Four Dead In Georgia High Schoo Shooting

oslooskar said:
I am of the opinion that it's a consequence of being disconnected from reality due to too much television and not enough time with parents.
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And the parents? What if they are lousy parents like this kid, named after a gun, are? Mother a meth head? Oh, yes, he needed more time with them?
 

old medic said:
If I have to tell you, you wouldn't understand.
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Famous last words of people who can't explain themselves.
If I had to tell you why I think you feel the need to have guns you would understand and you wouldn't like it at all.
 
Pepper said:
And the parents? What if they are lousy parents like this kid, named after a gun, are? Mother a meth head? Oh, yes, he needed more time with them?
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Oh come now! You know very well I was not referring to that particular case; I was speaking in general.
 

oslooskar said:
Young men should learn to use firearms by the time they are 18 as a matter of responsibility, safety, and self-reliance. In a world where personal and public safety can be unpredictable, understanding the safe handling and proper use of firearms equips young men with the knowledge and skills to protect themselves and others in times of need. Firearm education instills discipline, teaches respect for the power of weapons, and reinforces the importance of following rules and regulations. Additionally, it fosters a sense of confidence and maturity, enabling them to make informed decisions about safety in their own homes and communities. More significantly, an armed citizenry has historically served as a bulwark against tyranny, preventing the United States from becoming a spawning ground for dictators, unlike Europe, where disarmed populations have often been vulnerable to oppressive regimes. By learning to responsibly use firearms, young men become part of a tradition that protects individual freedoms and preserves democratic principles.
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You're sounding more and more like an NRA cult member. The gendered nature of the NRA’s approach manifests in two main ways: hypermasculinity and women’s vulnerability.
 
Della said:
If I had to tell you why I think you feel the need to have guns you would understand and you wouldn't like it at all.
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Of course he would, because, like me, he has heard all that nonsense before and it's always good for a laugh. In fact, if what you would like to tell us was true, I never would have opted for the snub-nosed revolver I carried when I drove a taxi in San Francisco many years ago. LOL
 
{Size isn't everything, Oslooskar.;)}


Back to the Apalachee school shooting:

"A 10-minute call was placed from Marcee Gray’s phone to the school at 9:50 a.m., the Washington Post reported. Police were notified of the shooting around 10:20 that morning, CNN previously reported."

So Colt's mother had figured out something was going to happen and called to warn the school.

I was yelling for the blood of the parents in the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for them now. I think they were probably doing the best they could with a real problem child, mother's alcoholism, father's flailing and making bad decisions, just a sad mess all around.
 
Della said:
I was yelling for the blood of the parents in the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for them now. I think they were probably doing the best they could with a real problem child, mother's alcoholism, father's flailing and making bad decisions, just a sad mess all around.
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This lead to murder. Sorry for them. Okay, Della.
 
I saw or read something that said the shooter was under the FBI's radar since May 2023 for allegedly making threats about shooting up school(s), which the boy denied. His father was brought into school to discuss concerning behavior of his son. It's too bad there are no legal means to detain or monitor people who make such threats openly (usually on social media).

The father, who must be a special kind of stupid, deserves to go to prison for buying an assault style rifle for his son, who he must've known was disturbed at that time. I believe he will be convicted and serve time. I just heard that the death penalty may be on the table for the boy.
 
Soooo.... the kid sends mama a text saying "I'm sorry, mom"... she calls the school counselor and says there's an extreme emergency, check on her son. Wonder if the thought ever entered her mind that calling the police may have been a wiser choice? She would have known it wasn't a "sorry mom" suicide text... because he wouldn't have gone to school to do that.
 
Wasn't he in a new school? So, he had no grudge against anyone yet, I suppose. What a sickening situation. Too bad the families of the dead can't sue the FBI for not keeping tabs on this young nutcase.
 
Pepper said:
Wasn't he in a new school? So, he had no grudge against anyone yet, I suppose. What a sickening situation. Too bad the families of the dead can't sue the FBI for not keeping tabs on this young nutcase.
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Oh okay...no death penalty. He was in a new school but I also read that he had been picked on. He's a nice looking boy, not geeky looking at all, so I was wondering why that was. A fellow classmate did say he was quiet, said little or nothing and only gave one word answers. Maybe he was considered an oddball and that's why.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Oh okay...no death penalty. He was in a new school but I also read that he had been picked on. He's a nice looking boy, not geeky looking at all, so I was wondering why that was. A fellow classmate did say he was quiet, said little or nothing and only gave one word answers. Maybe he was considered an oddball and that's why.
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There is no why. He Murdered. I read he was called 'gay.' If that bothered him, he should have cut his hair and not dye it. I wouldn't let a 14 year old girl dye her hair, why would I allow my son at that age?

Yes, conformity. One needs strength to be picked on. Oh, poor him, picked on. But not by anyone in a brand new school. His demons were within and his loco parents.
 
Pepper said:
There is no why. He Murdered. I read he was called 'gay.' If that bothered him, he should have cut his hair and not dye it. I wouldn't let a 14 year old girl dye her hair, why would I allow my son at that age?

Yes, conformity. One needs strength to be picked on. Oh, poor him, picked on. But not by anyone in a brand new school. His demons were within and his loco parents.
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Yes. It takes courage to ignore bullying and courage to confront it. Confronting it does not mean picking up a gun! Most of the young people who are/were picked on and bullied didn't resort to shooting up their schools. Believe me, I'm in no way feeling sorry for that boy.
 
Pepper said:
Wasn't he in a new school? So, he had no grudge against anyone yet, I suppose. What a sickening situation. Too bad the families of the dead can't sue the FBI for not keeping tabs on this young nutcase.
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I heard that's why his records hadn't caught up to him although it was one month into the new school year at that point. Probably some issues in those records that would've helped flag him for closer supervision if nothing else.
 
Pepper said:
If his mother called the school, why wasn't he immediately taken out of class? Who dropped this ball of fire?
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Apparently it was only 30 minutes between the call from his mother until he started shooting, no-one either looked for him in that time, or if they did they couldn't find him. The mother apparently immediately jumped in her car and started the 3 hour drive to the school, and just 30 minutes in, she heard the news on the car radio
 
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Della said:
Famous last words of people who can't explain themselves.
If I had to tell you why I think you feel the need to have guns you would understand and you wouldn't like it at all.
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But see, there is the point. What you think I SHOULD FEEL......
My grandfather spent over 2 years island hopping in the Pacific, And he had no wishes to ever touch a gun again, wouldn't let them in his house. But understood the reason to have one if you wanted. I lost a teen cousin to his friends dads pistol that laid out on a table. (I agree with securing firearms). He had never been exposed to guns, except on TV (this was pre video games) and picked it up, looked down the barrel, and pulled the trigger. Our grandson knew better than that at 7.
 
Pepper said:
He is the topic of this discussion and his parents are bizarre. So are many other parents. Many are doped up, strung out, drunk, uneducated fools. Procreation doesn't make better humans.
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Well, I don't have the solution to the problems of decadent junkies. I can only say that, having observed Asians and Asian Americans for many years, I believe their strong family values are a key factor contributing to their extremely low crime rates and overall success.
 
oslooskar said:
Well, I don't have the solution to the problems of decadent junkies. I can only say that, having observed Asians and Asian Americans for many years, I believe their strong family values are a key factor contributing to their extremely low crime rates and overall success.
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Does not translate to United States, where Asians are in minority. oslooskar, Come Home, you've been gone too long! :ROFLMAO:
 

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