraint of only owning certain titles, and I found it bewildering.

Plus, I've got a lifetime of a collection, so have so much to choose from without Streaming. I certainly get why people like streaming so much though.
 
I only wish that I hadn’t disposed of my once large collection of vinyl records at yard sale prices since they’re coming back at premium prices…I don’t like having done that at all! 😩
I tried to sell mine... couldn't even get those yard sale prices because "no one listens to RECORDS any longer!" Ended up taking them to the landfill when I moved 'cause I couldn't even give them away. 🥺 Oh the pain, the pain. (Dr. Smith, Lost in Space)
 
My son is a deejay and has several friends who are also DJs. Some of them were/are on an internet radio station (with audio, visual and chat capabilities) and they spin vinyl. He was a part of the roster until a couple of years ago. He and his constituents did an all vinyl "Old Schooler's Ball" a few years back and it was off the hook! Three generations enjoyed dancing to multi genre sets that night. My son says there is nothing like vinyl although now when he deejays an event, he mostly uses his computer set up because of course it's easier to transport. He still loves going record shopping though. There seems to be a resurgence of record shops in our area too.

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You may want to look into it deeper. Almost all music production today uses analog to digital encoding before storage, editing, and processing. Virtually 100% of pressing master creation is done from digital storage - and that include nearly all re-releases of classic records.

There may be truly analog "artisan" exceptions, but vinyl records today are basically a scam unless you are playing near-new-old-stock analog records from decades ago.

P. T. Barnum must be having a jolly old laugh down there.

But there are those album covers and their art, the nostalgia factor, esthetics in general, and classic analog pressings in vinyl or shellac.
 
The sound difference between vinyl and digital is debatable. There's is a lot of nostalgia with vinyl, and it's album art.
Vinyl does have an Achilles' heel, playing songs deteriorates the sound over time. If you don't mind the pops, clips, and wows, who cares?
You may want to look into it deeper. Almost all music production today uses analog to digital encoding before storage, editing, and processing. Virtually 100% of pressing master creation is done from digital storage - and that include nearly all re-releases of classic records.

There may be truly analog "artisan" exceptions, but vinyl records today are basically a scam unless you are playing near-new-old-stock analog records from decades ago.

P. T. Barnum must be having a jolly old laugh down there.

But there are those album covers and their art, the nostalgia factor, esthetics in general, and classic analog pressings in vinyl or shellac.

My belief, based on my experience, is that in reality there is no discernible difference in sound quality between CD (digital) and Vinyl. BUT - they're not the same.

There are a lot of bits and pieces that go into making and releasing music today, and as @dilettante mentions, it's unthinkable at this point to make an album where it doesn't go down to digital somewhere in the chain. People wanting an "all analog" experience are not only exhibiting wishful thinking, but when they can get it they're paying through the nose for it. I'm talking 5X normal album prices.

So if there's no discernible difference, how are they not the same? Well, there is one vital step in the process that goes beyond the quality of the recording and even musicianship - the mastering. Vinyl has a lot of constraints. For example, the more heavy the bass, the less music you'll get on a side. The outer tracks (the 1st, 2nd, tracks) have a better bass response than the inner (last) tracks. Then of course, you have the overall constraint of approx 25 minutes per side. Exceed that, and quality drops off.

Digital has none of these constraints. It was a brave new world without constraints other than a (at first) 74 minute running time per CD, later extended to 80+ minutes. CD's doesn't have to worry about grooves, and physicality. We should all have benefited greatly from this, but we didn't. :(

Anyone who follows music will have heard of the "Loudness Wars". Essentially, instead of bathing in the greater dynamic range digital offers, the industry went the other way and reduced it. Why? Because by compressing the music it can, at first, sound my dynamic, impactful, and energized. This is great on your Smartphone, but from an audiophile perspective, you're actually damaging the music.

You cannot use the same level of compression on Vinyl. If they pressed those masters that had been highly compressed, the record would skip and jump.

So, when it comes to any release - you MIGHT get a good digital release (streaming/CD), or more likely, you'll get a compressed master. On Vinyl, it'll be a quieter, less compressed master through necessity. This is the reason buying Vinyl today is the better option if you want the very best sound. I don't think Vinyl is inherently better, but the reality is, Producers and Mastering Engineers have helped destroy the digital experience.

That said, some music is a better experience in digital. I'm thinking of Brian Eno's Ambient works. In fact, any piece of music that uses silence as an intrinsic part of the experience.
 
SOURCE: UK vinyl sales at the highest level since 1990

A niche topic, for sure, but thought this was interesting. The swing back toward analog, as opposed to digital, is in full swing. While four fifths of all music is consumed via Streaming these days, that still leaves a lucrative number of sales left over to get a profit. Of those physical options, we have Vinyl, CD, and believe it or not, Cassettes.

I personally buy Vinyl, and it's wild to see something I grew up with replaced by a modern alternative (CD) and then come full circle back as CD sales fell in response to streaming. In the intervening years the analog tech has had to keep its head above water, which clearly it's done.

Who says the old stuff is dead?
Just like my old (1947) MG car, there are some things worth keeping. My vinyl collection predates the 60's, a decade much loved for it's music revolution by baby-boomers. My records are from an era that has been described as "Swing." To play my 45's my wife treated me to the ultimate record player, one that has a one hundred record selection and this is it.
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Just like my old (1947) MG car, there are some things worth keeping. My vinyl collection predates the 60's, a decade much loved for it's music revolution by baby-boomers. My records are from an era that has been described as "Swing." To play my 45's my wife treated me to the ultimate record player, one that has a one hundred record selection and this is it.
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I want to "Like" this post twice! :D
 
I have several dozen vinyl AOR LPs from the late 1960's through 1980s, collecting dust. Also have a high quality turntable to play them on, also just collecting dust. Also have various hi fi stereo gear from that old era collecting dust, I never use anymore. During a period I did collect a few CDs and made some cassette tapes...more dust. All that stuff will some day be hauled off to a land fill. Some interesting used old rock album covers, collectors might value, however relative chump change.

As someone always confined to living in apartment rentals, it was impossible without annoying adjacent other units, to play rock music on stereo equipment on speakers loudly, the only way I preferred so all that was a waste. When I do listen to FM radio it is while driving long distances that helps keep me awake. I greatly prefer live music, especially to freestyle dance to.

When the Naptster digital copying piracy era arose, I was one of the few that refused to join the majority that did so while blurting out "everyone's doing it, so it must be ok." After I purchased a Sandisk Sansa MP3 player about 2008, I loaded the Audacity program onto my desktop and began copying rock music from online radio broadcasts at my stereo equipment analog outputs then converted into mp3 formats. Also made analog output copies from my vinyl records. Also some online Youtube analog outputs from my desktop computer. All these just for personal use so very much legal. Audacity is a complex tool most would find too difficult. Note, I do have a very few legally purchased digital songs.

For most of my adult life beyond my 20s, have not been one to at home listen to radio stations, or play recorded music, or have a tv on. Instead I prefer quiet so I can think. More often have been reading, studying, and or researching, watching science and technology. In my senior era, when I do listen to music other than live music, it is outdoors usually with the tiny MP3 player using modest earbuds so not high fidelity though not an issue personally for my interests. I love listening to earbuds while urban street walking miles for exercise.
 


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