I Have Tried Cases Before the Supreme Court

Paco Dennis said:
If the rules and regulations around gift acceptance for members of Congress are followed then we would not have these questions about the gifts that are over the top.
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Very true, but once it started, it would be like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube , to stop it. Remove them all and start all over from scratch ?

I think it is purely the 800 pound Elephant in the room we must deal with ... daily.

Once the first gift was granted and accepted , the others likely thought .... hey wait a minute, maybe there's something for me. As opposed to saying , oh no we'll have none of that, give it back, and shame on you.
 

rgp said:
I understand completely , and have a similar background/past.

But the painful truth is .... if we remove from position all those without pure ethics, we would have virtually no one to do the job (s) .

For all here whom believe in Jesus, God, Religion the whole bit [I do not] . It is said that Jesus was perfect ..... they killed him ......... jus-sayin'
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Why drag Jesus into a conversation about corrupt Supreme Court justices?
 
gruntlabor said:
Term limits.
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IMO,term limits (about 20 years) and an age limit (about 80) would be good to apply to future Supreme Court justices. Modern medicine can keep people alive and functioning reasonably well into their 80’s and beyond. But, that doesn’t mean they have the mental and physical capacity to do such a job.

I have a very nice neighbor who is 85 years old. for the last three our four years, every time she sees me she stops, tells, me her age, when she migrated to the country, and so on. She can cook and keep her house reasonably well, though I do suggest a professional cleaning now and then. Her kids help her, also. This is great. But, I would not want her as a judge on a traffic ticket court case much less on a SCOTUS case.
 
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rgp said:
OK, so which do you want ? I truly believe ya cannot have both. The candidates would need to be almost puritanical.
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Nonsense. Reduce corruption at all costs. Justices, Congress, the president are in positions of power, they have a fiduciary duty, If they can't keep their hands in their own pockets, then prison time, and not easy time like Martha Stewart enjoyed!
 
gruntlabor said:
Nonsense. Reduce corruption at all costs. Justices, Congress, the president are in positions of power, they have a fiduciary duty, If they can't keep their hands in their own pockets, then prison time, and not easy time like Martha Stewart enjoyed!
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OK, Nonsense back-at'cha .... fiduciary duty means nothing. It's a nice official sounding word but , who sets the bar / sets the standards ? Prison time ? Half [or more] of the gov would be in prison, and after that no one would even apply, as they know it could likely be themselves next.
 
rgp said:
OK, Nonsense back-at'cha .... fiduciary duty means nothing. It's a nice official sounding word but , who sets the bar / sets the standards ? Prison time ? Half [or more] of the gov would be in prison, and after that no one would even apply, as they know it could likely be themselves next.
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Well, you know attorneys have an excellent ethics system. Those who fail are simply fined or removed from practice. Prosecution not necessarily involved.

All Greek men (landholders) were obliged to serve for a period of about five years if I remember right. It worked very well for them.

Where there's a will .. well, you know..
 
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rgp said:
When did this become about me ?
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It's not About you; it is responding to you; you entered this thread of your own free will, right? Just having a conversation WITH you, it is not an attack Upon you. C'mon, rgp, we've known each other for years now!
 
Redusce corruption, now that’s a novel idea. I think starting over is the best solution if everyone is willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of all mankind. I have no problem with that, looking for any excuse to get off this train wreck.

I am not privy to the graand scheme of things but I believe the only way to recover is starting over. We may lose our place in the evolutionary chain but hey, it will be good for all mankind.

If the world reset itself, will there be another Jesus to save our souls? I feel god will prevail, however, because of him/her the creator. Maybe the next time thee world will be perfect with no need of. a savior? If no need for a savior will we need god? Mind you, the world is perfect?

In my opinion the world is already perfect, the world and every thing associated with the world does exactly as it should even though we don’t understand and there are some terrible things that happen in the world, however, perfection does not mean bad things don’t happen, it simply means if it happens whatever that incures is perfect, because it cannot be anything less than perfect becuase it happens.

Humans are sympaathetic to pain and sorrow so many people se these things as flaws, illness and death are not flwas of nature both are essential for progress and new birth. Old folks like us are hesitant to leave and make way for generations to come. Without death, the world would die of overcrowdedness and depletion of resources before progress could begin.

The world is perfect, you and I are perfect because our roles here on earth are carried out exactly as they should inspire of our ignorance.
 
Pepper said:
It's not About you; it is responding to you; you entered this thread of your own free will, right? Just having a conversation WITH you, it is not an attack Upon you. C'mon, rgp, we've known each other for years now!
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In a previous post you said .......

"An ethical person does not have to feed his/her baser instincts. A dose of integrity might work wonders. Or have you given up on that?"

Sure reads as though you are singling me out . Questioning my ethics , when the thread was discussing justice Thomas.

Suddenly it's about me ?
 
Mr. Ed said:
Redusce corruption, now that’s a novel idea. I think starting over is the best solution if everyone is willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of all mankind. I have no problem with that, looking for any excuse to get off this train wreck.

I am not privy to the graand scheme of things but I believe the only way to recover is starting over. We may lose our place in the evolutionary chain but hey, it will be good for all mankind.

If the world reset itself, will there be another Jesus to save our souls? I feel god will prevail, however, because of him/her the creator. Maybe the next time thee world will be perfect with no need of. a savior? If no need for a savior will we need god? Mind you, the world is perfect?

In my opinion the world is already perfect, the world and every thing associated with the world does exactly as it should even though we don’t understand and there are some terrible things that happen in the world, however, perfection does not mean bad things don’t happen, it simply means if it happens whatever that incures is perfect, because it cannot be anything less than perfect becuase it happens.

Humans are sympaathetic to pain and sorrow so many people se these things as flaws, illness and death are not flwas of nature both are essential for progress and new birth. Old folks like us are hesitant to leave and make way for generations to come. Without death, the world would die of overcrowdedness and depletion of resources before progress could begin.

The world is perfect, you and I are perfect because our roles here on earth are carried out exactly as they should inspire of our ignorance.
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Starting over by our own hand is an option albeit a painful one, maybe a fatal one. Maybe we'll be starting over anyway as a natural consequence. Already our life expectancy has dropped.

A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall. --Bob Dylan
 
rgp said:
In a previous post you said .......

"An ethical person does not have to feed his/her baser instincts. A dose of integrity might work wonders. Or have you given up on that?"

Sure reads as though you are singling me out . Questioning my ethics , when the thread was discussing justice Thomas.

Suddenly it's about me ?
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I can't help it that you see it this way. Talk With you, not At you. Feel like I'm walking on eggshells sometimes. Have a great day!
 
MarkD said:
High moral character is all we ask.
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Ok, I agree here for sure, but if I may point out?

IMO, many/most people that seek these offices are of an aggrandizing personality . That is [in many cases] exactly why they go into politics. Again, not for the good of the country, but for their own self fulfilment . And IMO, I do not believe those folks are necessarily of high moral character ? Yes there are exceptions , but we seldom get the exceptions.
 
gruntlabor said:
I really disagree with you here. Reducing corruption is easy if we only make up our minds to it! I mean it's a simple question to ask oneself, "What is he? A man or a mouse or a long-tailed rat?"
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Well ..... I guess we just disagree. What we are talking about [IMO] is the personality , mental, emotional make up of people. And of course we cannot guide that. All we can do is judge what we see, and decide from that. Trouble is, we may or may not see the true him/her.
 
rgp said:
Well ..... I guess we just disagree. What we are talking about [IMO] is the personality , mental, emotional make up of people. And of course we cannot guide that. All we can do is judge what we see, and decide from that. Trouble is, we may or may not see the true him/her.
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We once voted a judge out of office. Later, in an interview, he said something like, 'My God, I was only following the law!'
The important thing was that we made a statement. Maybe he ought to have been respectful of public perception, because he is gone, and they do say the public sentiment is always right.
 

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