Trumps big mouth cost him bigtime

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[h=1]NBC Cutting Ties to Donald Trump Over ‘Derogatory’ Remarks About Immigration[/h]yahoo.com/tv/nbc-cutting-ties-to-donald-trump-over-derogatory-122779736580.html
Variety June 29, 2015
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By Cynthia Littleton
NBC is ending its long relationship with Donald Trump in the wake of the presidential hopeful’s recent comments about Mexican immigrants.
NBC said it will no longer carry the Trump-produced Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants. Nor will he return to host “Celebrity Apprentice.”
In a statement, NBC said:
At NBC, respect and dignity for all people are cornerstones of our values.
Due to the recent derogatory statements by Donald Trump regarding immigrants, NBCUniversal is ending its business relationship with Mr. Trump.
To that end, the annual Miss USA and Miss Universe Pageants, which are part of a joint venture between NBC and Trump, will no longer air on NBC .
In addition, as Mr. Trump has already indicated, he will not be participating in “The Celebrity Apprentice” on NBC.
“Celebrity Apprentice” is licensed from Mark Burnett’s United Artists Media Group and that relationship will continue.
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Editor’s note: This post was updated by a Yahoo TV editor on June 29
 

Trump's big mouth is only exceeded by his big ego. Even a megalomaniac like Trump has to know that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected. He's just having fun and he can afford to have this kind of fun. The rest of us have to save up and go to Disney World to be in la-la-land.
 

jujube said:
Trump's big mouth is only exceeded by his big ego. Even a megalomaniac like Trump has to know that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected. He's just having fun and he can afford to have this kind of fun. The rest of us have to save up and go to Disney World to be in la-la-land.
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I agree, but this time his "fun" costs him bigtime.
 
I think he's disgusting, period. Always have. Guess I'm going to do a lot of channel changing when his ugly mop face comes on campaigning.
 
I haven't heard specifically what Trump said about Mexican immigrants, but I can't imagine that a billionaire republican would say anything bad about an easily exploited group[ie:undocumented workers] that's typically a source of cheap labor. He should be practicing his Spanish, Jeb has an edge on him in that regard; maybe they can make a ploy for the Hispanic vote and do a debate en espanol.
 
Josiah said:
Gosh I just hope The Donald will stay in the GOP primary race right up to the convention. I can just picture Trump and Christie exchanging insults in a series of primary debates. Oh my it will be fun.
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I don't know if I agree, should presidential elections really be a circus side-show?
 
Josiah said:
Gosh I just hope The Donald will stay in the GOP primary race right up to the convention. I can just picture Trump and Christie exchanging insults in a series of primary debates. Oh my it will be fun.
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Josh - I was going to say exactly the same thing! You beat me to it! I so hope Trump stays in. It's so much fun to watch this clown!:yes:
 
SeaBreeze said:
I don't know if I agree, should presidential elections really be a circus side-show?
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The Republican party is totally beholden to their base, a subset of the electorate made up chiefly of angry white men (and their wives) who feel that their way of life is endangered by the people who are not just like them. This Republican base has a penchant for supporting any clown candidate who can pump up their level of rage and the Donald is pretty good at that. If this is how the Republican party works then they deserve what they get...clown candidates with enormous financial backing by the 1%ers....a formidable foe.
 
It is unfortunate that this great republic is being looked at as a joke because of those that want to be our leader...
 
Never took Trump seriously as a presidential candidate. I heard he hasn't even filed the official paper work yet which isn't due until the end of July.

He's trying to hit a raw nerve which he did, he was wrong the way he did it. But the same network that fired him is the same network the has the likes of Sharpton or was the home Keith Oberman /worst person in the world/ GW is an idiot show. If nothing else he should have accompanied his statements with some statistics and stories which are readily available to himself & staff.

Trump is just another of the Republicant throwing rhetoric around instead of ideas and legislation that actually stands a chance.
 
The reason the Republican primary is a circus clown show is because of who votes in the Republican primary.. the base loves to hear this crazy mean spirited bigoted talk.. It lights them up.. If all the candidates would stop playing to the knuckle draggers and play to the majority of "Normal" people then it wouldn't be this way.. Donald and the rest say what they say because they believe it will help them win the Primary.. If they would all just stop it.. this side-show atmosphere would stop and the crazies would have to either vote or stay home.
 
America Ferrara thanks Donald Trump for energizing the latino base to get out and vote in the elections. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/america-ferrera/thank-you-donald-trump_b_7709126.html


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You see, what you just did with your straight talk was send more Latino voters to the polls than several registration rallies combined! Thank you for that. Here we are pounding the pavement to get American Latinos to the polls, while your tactic proves most effective.

Remarks like yours will serve brilliantly to energize Latino voters and increase turnout on election day against you and any other candidate who runs on a platform of hateful rhetoric.

Do you know why that's such a big deal, Donald? Because Latinos are the largest, youngest and fastest-growing constituency in the United States of America. That's right! You are running for President in a country where the Latino population grew by over 49 percent from 2000-2012, while the rest of the country grew by 5.8 percent. What's more, we are the future. The medican age of the average Latino is 27 years old, compared to 42 years old for white Americans. In case you need a translation, that means there are a whole lot of Americans who are Latino and have the right to vote. And, we're not going anywhere.

This is the America we are actually living in. I hope by now you understand that without the Latino vote, there is no chance of you ever winning this election. If you don't believe me, you could ask President Bush or you could even ask President Obama.

You, Mr. Trump, are living in an outdated fantasy of a bigoted America. Last week, America celebrated some amazing milestones -- marriage equality, universal healthcare, removing of the confederate flag -- making it clear in which direction the country is moving. That is why racist remarks that play to extremists won't change the tide, no matter how hard you try. They will only serve to rally more Latino voters to the polls. Your negativity and your poorly thought out speech ignited a fire in our community. Thank you, Mr. Trump!

Thank you for reminding us that there remains an antiquated and endangered species of bigots in this country that we must continue to combat. Thank you for reminding us to not sit complacently at home on election day, but to run to the polls and proclaim that there is no place for your brand of racial politicking in our government. Thank you for sending out the rallying cry.

You have made your thoughts on the Latino community clear and you continue to stand by them. And in return, we will do more than tweet about our indignation and beat piñatas of your likeness. We will silence you at the polls. We will vote and use our growing position in U.S. politics. Our fellow Americans who understand and value our contributions will join us. We know there is nothing that scares you more.

The truth is, Mr. Trump, that your comments mean that you fail to see that immigrants are what have made this nation. They are at the core of our ideals, and they are the foundation that keeps us afloat.

No, Mr. Trump, you may not reduce us to drug dealers and rapists. We are moms and dads, sons and daughters. We are valedictorians and honor students. We are college graduates, bankers, police officers, entertainers, teachers, journalists, politicians and we are the future of America.

Thank you for helping us in our work to energize the Latino vote and to usher in our shared future! Keep it up!

Sincerely,
America

Of Honduran decent, America was born and raised in Los Angeles and received a degree in International Relations from USC. An award winning actress, she is best known for her starring role in the ABC hit Ugly Betty. America is saluted by Congress for raising the profile of Latinos in popular culture, serving as a role model for young Latinas, and working to empower the Latino community.
 
All these pro immigrant groups & people are quick to condemn Trump for legal comments but have yet to condemn the illegal immigrants that come across the border and commit crime, not only stuff like murder & drugs but all the fraud, identity theft, tax evasion etc that many commit to stay here illegally. Both Trump and these pro immigrant types need to be promoting LEGAL immigration and law abiding behavior.
 
What Republicans leaders have to say about Trump, for, in the middle and against. http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/07/06/3676622/donald-trump-republicans-stance/


People defending Trump


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX):Of all the Republican presidential candidates, Cruz has been Trump’s staunchest supporter. On Saturday, Cruz told “Meet The Press”‘ Chuck Todd, “I salute Donald Trump for focusing on the need to address illegal immigration. …The Washington cartel supports amnesty and I think amnesty’s wrong.”
Last week, during an interview with Fox and Friends, Cruz declared, “When it comes to Donald Trump, I like Donald Trump,” adding that he believes “NBC is engaging in political correctness that is silly and that is wrong.” Cruz alsosaid he doesn’t think Trump should apologize for “speaking out against the problem that is illegal immigration.”

Rep. Steve King (R-IA):
King defended Trump’s “scrappiness” last week, reiterating the point that Trump made about Central American children getting raped and sexually assaulted when they cross the southern U.S. border. “I’d say in Donald Trump’s defense, someone’s doing that to these kids that are being raped and abused,” King said. “And, when they’re coming across Mexico, it’s a reasonable assumption to conclude the people doing that are Mexicans.”

Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ):
Just one day after warning a crowd in New Hampshire that they should be wary of “the candidate running for public office who has the quick and easy answer to a complicated problem,” Christienoted that Trump is “a good guy” when asked about whether Trump’s comments are bad for Republicans. Christie stated during a Fox News segment Monday that he was “not personally offended” by the comments and that he would know how to handle such situations since he had won 51 percent of the Hispanic vote in his 2013 election.



People with mixed feelings about Trump


The Republican National Committee:
Hours after Trump made the initial statement, Republican National Committee Director Sean Spicer said his statements were “not helpful to the cause” of making the Republican party inclusive to Latino voters. Party officials have not offered an official apology.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY):
According to CNN, when asked about Trump’s statements over the weekend, Paul said, “I don’t know what he’s been saying, but uh, he apparently is drawing a lot of attention.”

Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA):
Santorum took issue with the way Trump phrased his comments, but stood up for the points that he raised. “While I don’t like the verbiage he’s used, I like the fact that he is focused on a very important issue for American workers and particularly, legal immigrants in this country,” Santorum said on CBS’ “Face The Nation” on Sunday.

Gov. Bobby [Piyush] Jindal (R-LA):
It’s unclear exactly where Jindal lands on the specific points raised by Trump. “I don’t view people as members of ethnic groups or economic groups,” Jindal said during the Fourth of July picnic attended by Bush and other Republican presidential candidates, according to an ABC affiliate. “This president has done too much to divide us, so obviously I disagree with [Trump’s] comments. I think we need to look at people as individuals.”



People condemning Trump


Former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL):
During a Fourth of July picnic in New Hampshire, Bush told the New York Times that he “absolutely” took Trump’s remarks personally, given his family ties. Bush’s wife, Columba, is from Mexico and their children have been raised to celebrate their multicultural roots. Bush said that Trump is “not a stupid guy, so I don’t assume he thinks that every Mexican crossing the border is a rapist. He’s doing this to inflame and incite and to draw attention, which seems to be the organizing principle of his campaign.”
Last week, Bush told an audience in Spanish that Trump’s comments don’t “represent the values of the Republican Party,” Island Packet reported. But in English, Bush reportedly gave a “milder version,” stating, “I don’t agree with him. I think he’s wrong. It’s pretty simple.”

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL):
Rubio condemned the real estate mogul’s comments in a statement released last week. “Trump’s comments are not just offensive and inaccurate, but also divisive,” Rubio wrote. “Our next president needs to be someone who brings Americans together — not someone who continues to divide. Our broken immigration system is something that needs to be solved, and comments like this move us further from — not closer to — a solution.”

Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX):
During an interview with ABC’s This Week on Sunday, Perry said he was “offended” by Donald Trump’s remarks, adding, “I mean he’s going to have to defend those remarks. I never will. And I will stand up and say that those are offensive, which they were.”
In response, Trump tweeted that Perry “failed at the border. Now he is critical of me. He needs a new pair of glasses to see the crimes committed by illegal immigrants.”
Just last year, Perry made similar inflammatory remarks, telling Glenn Beck in an interview that there had been “over 3,000 homicides by illegal aliens over the course of the last six years.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC):
Graham stated in a Boston Herald Radio interview posted on Monday that Trump’s comments were not “helping the cause” and were “hurtful and not helpful” since most of the 11 million undocumented immigrants are “hardworking decent people.”
“It’s incumbent on the rest of us to say, hey no that’s not the Republican party that I want,” Graham added.

Former Gov. George Pataki (R-NY):
Pataki, a largely unknown GOP candidate, appears to be hoping that his stance on Trump might help get him noticed in a crowded field. In a letter asking other Republican presidential candidates to denounce Trump’s “unacceptable” remarks, Pataki wrote, “Stand up for our party, for the ideals that made America great, and stand for the basic decency and integrity entitled to every American, no matter their heritage or nationality.”

Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney (R):
“I think he made a severe error in saying what he did about Mexican-Americans,” Romney said on Saturday, during the same Fourth of July picnic attended by Jindal and Bush. Romney’s father is Mexican, though the former presidential candidate previously promised to make life so miserable that undocumented immigrants would "self-deport".
 
If folks would really listen and read with open minds you will find that most really have no problems with Mexican immigrants. What most folks are complaining about are the thousands of illegal immigrants from where ever and want our borders properly closed to only those with permits to visit the US. I have visited Mexico and our visits are limited for certain miles and I believe for three days at a time for each visit. Similar should happen at our borders and then make sure they only stay for the permitted areas and limited days. What has been happening along our borders are the patrols have been held back from the borders and hundreds are getting through with no restraints. Then for many, especially the children, they will walk a ways and then sit down and wait to be picked up by the patrols. This way they get put into shelters, fed, medical treatment if needed, and eventually will get allowed to stay in the US as we do not just dump children or older into the desert and say good bye. Once in, even the bad folks do get hearings to determine who they are and such. This is the main trouble for most folks is the allowing thousands to enter and then we don't just toss them out. We need to stop this illegal crossing stuff and convince them to come to the US with papers of permission. Those papers can't be that hard to get as we always seem to have large groups celebrating their success in getting citizenship papers. But many thousands of the illegals have lived here for years and still not citizens. The do seem to be hard workers but would get paid better if actually citizens.
 
As usual... a whole boat load of fear mongering and racism.

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/ju...etting-record-straight-immigrants-and-crime-0

Anti-immigrant activists and politicians are fond of relying upon anecdotes to support their oft-repeated claim that immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants, are dangerous criminals. This mythical claim is usually based on rhetorical sleight of hand in which individual stories of heinous crimes committed by immigrants are presented as “proof” that we must restrict immigration or “get tough” on the undocumented in order to save the lives of U.S. citizens. While these kinds of arguments are emotionally powerful, they are intellectually dishonest. There is no doubt that dangerous criminals must be punished, and that immigrants who are dangerous criminals should not be allowed to enter the United States or should be deported if they already are here. But harsh immigration policies are not effective in fighting crime because—as numerous studies over the past 100 years have shown—immigrants are less likely to commit crimes or be behind bars than the native-born, and high rates of immigration are not associated with higher rates of crime. This holds true for both legal immigrants and the undocumented, regardless of their country of origin or level of education.
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QuickSilver said:
As usual... a whole boat load of fear mongering and racism.

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/ju...etting-record-straight-immigrants-and-crime-0
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All this totally ignores the fact that we should not have so many illegal folks in the US whether innocent or guilty of crimes.

They live off the benefits of emergency medical help, police support, schools for children, paid for by legal residents. Their wages are likely less than normal as they are not citizens and employers don't want to pay for supporting illegals. Often admitted by some illegal workers, they claim many dependents when filing to jobs so the tax take outs are much smaller.

One solution would be to bring back what at one time was good for the US and the workers. Bring back the seasonal part time workers for anywhere in the US. At one time it was known as the Bracero program. They come as known guests to the US. The must leave after a certain number of months and return to their home country. Then after a specified period of time they would be welcome to return for another spell of working. I believe there is some sort of temporary worker program but it doesn't seem to doing much for holding down the illegal entry efforts.

It is the illegal entry that has most folks upset and the failure of the government to do anything about it does not help. Fighting crime is but a part of the problem with illegal entries. Our generous system insists on taking care of them even though they are illegal.
 

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