Cultural revolution of the 1960s

Call me old-fashioned but can't freedom exist alongside courtesy, gallantry and respect for women? Are they mutually exclusive concepts?
Of course they are not mutually exclusive, Candi. But maybe I'm just fortunate. My father, husband, and son were/are all respectful men who treated/treat everyone well and never (dared :ROFLMAO:) got in any woman's way, ever. All of them gentlemen, so I have always had the best of all worlds.
 
Of course they are not mutually exclusive, Candi. But maybe I'm just fortunate. My father, husband, and son were/are all respectful men who treated/treat everyone well and never (dared :ROFLMAO:) got in any woman's way, ever. All of them gentlemen, so I have always had the best of all worlds.
Yes, I was lucky, too, because my father and my late husband were very respectful of women. In my husband's case, it was the way his own mother had raised him.
 
Call me old-fashioned but can't freedom exist alongside courtesy, gallantry and respect for women? Are they mutually exclusive concepts?

No they are not mutually exclusive as I said before

Everybody can be equal and free and treat others with courtesy and respect - it isn't a gender thing or a thing toward women only.
 
They followed like sheep jumping off a cliff. I'm glad I wasn't a part of it. I was raised by parents who instilled family values (I briefly rebelled against a puritan, over-bearing mother but that passed with time).

Family values and feminism aren't mutually exclusive either.
 
Yes, it is very sad and I think contributes to some of the tension between men and women nowadays. Men don't know how to behave towards women now (what is allowed and what is not) and I don't think women don't know how to react when courtesy is extended to them except to lash out in anger..


That seems a huge generalisation to me.

Most women do not out lash out in anger when courtesy is extended to them. Nor do most men.
 
I live in New York City and in the last couple of months, women have been randomly attacked in the street coming home from work so, yes, we have to be suspicious and defensive just to survive.
A friend told me this story. He said there was a car broken down with a woman in it under the overpass late last night. He pulled over to help, got out of his truck. She brought up a thirty-eight, pointed it at him, and said, 'Take one more step and I'll blow your head off.'
 
A friend told me this story. He said there was a car broken down with a woman in it under the overpass late last night. He pulled over to help, got out of his truck. She brought up a thirty-eight, pointed it at him, and said, 'Take one more step and I'll blow your head off.'












Exactly why people are so wary and afraid of other people now. You don't know how they're act or react. Everyone at least in NYC is on high alert all the time. It's exhausting.
 
Exactly why people are so wary and afraid of other people now. You don't know how they're act or react. Everyone at least in NYC is on high alert all the time. It's exhausting.
I've never found it exhausting as I learned this so early in life that being on high alert is my way of being, and this calms me & gives me confidence. I'm less confident now that I'm older, but that's due to being more frail. NYC gave me the confidence to travel freely to other states, countries. There's not much that could surprise me, I'm always aware of my surroundings and glad for what NYC taught me.
 
I live in New York City and in the last couple of months, women have been randomly attacked in the street coming home from work so, yes, we have to be suspicious and defensive just to survive.
Even in small towns in Germany an increasing number of women gets attacked and raped by ... You may guess the answer. To be defensive and suspicious is a good thing, but of course it would be better, if this wouldn't be necessary. Meanwhile many women even avoid going out at night at all.
 
A friend told me this story. He said there was a car broken down with a woman in it under the overpass late last night. He pulled over to help, got out of his truck. She brought up a thirty-eight, pointed it at him, and said, 'Take one more step and I'll blow your head off.'
Ouch!
 
My paternal grandfather was from a small town in Germany and I always pictured it as serene and lovely. I guess no place is safe anymore. I'm one of those women who no longer goes out at night other than to come home from work.
 
This fear, especially in women, has reached Germany since the uncontrolled opening of it's borders to immigrants with chancellor Merkel in fall 2015. On New Years Eve the same year there were more than 1500 sexual assaults from migrants of the Middle East against women in Cologne. The mainstream media didn't publish or air this until it couldn't be hidden anymore.
 
My paternal grandfather was from a small town in Germany and I always pictured it as serene and lovely. I guess no place is safe anymore. I'm one of those women who no longer goes out at night other than to come home from work.
Do you remember which town it was?
 
This fear, especially in women, has reached Germany since the uncontrolled opening of it's borders to immigrants with chancellor Merkel in fall 2015. On New Years Eve the same year there were more than 1500 sexual assaults from migrants of the Middle East against women in Cologne. The mainstream media didn't publish or air this until it couldn't be hidden anymore.
Same is true here in the U.S.
 
The 60's were cool.

I have a lot of regrets because I really messed up and missed out by being a conservative. I voted for Nixon in 1968. :mad:

I'd love to go back to 1967 and give it another try and do it right this time.
I made a lot of mistakes back then as well, but not that one. ;) But in retrospect there isn't really much I would change if I could, it was a period of learning and growth for me.
The single best decision I made was to just go in the Army at age 17, for all the wrong reasons. But, the training I got while in the Army provided me with the skill set I used for over fifty years to earn a decent living. I was fortunate to come back from Vietnam in one piece.
 
This fear, especially in women, has reached Germany since the uncontrolled opening of it's borders to immigrants with chancellor Merkel in fall 2015. On New Years Eve the same year there were more than 1500 sexual assaults from migrants of the Middle East against women in Cologne. The mainstream media didn't publish or air this until it couldn't be hidden anymore.
That's because they consider western women to be sluts, I think. Are we sexually liberated? Or are we sluts? Or are the terms synonymous? Or what??
 
That's because they consider western women to be sluts, I think. Are we sexually liberated? Or are we sluts? Or are the terms synonymous? Or what??
It does seem that migrants have a distinctly different view of women than American men do. I think it has to do with their culture and their upbringing. I'm not talking about all migrants, just a certain percentage of them.
 
That's because they consider western women to be sluts, I think. Are we sexually liberated? Or are we sluts? Or are the terms synonymous? Or what??
Yes, they do Western women considerate as sluts. But all of us know that our women are not. Such people are completely incompatible with our Western lifestyle. They should leave our countries as soon as possible, if necessary by force.
 
I'm not talking about all migrants, just a certain percentage of them.
The same with most of the people in Western countries. We make a difference between these people who got integrated well and between criminals. Even former immigrants from Turkey or the Middle East don't like the latter.
 
Yes, they do Western women considerate as sluts. But all of us know that our women are not. Such people are completely incompatible with our Western lifestyle. They should leave our countries as soon as possible, if necessary by force.
That should be so for any and all violent crimes. They should leave. If there are difficulties, they should be held pending.
 
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