Seven Children Shot Outside Of A Mall In Indianapolis

every saturday matinee in Uk on the 50's used to enjoy the saturday matinees with the b/w gun battles against the injuns and anyone else with John Wayne at the head of it all - please forgive me for enjoying them all and to where they have lead today - seriously though no joking!!
 
The shooting took place around 11:30 at night 4 hours after that mall closed. What the heck are young teens doing out at that hour. What the heck are teens doing at a closed mall. They should've been moved along by security or the police for loitering by 10:00. An epic fail for the parents if these kids have one. Which also means someone knew where to find them to settle a beef.
 
The shooting took place around 11:30 at night 4 hours after that mall closed. What the heck are young teens doing out at that hour. What the heck are teens doing at a closed mall. They should've been moved along by security or the police for loitering by 10:00. An epic fail for the parents if these kids have one. Which also means someone knew where to find them to settle a beef.
So we are going to blame the kids ?
What are the kids doing at a mall? Being kids!
I can remember hanging out at the mall many times. It’s normally a safe place to hang out. Let’s not make the kids the problem.
 
So we are going to blame the kids ?
What are the kids doing at a mall? Being kids!
I can remember hanging out at the mall many times. It’s normally a safe place to hang out. Let’s not make the kids the problem.
You hung out at a mall outside 4 hours after closing?
 
You hung out at a mall outside 4 hours after closing?
Didn’t the Mall close at 10:00? Thats 1 1/2 hours after closing. The Mall I hung out at was open 24/7. It had a huge cinema in it with 4 or 5 movie theatres. There were pubs in it that stayed open until 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. There were always teenagers hanging out.

Note: I just read it and it was on a Saturday. The area which this happened was at the entertainment centre of the Mall with 35 police officers just outside.

Most parents were happy that there was a safe place to hang out. This shooting took place due to an argument . One of the argument participants decided to pull out a gun and shoot the other as well as friends nearby. If there was NO gun, this couldn’t have happened.
 
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Teenagers these days seem to be lost for the most part. Why I wonder? Is it that they don't have the feeling of having an optimistic future? They don't have any plans for being part of our society in a constructive way? Yes, I think there is a malaise that has that generation in it's grasp. I don't see the institutions in our society reaching out to give guidance to these kids. What are they supposed to do? Where are they supposed to go? These questions plague our young people. I don't see anything being done to help them...what am I missing?
 
The NRA said gun owners were responsible gun owners. So, I can only assume that the shooters were "standing their ground". And, of course, it's laughable that the US has a gun culture. It's just mere coincidence how some people attract bullets.
 
The shooting took place around 11:30 at night 4 hours after that mall closed. What the heck are young teens doing out at that hour. What the heck are teens doing at a closed mall. They should've been moved along by security or the police for loitering by 10:00. An epic fail for the parents if these kids have one. Which also means someone knew where to find them to settle a beef.
what on earth was a child of 12 years old doing hanging around outside a mall at almost midnight... ?.. clearly parents who let them run wild... there's no good comes of hanging about in the streets after dark...
 
The shooting took place around 11:30 at night 4 hours after that mall closed. What the heck are young teens doing out at that hour. What the heck are teens doing at a closed mall. They should've been moved along by security or the police for loitering by 10:00. An epic fail for the parents if these kids have one. Which also means someone knew where to find them to settle a beef.
That was my though also. Where were the parents???????????/
 
First kids' hangout, they tell the parents they are staying at a friend's place. It's what they do, they are getting ready to move on. 150 years ago teens were done with 6th grade and leaving to go west young man. Many of these kids live the streets and hop from one place to stay to another.

Maybe remembering that in the revolutionary war era kids were servitude, apprenticed, worked like slaves for pittance.

U know, they can't stand it around home, if you can actually identify it as a good home. The second place is there is no fix for the sick mind. They are just crazy. They just do awful stuff, some real bad, or just tip a car upside down.

There is no fix for crazy, just like Ron White said there is no fix for Stupid. Stupid is Stupid, no pill you can take. Stupid is Fo- Evah!

Question young teens reasoning but first get honesty from the Elder elected officials, ones who proven Liars are they?
 
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The NRA said gun owners were responsible gun owners. So, I can only assume that the shooters were "standing their ground". And, of course, it's laughable that the US has a gun culture. It's just mere coincidence how some people attract bullets.
I'm positively sure these were responsible NRA members.
 
the yankies have their own "psychis" as do the Ozzies and Canucks are everyone else - we can all place an image on the silver screen or the News Highlights?? - but loving guns and owning guns and using guns - ya gotta be crazy heh??
 
So we are going to blame the kids ?
What are the kids doing at a mall? Being kids!
I can remember hanging out at the mall many times. It’s normally a safe place to hang out. Let’s not make the kids the problem.
For me, it's not a matter of blaming the children but yes, WTH is a 12 year old doing out that time of night, at a mall no less?! Unless he/she was tagging along with an older sibling. If not, that's a parental problem. When we were that age, we had better be our houses when the street lights went out...in fact before that. We had enough respect and healthy fear of our parents not to want to find out what would happen if we weren't. These days, children get too much freedom, to talk to their parents any way they want...to do what they want and look what's happening! We are seeing terrible problems with young people that we never saw when I was young.
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For me, it's not a matter of blaming the children but yes, WTH is a 12 year old doing out that time of night, at a mall no less?! Unless he/she was tagging along with an older sibling. If not, that's a parental problem. When we were that age, we had better be our houses when the street lights went out...in fact before that. We had enough respect and healthy fear of our parents not to want to find out what would happen if we weren't. These days, children get too much freedom, to talk to their parents any way they want...to do what they want and look what's happening! We are seeing terrible problems with young people that we never saw when I was young.
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Well, when I was 12 was the year my parents bought a cottage and they’d often leave us home on our own. We would party every weekend and my parents knew. We’d also sometimes do gigs at the mall with the stage band we were in and go to the bars ( restaurants)afterwards for drinks and some food. That started when I was 13. Sometimes we went with our parents but most times they went by themselves.

I’m not a psychologist so can’t claim my parents as narcissists but they did do whatever they wanted to do and being without us was one of those things. As long as we didn’t burn the house down, we were good. They even found our hot knives and we got in trouble but they ‘d still leave every weekend.

Having said all that, we didn’t have the gun culture the U.S. has so the idea of someone getting up and shooting us after an argument wasn’t even imaginable. Maybe the fear would have been greater then.
Note: that statement wasn’t meant to be a jab. It’s stated because that ‘was’ our reality back then. Malls were safe places to hang out at the time. They were probably safer in your country also back then.

They trusted my older brother so if he was with us, all was good. My parents liked being alone so out of sight, out of mind. Our neighbours felt quite differently. My best friends mother would come and get her sometime after 11.

Being home doing whatever we wanted was the norm for us on weekends. Even after my brother split my head open, ( had to get stitches) they still left. He only meant to scare me but it got out of hand. My parents weren’t like most parents.
 
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Well, when I was 12 was the year my parents bought a cottage and they’d often leave us home on our own. We would party every weekend and my parents knew. We’d also play sometimes do gigs at the mall with the stage band we were in and go to the bars afterwards for drinks. That started when I was 13. Sometimes we went with our parents but most times they went by themselves.

I’m not a psychologist so can’t claim my parents as narcissists but they did do whatever they wanted to do and being without us was one of those things. As long as we didn’t burn the house down, we were good. They even found our hot knives and we got in trouble but they ‘d still leave every weekend.

Having said all that, we didn’t have the gun culture the U.S. has so the idea of someone getting up and shooting us after an argument wasn’t even imaginable. Maybe the fear would have been greater then.
Note: that statement wasn’t meant to be a jab. It’s stated because that ‘was’ our reality back then. Malls were safe places to hang out at the time. They were probably safer in your country also back then.

They trusted my older brother so if he was with us, all was good. My parents liked being alone so out of sight, out of mind. Our neighbours felt quite differently. My best friends mother would come and get her sometime after 11.

Being home doing whatever we wanted was the norm for us on weekends. Even after my brother split my head open, they still left. He only meant to scare me but it got out of hand.
My parents weren’t like most parents.
You pointed out something else that's important. Times have changed. Things it was safe to do and places that were safe to go to back then may be unsafe now. Your being in a bar that young made me think of when I was a little girl, my father took me to a bar that had a little monkey toy playing drums. What you experienced sounds fun and sad at the same time. Today's parents who leave their children alone to the degree your parents did may be subject to review by Division of Youth and Family Services (if reported), unless the older brother is the age of majority (considered an adult). Was yours?

I was a sheltered child and so was my my son until he was about 16. He started his professional deejay career at 15 in a local bar. I always went with him. Patty..what are hot knives?
 
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You pointed out something else that's important. Times have changed. Things it was safe to do and places that were safe to go to back then may be unsafe now. Your being in a bar that young made me think of when I was a little girl, my father took me to a bar that had a little monkey toy playing drums. What you experienced sounds fun and sad at the same time. Today's parents who leave their children alone to the degree your parents did may be subject to review by Division of Youth and Family Services these days (if reported), unless the older brother is the age of majority (considered an adult). Was yours?

I was a sheltered child and so was my my son until he was about 16. He started his professional deejay career at 15 in a local bar. I always went with him. Patty..what are hot knives?
Yes, things were very different back then. A twelve year old kid shouldn’t have been out at a mall but the most obvious fault is the kid with a gun. If he had no gun, seven children wouldn’t have been injured.

My parents weren’t your typical parents. We were clothed and had no lack of good food. We had a roof over our head too so I have no complaints about that. Social services were called at times as well as the police but it never changed the outcome. Note: I protected my family by lying.

When I was a young teenage, I hung out with my brothers. At that time, I had two of them. I lost one of them a few years later. He got run over by a truck.

When our stage band did play in malls, others would offer to buy me drinks but I wasn’t really a drinker back then. Most of my drinking was done when I left home at 16.

Hot knives are used to smoke hash. You leave the knives on the stove to heat up the harsh, then inhale the smoke. My parents found the knives we thought we’d hidden but even then my brothers didn’t really get into trouble. They were 2 and 4 years older than me. They trusted my older brother completely.

Who is to say why someone needed to take a gun to the mall. To me, that’s the biggest question.
 
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Yes, things were very different back then. A twelve year old kid shouldn’t have been out at a mall but the most obvious fault is the kid with a gun. If he had no gun, seven children wouldn’t have been injured.

My parents weren’t your typical parents. We were clothed and had no lack of good food. We had a roof over our head too so I have no complaints about that. Social services were called at times as well as the police but it never changed the outcome. Note: I protected my family by lying.

When I was a young teenage, I hung out with my brothers. At that time, I had two of them. I lost one of them a few years later. He got run over by a truck.

When our stage band did play in malls, others would offer to buy me drinks but I wasn’t really a drinker back then. Most of my drinking was done when I left home at 16.

Hot knives are used to smoke hash. You leave the knives on the stove to heat up the harsh, then inhale the smoke. My parents found the knives we thought we’d hidden but even then my brothers didn’t really get into trouble. They were 2 and 4 years older than me. They trusted my older brother completely.

Who is to say why someone needed to take a gun to the mall. To me, that’s the biggest question.
Well those who choose to solve their issues by shooting are always going to be at fault, no doubt. I'm sorry to read about the tragic way you lost one of your brothers. That must've been devastating for the entire family. :cry: I think lying to protect your family was a natural reaction for a young person. Even those who have the most abusive parents have been known to do it. About the hot knives...LOL. Can tell I wasn't into drugs, huh. You left home at a very young age. Seems you've had an interesting life Patty.
 


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