Real Scientists Are Concerned That Science Is Dead

Your home with something,
Irishdude said:
I'm home with Covid, but even so I must have better things to do than this
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Irishdude said:
What's really amazing is not that we faked the moon landing in 1969 but that we did it five more times until 1972. We even faked a failed moon landing so that Ron Howard could make Apollo 13.

By the way, no U.S. ships were hit in the Tonkin Gulf incident (except for a single bullet that hit the U.S.S. Maddox) and we never said they were. There were no U.S. casualties. We did lie shamefully about a second, fabricated incident to provide a pretext for expanding the Vietnam War. We were the fools in that case. That's not conspiracy theory, just historical fact.

You're conflating the two gulf wars. The whole WMD question was the pretext for the second gulf war, not the first.

9/11 -- oh, wow. I suppose the Jews did it?

I could go on, but won't.
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Well yes there was damage, and there are pictures of it. I believe 18 sailors died. But if you know better.

Yes thank you for explaining that there was 2 gulf wars! The WMD was a complete fabrication. Period. Lies to get us into war with Iraq. The first-Kuwait, all the world was told because Iraq invaded Kuwait. But in all reality, it was the US/Nato who told Iraq to attack Kuwait cause Kuwait was going to the gold backing for currency. Same as Khadafi in Libya.
 

Tazx said:
Lol, 100's of kilos! I can get rocks from northern Greenland that have vastly different geological appearance than anything in the US or Canada and say I got them from Antarctica! How would you prove otherwise?
And of the million people that work at amazon worldwide, how many know whats going on in the company? 5, 10, maybe 25? Very easy to segment information.
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You're right, everything you say is true. I'm convinced.
 
Irishdude said:
I'm home with Covid, but even so I must have better things to do than this.
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Well you may be home with something, but it ain't covid.
Coronavirus is the broad term for over 200 versions of the common cold/flu etc. There is no covid. And frankly I hope you get better, but its' just the cold and flu.
 

Irishdude said:
You're right, everything you say is true. I'm convinced.
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Tazx said:
Well you may be home with something, but it ain't covid.
Coronavirus is the broad term for over 200 versions of the common cold/flu etc. There is no covid. And frankly I hope you get better, but its' just the cold and flu.
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Thanks Dr. Tazx. That's just what they said at the clinic I went to Monday.
 
Irishdude said:
You're right, everything you say is true. I'm convinced.
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Hey as I said, believe what you may. This is a forum, not a debate. You believe A, I believe B, someone else believes C, so be it. Don't argue the point then. Leave it. Go to your grave with your beliefs, I'll go to my grave with mine.
 
Irishdude said:
Thanks Dr. Tazx. That's just what they said at the clinic I went to Monday.
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You know covid has never been proven to exist right? No evidence or biological sample ever produced. What ever they told you is what the brainwashed masses are led to believe. Show me evidence of a isolated biological sample that any country has shown to exist? Just 1, and I will concede the point! Anywhere? You have a coronavirus version, that has been renamed covid.
 
Tazx said:
You know covid has never been proven to exist right? No evidence or biological sample ever produced. What ever they told you is what the brainwashed masses are led to believe. Show me evidence of a isolated biological sample that any country has shown to exist? Just 1, and I will concede the point! Anywhere? You have a coronavirus version, that has been renamed covid.
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Isn't it a bat thing engineered to affect the Human system. That alone seems a heck of a change since 1920.

Key takeaways:

COVID-19 is short for “coronavirus disease of 2019.”
The World Health Organization (WHO) named the virus that causes COVID-19 “severe acute respiratory syndrome 2,” or SARS-CoV-2.
This virus that causes COVID-19 is called a “novel coronavirus” because it had never been seen before 2019.

Why was the coronavirus renamed to COVID-19?​

According to the WHO, diseases are named “to enable discussion on disease prevention, spread, transmissibility, severity, and treatment.” After a disease is named, it’s officially listed in the International Classification of Diseases (ICD).

At a February 11, 2020 press conference, the WHO announced that the name “COVID-19” was based on agreed guidelines between the WHO, the World Organization for Animal Health, and the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. The name and its abbreviation were chosen because they didn’t refer to a specific geographic location, a specific animal, or a specific group of people. It also had to be easy to pronounce and related to the disease.
 
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JustDave said:
I'm pretty sure the moon landing was a fake, but bought a piece of wood from the cross of Jesus, that comes with a certificate of authenticity, so that's the real deal.
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I suppose Apollo 13 was just a boat trip? The Saturn system was awesome and watching the buggy rides, them bouncing around was fun. The
Science of the Oxygen tanks were changed. I believe Satellites have taken pictures of the tracks left on the Moon.

Should have built a base there instead of all the war crap. Wouldn't have needed the Space Station or the Columbia ships. I watched the 1st landing and Neil leaving the lander for the 1st time. Guess it was more about bragging rights. No one has done it since.

We sure trashed up the place with a lot of $$$ billions in left junk.

BBC released pictures.
Photos of Apollo stuff left at the moon surface - Bing
 
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Here's what I know about human nature: Two people might be able to keep a secret. Three would be a stretch and four an absolute impossibility. My point:

I went to JPL in the early 90s during my son's school field trip. When we toured the area that tracks launches, I was astonished at the many dozens of desks, chairs, computers, etc., in that large room, not to mention ancillary support rooms. During launches, these are all manned 24/7, so at least two shifts. Now multiply that by the 30 plus other ground tracking stations around the planet.

Five continents, including Russia who was not on good terms with us politically, several islands and some ships, were tracking, surveilling and monitoring Apollo launches. That'd be one massive secret for thousands of people and their families to keep private, not to mention an unfriendly government who would have loved nothing more than to "out" a US hoax. Sorry, those kinds of secrets just don't happen.
 
Tazx said:
There actually isn't any evidence they did land on the moon...
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Look SF members, stop responding to such ridiculous posts beyond just leaving say a unhappy face smilie below posts. Although such trolls won't ever admit it, they are usually well aware we landed on the moon. We already proved such on previous earlier similar posts. There is no way to respond to what I wrote a month ago without playing troll games.

Do you believe we never went to the moon?

Every time a related thread appears, you can expect they will start the game over again. That is actually a well known strategy of some Internet trolls to irritate others because whatever someone else writes they simply can ignore whatever and repost whatever same nonsense. You are playing into their baiting game by responding as though irritated...their goal. Note such trolls often also use sockpockets, (in order to remain after being banned on one name) so it could be another member with similar posts.

Also note how in his long #15 post above he as someone that obviously hates the NO POLITICS policy on SF, used actual politician names several times. Again just trying to irritate others here in that way too.
 
David777 said:
Look SF members, stop responding to such ridiculous posts beyond just leaving say a unhappy face smilie below posts. Although such trolls won't ever admit it, they are usually well aware we landed on the moon. We already proved such on previous earlier similar posts. There is no way to respond to what I wrote a month ago without playing troll games.

Do you believe we never went to the moon?

Every time a related thread appears, you can expect they will start the game over again. That is actually a well known strategy of some Internet trolls to irritate others because whatever someone else writes they simply can ignore whatever and repost whatever same nonsense. You are playing into their baiting game by responding as though irritated...their goal. Note such trolls often also use sockpockets, so it could be another member with similar posts.
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Good advice. Thank you David777.
 
David777 said:
Look SF members, stop responding to such ridiculous posts beyond just leaving say a unhappy face smilie below posts. Although such trolls won't ever admit it, they are usually well aware we landed on the moon. We already proved such on previous earlier similar posts. There is no way to respond to what I wrote a month ago without playing troll games.

Do you believe we never went to the moon?

Every time a related thread appears, you can expect they will start the game over again. That is actually a well known strategy of some Internet trolls to irritate others because whatever someone else writes they simply can ignore whatever and repost whatever same nonsense. You are playing into their baiting game by responding as though irritated...their goal. Note such trolls often also use sockpockets, so it could be another member with similar posts.
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What is wrong with you. How am I a troll? Whats a sockpocket?
 
papa tiger said:
Isn't it a bat thing engineered to affect the Human system. That alone seems a heck of a change since 1920.

Key takeaways:

COVID-19 is short for “coronavirus disease of 2019.”
The World Health Organization (WHO) named the virus that causes COVID-19 “severe acute respiratory syndrome 2,” or SARS-CoV-2.
This virus that causes COVID-19 is called a “novel coronavirus” because it had never been seen before 2019.

Why was the coronavirus renamed to COVID-19?​

According to the WHO, diseases are named “to enable discussion on disease prevention, spread, transmissibility, severity, and treatment.” After a disease is named, it’s officially listed in the International Classification of Diseases (ICD).

At a February 11, 2020 press conference, the WHO announced that the name “COVID-19” was based on agreed guidelines between the WHO, the World Organization for Animal Health, and the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. The name and its abbreviation were chosen because they didn’t refer to a specific geographic location, a specific animal, or a specific group of people. It also had to be easy to pronounce and related to the disease.
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Not sure why the explanation, but...every year is a novel coronavirus. The cold and flu has been mutating since forever. That's the explanation the cdc gives for why you need a new flu shot every year. So in essence, every year is a novel CV. Yes the CV-19 for the year, and?
 
Watching Richard Nixon talk to the guys on the moon on youtube. Lol. No delay huh? How is that possible?
Also watching Armstrong going down the ladder, and NASA says we are watching you descending the ladder. How. No delay? Never knew digital tech was so advanced in 1969 that they could send real time footage back to earth so clear, smooth, and in real time. Care to explain.


 
Tazx said:
Where is the evidence? Do you have proof? Is there any? Oh right it was on TV, so that must mean it happened.
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The proof is that the lunar landing (Appollo 11) was tracked and the video went out live from the Parkes Observatory radio telescope in New South Wales, Australia. I watched it happen in real time. I listened to the return and re-entry of Appollo 13, also in real time. There was nothing fake about either event.
 
Irishdude said:
Well, there's the hundreds of kilograms of moon rocks, and the fact that someone with a good telescope can still see debris and marks from the landings. But maybe you're right, the 400,000 people who worked on the moon landings have been keeping the secret right to their graves.
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Exactly, Irishdude. Any conspiracy to deceive that involves more than a handful of people is impossible to sustain over time.
 
Warrigal said:
Any conspiracy to deceive that involves more than a handful of people is impossible to sustain over time.
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Which is exactly why they have not been sustained.

I knew in the first 5 minutes that 9/11 was an inside job. I could tell by the way the person was talking.
When he said the attack was "a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts" I knew he was talking about
himself and the others responsible. The claim that Afghan people living in caves somehow did it was ridiculous.

The national defense system was told 9 times to stand down and do nothing while the attacks were occurring.
But not just that, there was plenty of immediate verification from the firefighters and others that it was an inside job.

Sure, there are always people who are blind to the truth.

Personally I choose to always be truthful, to always be open to the truth, as I feel it's the only way to live a real life.

@Irishdude - My ability to see the truth is exactly why I don't believe in ludicrous conspiracy theories. ✔️
 
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Brookswood said:
I think they are over reacting. There is plenty of science going on in the world. Alas, there is also plenty of bad science in the field of human health, and lots of politicizing of science. But, I would not trade today's science for all its problems and go back to the science we had in 1920. Too many people would die early if we did that.
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That right there is the biggest problem. Follow the money and the politics and that'll tell you as much or more than the actual science.
 
John cycling said:
Which is exactly why they have not been sustained.

I knew in the first 5 minutes that 9/11 was an inside job. I could tell by the way the person was talking.
When he said the attack was "a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts" I knew he was talking about
himself and the others responsible. The claim that Afghan people living in caves somehow did it was ridiculous.

The national defense system was told 9 times to stand down and do nothing while the attacks were occurring.
But not just that, there was plenty of immediate verification from the firefighters and others that it was an inside job.

Sure, there are always people who are blind to the truth.

Personally I choose to always be truthful, to always be open to the truth, as I feel it's the only way to live a real life.
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Being open to the truth doesn't mean believing every ludicrous conspiracy theory that comes along.
 

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