There Will Always Be Poor People

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Shalimar said:
I suspect that it is not our liberal friends driven to distraction here, but rather our Captains Of Blame, aficionados of Ayn Randian sociopathy, forever sailing The Good Ship Self-Righteous round and around and around, the same stagnant, self-serving mud puddle. Targeting the many for the sins of the few, how democratic. Mental masturbation at it's finest.
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When I was a child I learned that when someone doesn't have the facts to support themselves they change the subject and resort to name calling. It didn't take long did it? And look at the frenzy of adjectives.
 
Skyking said:
In the states it's the same way and some, perhaps many, buy sell and trade them for illegal purposes not intended like drugs, alcohol and smokes. It's a big business and this is the stuff that drives some of our more liberal friends crazy, it makes their Kool-Aid bitter. Drives them into a frenzy. :)
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Skyking said:
When I was a child I learned that when someone doesn't have the facts to support themselves they change the subject and resort to name calling. It didn't take long did it? And look at the frenzy of adjectives.
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sorta like this? :laugh: Are you actually stating FACTS or just more Right Wing rhetoric as propaganda.
 

Excuse me, SkyKing, but I was not personally targeting you or any other Poster on this thread. The truly unkind comments on this thread have been directed toward the poor, and the stubborn insistence that they are primarily, in most cases, the arbiters of,their own misfortune. Those that advocate this miissperception, have been treated far less harshly than the individuals they are throwing under the bus for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. I was expressing my opinion through satirical humour, Canadians are prone to that. I used descriptive, perhaps as a poet, lyrical adjectives, but hardly frenzied ones. Nor was I changing the subject. Life is a metaphor, after all.
 
QuickSilver said:
sorta like this? :laugh: Are you actually stating FACTS or just more Right Wing rhetoric as propaganda.
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And what is so funny about Skyking's honest and truthful comments. OK, for those helpless and hopeless ones, it will be my turn now for a brainless backlash attack.
 
What brainless backlash attack has occurred here? Perhaps I missed it. I sincerely hope, Bob, that you are not suggesting that either QS or myself are lacking in intelligence. That would be name calling.
 
QuickSilver said:
Oh stop.... you're old news, and always predictable.
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Absolutely. Part of my membership here is that I get to post my honest ideas just the same as you folks. But you folks just never allow others the same freedoms that you claim to be your only. Grow up and get a life.
 
BobF said:
Absolutely. Part of my membership here is that I get to post my honest ideas just the same as you folks. But you folks just never allow others the same freedoms that you claim to be your only. Grow up and get a life.
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Has someone told you that you were not allowed to post? OR is it just that you don't like to have your views disputed... Oh.. and that last sentence.... was that REALLY necessary?
 
Shalimar said:
What brainless backlash attack has occurred here? Perhaps I missed it. I sincerely hope, Bob, that you are not suggesting that either QS or myself are lacking in intelligence. That would be name calling.
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Just my response to folks like QS who always puts down those that disagree with her ideas. It is a bad habit of hers to put down all but her very own imitators.

There is the freedom of our societies to think differently, legally, and for reasons. It does not mean that those that disagree are hateful or wrong and need punished by direct or indirect put down comments. Some on this forum seem to think they have that special power of personal shame over others.
 
BobF said:
Just my response to folks like QS who always puts down those that disagree with her ideas. It is a bad habit of hers to put down all but her very own imitators.

There is the freedom of our societies to think differently, legally, and for reasons. It does not mean that those that disagree are hateful or wrong and need punished by direct or indirect put down comments. Some on this forum seem to think they have that special power of personal shame over others.
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No Bob... I simply disagree... and when anyone disagrees with you.. you think you are being put down or attacked.. Unlike of course what you do.. in telling me to "grow up and get a life" Now THAT is a put down.. You really need to take a look at your posts.. Sounds to me like you are doing a little projection here. In case you don't understand...

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.
 
QuickSilver said:
No Bob... I simply disagree... and when anyone disagrees with you.. you think you are being put down or attacked.. Unlike of course what you do.. in telling me to "grow up and get a life" Now THAT is a put down.. You really need to take a look at your posts.. Sounds to me like you are doing a little projection here. In case you don't understand...

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.
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Disagreement to others is not the problem. It is the fact of personal attacks and not just pure comments that support different ideas. Some seem to prefer to attack the other posters and forget to just use facts without the personal attacks. Which is why I often just do not reply to personal attacks and insults. Keep the responses on topic and not involve other people as is too often happening on this forum.

You lesson in psychology is something like looking in the mirror for yourself.

Have a good day.
 
It seems to me that there is a double standard in place on this thread, where some feel justified in making untoward personal remarks, on a you get what you deserve basis,while, at the same time, decrying any criticism of their points of view as attacks. Surely one rule should apply to us all?
 
Oh Gawd! Who got BobF started? Here we go with another avalanche of of loosely connected thoughts not based upon anymore than one mans opinion.
 
Skyking said:
When I was a child I learned that when someone doesn't have the facts to support themselves they change the subject and resort to name calling. It didn't take long did it? And look at the frenzy of adjectives.
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Wonder if you'd be kind enough to point out the "name calling" you are alleging here "King"?
 
Shalimar said:
It seems to me that there is a double standard in place on this thread, where some feel justified in making untoward personal remarks, on a you get what you deserve basis,while, at the same time, decrying any criticism of their points of view as attacks. Surely one rule should apply to us all?
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Not surprising is it? It seems that Conservatives and the Right can say the nastiest, mean spirited things about large swaths of people and when called on it, accuse the left of attacking or worse yet persecuting them. Happens all the time.
 
QuickSilver said:
Not surprising is it? It seems that Conservatives and the Right can say the nastiest, mean spirited things about large swaths of people and when called on it, accuse the left of attacking or worse yet persecuting them. Happens all the time.
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And who are you to make such a statement. You are a living example to that sort of attitude to others.
 
It seems obvious to me that when those of us who feel compassion for the plight of the poor express our disappointment in the blame the victim mentality (yes most are victims, not lazy, drug addicts, criminals etc.) promoted quite freely on this thread, we get our fingers slapped, verbally speaking. Should we object, we are then targeted as mean-spirited, far-left verbal goons. I have yet to meet any far-left posters on this thread, only moderates. Come to Canada if you wish to see people who are truly socialist in their thinking, ie Green Party. No, I am centre left, not far left. Yet....Lol.
 
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Originally Posted by Skyking In the states it's the same way and some, perhaps many, buy sell and trade them for illegal purposes not intended like drugs, alcohol and smokes. It's a big business and this is the stuff that drives some of our more liberal friends crazy, it makes their Kool-Aid bitter. Drives them into a frenzy. :)

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Originally Posted by Skyking
When I was a child I learned that when someone doesn't have the facts to support themselves they change the subject and resort to name calling. It didn't take long did it? And look at the frenzy of adjectives.



sorta like this? :laugh: Are you actually stating FACTS or just more Right Wing rhetoric as propaganda.



QS you have taken two separate replies, one an answer to a question about food stamps, and another after a hard core frenzied attack on "we" who think differently than you and displayed them without context. But as a fellow mid westerner I'll keep it simple, "if the shoe fits, wear it" Let the readers read it in context of the thread (not your editing) and make up their own minds.
 

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