Question for our UK members --- "Is Harry Really Returning"?

Brookswood said:
Not sure it’s vitriol. More just plain ordinary disgust with a person who travels to another country, then takes a lot of money to tell a story that trashes his family. What ever happened to not publicly airing family disputes?

We seem to be letting anybody into the country these days.
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Some of it on social media, sometimes fuelled by clickbait articles, is outright vitriolic. Especially toward Meghan.
 
A few months ago there was discussion afoot about whether on not Harry would even be allowed to legally stay in the good ole U.S.A. ... never heard what became of all that though. Concerns were raised about possible past drug use I think and failure to disclose that information on his visa documentation.

Harry first openly discussed a potential change to his citizenship status during an interview with Good Morning America in February 2024.
Though he said he didn't feel American, when asked if he'd considered becoming a citizen he responded: "I have considered it, yeah."

If Harry were to seriously make moves to become a U.S. citizen, it could raise some awkward complications back in Britain. Chiefly, to become a citizen, applicants must swear an oath of allegiance to the U.S., part of which denounces ties to foreign powers, states and sovereigns.

Meghan is an entertainer/actress. She didn't want any part of the British Monarchy and left England ... dragging Harry with her to the states and all the while screeching drama both real and imagined to any outlet that would listen. So she is again what she was, an entertainer desperate to stay viable in the public eye for greater than 15minutes. Entertainers will do and say whatever it takes to hang on to that 15minutes. At the end of the day, Harry is Meghan's husband and that's about it. Who wears the pants in that relationship is arguable.
 

Pepper said:
I can't board the hate Meghan Hate Train, makes no sense to me.
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the problem with Markle is that she accused the British public & media of being racist towards her when nothing could be further from the truth....she was welcomed in this country with open arms.

She even accused members of the Royal Family of making racist comments regards their son after he was born.....asked to name who it was neither of them would/could although they allowed an irrelevant wee muck raker called Omid Scobbie to write about them and their supposed grievances in a book or two.

Personally I think most of the dislike towards them from the British public was due to their comments about Harry's family and them deciding that they were leaving the UK for good in order to freeload from their American chums. Seriously, they can stay away from here as long as they want.
 
Brookswood said:
Harry is another reason to celebrate Independence Day here in the USA. Now, if the British would only take him back.
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The British don’t seem anxious to get Harry back.

Perhaps if the President agreed to spend a token night in a London dungeon? He might also apologize for the damage done to the English language by spelling words like “harbour” and “colour” without the “u”. Perhaps also throw in a small party in D.C. on the Sovereign’s birthday.
 
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I admired Diana too. How could anyone hate her...and then revere Charles III ? As I mentioned earlier, King Charles threw Diana away soon after he got what he wanted from her...his Heir (William) and his "Spare" as he called Harry on the day of his birth.

Diana carried, delivered, and raised his Heirs she gave him. Then Charles dumped her as soon as he was sure the boys were old enough not to need any attention from Charles and Camilla.

And I don't admire Charles for giving his pedophile brother a nice place to live on the palace grounds. That guy never even went to jail...just a little slap on the hand. Sick. Harry never did anything as bad as that...not even close!
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Those who say they like H & M - could you give a clue what you find likeable about them? ('cos I'm scratching my head).

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A rant....

Most Brits are 'earthy' 'feet on the ground' types, ie we're not into 'celebritydom' like over yonder.
We saw through Meghan quite early on and her effect/change on Harry. I seem to remember Diana expressed worries about Harry at some point in his childhood - maybe he would've always struggled and become a messed up adult - we know the palace always covered up stuff about his antics.

Whether a royalist or not, a lot of our bitterness is from being ripped off and conned by them not to mention a staggering amount of taxpayers money being wasted. 18mths later they buggered off and by all accounts they'd planned it that way. And now, even tho' he lives over there and pays for his security, he wants taxpayers money to fund his security when he visits here (court case in the offing about it).

If he/they had carried on their lives out of the spotlight, I'd have no problem with them. But they didn't. They put themselves out there preaching and complaining globally about their lot and all the rest which I can't be bothered mentioning. They made themselves unlikeable, except to those too young to know any different, or to those who believe they are what they want to project themselves as being.

Harry is a delusional brain addled spoilt Man Child and idiot, fake humanitarian who loves playing the Victim card, amongst other things

- and the equally delusional manipulative control freak fake humanitarian Pushy Claw Woman he's married to, excels in the art of self love and believes she's royalty.

They are clowns in their own circus. They lie and deceive, trash their families at every opportunity and set themselves up as some sort of mental ill health 'guru' (for want of a better word). Neither hold any qualifications in that field (nor any other field come to think of it), which is cause for concern, they're not exactly good role models are they?

All their shenanigans will be in the history books for ever, which makes me wonder how their kids will grow up and how their parent's bitterness and behaviour will affect their lives. Shame I'll be dead by then - I'd love to have been around to see if they grew up balanced human beings.

I can let rip ad infinitum into these two and I make no apology for saying I could willingly slap both of 'em. They need to step back and Harry needs to grow a set of balls and act like the head of a family not a child being led around by his wife.
As you may gather, their antics and falseness bring out the worst in me :(


Check out the link below - from 2018 to date. Says it like he see it but also gives reliable info:
Harry Markle ~ Traditional British Pro-monarchy Satire!

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Meghan's Mask Keeps Slipping

Meghan Markle's BIZZARE Behavior at the Invictus Games... move over Prince Harry!

Why Meghan Markle Is UNLIKABLE

Meghan goes first pushy meghan

Meghan Grabbing Shoving and Clawing So Much Cringe!
 
Harry did spearhead the formation and launch of the Invictus games.

It is an international multi-sport event first held in Great Britain 2014, for wounded, injured and sick servicemen and women, both serving and veterans. The word 'Invictus' is Latin for 'unconquered', chosen as an embodiment of the fighting spirit of the wounded, injured and sick service personnel and what they can achieve, post-injury.

The games are now held in other countries and Harry is still a patron. Got to give him that.
 
Believe Harry is ok, Markel is Ok. Love the crap from Britian too.
A former royal family in the USA is just another group living here.
Fame being what it is. Welcome to US. Royal Snobbery be danged.
Is Harry's Book mostly fact or complete fiction? Who cares. Is it good pros?
I prefer good Pros in fiction anyway.

We all seen pictures of Kate in a Bikini and mostly see thru dress.
Fame, Snobbery rubbish, it's all about the Pounds Sterling.
Sure, body doubles are always a possibility. Constant Rumors be danged.

Sure, Harry was the 1st Royal to serve in Battle with the Military since a long time ago.
Does anyone like constant invasion of privacy? Whose mother was killed by it?
Sure, it mostly could have had a lasting effect on a 12-year-old.
 
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Naturally said:
Harry did spearhead the formation and launch of the Invictus games.

It is an international multi-sport event first held in Great Britain 2014, for wounded, injured and sick servicemen and women, both serving and veterans. The word 'Invictus' is Latin for 'unconquered', chosen as an embodiment of the fighting spirit of the wounded, injured and sick service personnel and what they can achieve, post-injury.

The games are now held in other countries and Harry is still a patron. Got to give him that.
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Quite right Naturally...

Quote from Invictus Website:
https://www.royal.uk/invictus-games

'It began on a trip to the Warrior Games in the USA in 2013, when Prince Harry saw how the power of sport could help wounded servicemen and women in their recovery - physically, psychologically and socially.
His mind was made up. London would host the inaugural Invictus Games, an international sporting event for wounded, injured and sick Service personnel. He directed his charity, The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, to deliver the games in partnership with the Ministry of Defence'.

But the sad thing is that it now seems to be more about The Harry & Meghan Show rather than what it set out to be. I've read recently some are expressing their dismay at Harry being their patron.
 
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The fall out, of course, was extraordinary and, the interviews, books and Netflix stuff which followed have made it, I think, impossible for Harry (with or without Meghan) to ever be a working Royal again. If Harry did return to Britain, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I have no personal feelings towards either him or Meghan. Actually, I think it is a shame how things turned out because, H&M could have become part of a more modern wing of what is often a very stuffy institution.
 
Quakers ,those videos are bordering on vitriolic hate to me - picking on every ordinary thing or expression of Meghan's and making it into something

I dont find H+M particularly likeable but I dont get this obsession with Meghan hate and I find videos like that rather pathetic

I'm sure one could trawl through hours of footage of anyone and make a 4 minute video of odd facial expressions, I doubt anyone has a perfect public face at all times - but why would you ??
they say more about the video maker than about Meghan.
 
Quackers said:
A rant....

Most Brits are 'earthy' 'feet on the ground' types, ie we're not into 'celebritydom' like over yonder.
We saw through Meghan quite early on and her effect/change on Harry. I seem to remember Diana expressed worries about Harry at some point in his childhood - maybe he would've always struggled and become a messed up adult - we know the palace always covered up stuff about his antics.

Whether a royalist or not, a lot of our bitterness is from being ripped off and conned by them not to mention a staggering amount of taxpayers money being wasted. 18mths later they buggered off and by all accounts they'd planned it that way. And now, even tho' he lives over there and pays for his security, he wants taxpayers money to fund his security when he visits here (court case in the offing about it).

If he/they had carried on their lives out of the spotlight, I'd have no problem with them. But they didn't. They put themselves out there preaching and complaining globally about their lot and all the rest which I can't be bothered mentioning. They made themselves unlikeable, except to those too young to know any different, or to those who believe they are what they want to project themselves as being.

Harry is a delusional brain addled spoilt Man Child and idiot, fake humanitarian who loves playing the Victim card, amongst other things

- and the equally delusional manipulative control freak fake humanitarian Pushy Claw Woman he's married to, excels in the art of self love and believes she's royalty.

They are clowns in their own circus. They lie and deceive, trash their families at every opportunity and set themselves up as some sort of mental ill health 'guru' (for want of a better word). Neither hold any qualifications in that field (nor any other field come to think of it), which is cause for concern, they're not exactly good role models are they?

All their shenanigans will be in the history books for ever, which makes me wonder how their kids will grow up and how their parent's bitterness and behaviour will affect their lives. Shame I'll be dead by then - I'd love to have been around to see if they grew up balanced human beings.

I can let rip ad infinitum into these two and I make no apology for saying I could willingly slap both of 'em. They need to step back and Harry needs to grow a set of balls and act like the head of a family not a child being led around by his wife.
As you may gather, their antics and falseness bring out the worst in me :(


Check out the link below - from 2018 to date. Says it like he see it but also gives reliable info:
Harry Markle ~ Traditional British Pro-monarchy Satire!

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Meghan's Mask Keeps Slipping

Meghan Markle's BIZZARE Behavior at the Invictus Games... move over Prince Harry!

Why Meghan Markle Is UNLIKABLE

Meghan goes first pushy meghan

Meghan Grabbing Shoving and Clawing So Much Cringe!
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Aside from gossip and sensationalism I really don't know very much about them.
 
I can't imagine anyone disliking Diana as was mentioned in an earlier thread. I was fortunate enough to be in London for a conference 2 days after she died. The cards, candles and flowers left outside of Kensington palace by the public were nothing short of astounding.

IMO she was a fantastic lady who made the best of a marriage that should have never taken place. She used her position to continually champion great causes and showed care and empathy throughout the globe.
 
seadoug said:
I can't imagine anyone disliking Diana as was mentioned in an earlier thread. I was fortunate enough to be in London for a conference 2 days after she died. The cards, candles and flowers left outside of Kensington palace by the public were nothing short of astounding.

IMO she was a fantastic lady who made the best of a marriage that should have never taken place. She used her position to continually champion great causes and showed care and empathy throughout the globe.
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I can’t imagine anyone disliking Princess Diana either but there are and some of the biggest haters are women from this site who are actually from England. She is one woman who wore her heart on her sleeve and expressed that love so eloquently in every moment that she lived.

She took advantage of being in the press to a new level. She bravely faced and interviewed people with aids, showing the public that they were just as lovable as the rest of us. She visited children in hospital and made a huge difference in their lives.
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She brought needed attention to the land mines of Angola by walking through them. Princess Diana was president or patron of over 100 charities. The Princess did much to publicise work on behalf of homeless and disabled people.

She became an international icon and used her celebrity to raise awareness for a number of causes, from leprosy to domestic violence to mental health. She made headlines in 1987 when she intentionally shook hands with an AIDS patient, working to dispel the myth that HIV/AIDS could be spread through touch. Diana's actions helped to break the stigmas associated with the virus at the time.
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Princess Diana WAS the ‘people’s princess’ said in the words of the UK Prime Minister, Tony Blair. She visit Nelson Mendela in Cape Town and Mother Teresa in New York.

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Princess Diana spent most of her time bringing attention to those who needed it.

On the eve of Diana's funeral, the Queen and Prince Philip look at floral tributes left outside Buckingham Palace. More than 1 million bouquets of flowers were left at Kensington Palace, Buckingham Palace and St. James's Palace in the wake of Diana's death.

She was deeply loved by most people from around the world. I also can’t imagine anyone hating her. They must have a very cold heart.

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George1959 said:
Exactly my thoughts. I remember the early morning of Diana's death vividly. It was a sunday and I and some friends were going by car to hike some miles away. As we heard the news on the radio all of us were shocked.
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It was Saturday night here. I had fallen asleep in the LR, which was my bedroom as well. My teenaged son woke me with the news. I was positive he was making a stupid joke and I yelled at him. He pointed to the television which was still on, I hadn't turned it off. Wow. Shocking, I felt so very sad and hurt.
 
January said:
Quakers ,those videos are bordering on vitriolic hate to me - picking on every ordinary thing or expression of Meghan's and making it into something

I dont find H+M particularly likeable but I dont get this obsession with Meghan hate and I find videos like that rather pathetic

I'm sure one could trawl through hours of footage of anyone and make a 4 minute video of odd facial expressions, I doubt anyone has a perfect public face at all times - but why would you ??
they say more about the video maker than about Meghan.
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Yes, I hear you.

But OTOH if one publicly trashes a centuries old Institution known all around the world then it's to be expected they will be scrutinised/criticised (or cheered by anti-royalists), all around the world - assuming of course those people are interested in our country, it's RF and traditions.

I remember over the years, before the advent of the internet, the endless news articles and pictures of the Kennedys, Marylin Monroe, Jackie Kennedy, Aristotle Onassis Grace Kelly, Presidents, Elvis etc etc.
People have always been fascinated by those in the public eye - it's more intrusive now because we have the internet.

I'm not an anti-royalist. I grew up with them, celebrated with them, street partied when they married, cried when they died and still get goosebumps watching the pomp and ceremony.
Yes, the RF is traditional and perhaps stuffy, but it's slowly modernising and I feel the next King & Queen will be popular - they seem natural genuine caring people, sprinkled with lots of fun.

I also feel Diana, a genuine and natural humanitarian, would be sad to see Harry so half hearted towards something she excelled in.

Anyway, I've said my lot. I'll shut my gob now.
 

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