Leftover Men Importing Wives

[dilettante]

Over much of the industrialized world men are having trouble finding monogamous relationships and marriage.

According to an expert from Norway where population decline is already alarmingly bad, this is the result of a 50-year social experiment that replaced what came before. Under feudalism and earlier systems polygamy was almost the rule, and it also left a lot of unattached men to serve in wars, field labor, etc. Soon after Church and State in the then-developing world brought about social change making monogamy and "romance" the new tradition.

All of that was blown up by the advent of The Pill and a rise in abortion. He doesn't judge that, since it "freed" women. But it turned out to have consequences that seem dire and already irreversible.

So women were free to be choosy, and as time went on their standards have increased. There is now a growing fraction of males who find themselves left out as in times under official and unofficial polygamy.


A fraction of such "leftover men" have taken to "importing" wives or even emigrating to lands where monogamy is still traditional. There they find they still have "marketplace value" and can find compatible mates.

Here one "average-looking at best, poorly educated hick, with few prospects of wealth" found his:

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I wonder how far this option will spread.

 

[Hackney]

USA men: Import your overseas wife now before possible tariffs make them much more expensive!

 

[dilettante]

Are Men Who Seek Foreign Women Just Leftovers?

Why are they called leftovers?​

The term “leftovers” is a derogatory term used to describe men who seek out foreign women. It implies that these men are somehow inferior, undesirable, or unable to find a partner in their home countries, so they’re settling for second best.​

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It’s hard to say where this term comes from. Maybe it’s a holdover from outdated views on cross-cultural relationships. Or maybe it’s just a way for some people to feel superior to those who have different preferences.​

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But one thing’s for sure — it’s hurting men.​

We Are Taking the Men That They Don’t Want, So What Are These American Women Mad About?

But why are so many American women so quick to judge these “Passport Bros”? Is it because they feel like they are being “left behind” in the dating pool? Or is it because they don’t understand the very reason why their men are leaving?​

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I know for a fact that there can be nothing wrong with it. When a man travels, it offers the opportunity to learn about different cultures and ways of life, to broaden one’s perspective, and to grow as a person. There is also the excitement of experiencing new food, languages, and traditions–made sweeter and more memorable by a newfound lover.​

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Yet, many American women have put down arguments that these guys are just in it for the sex and the opportunity to manipulate a “foreign woman” to do his bidding. And while this could be true in some cases, why are they not choosing to hear the genuine sentiments of their own men? Why are the men receiving so much backlash when all they want is to be cared for and appreciated?​

 

[Irishdude]

scrap that

 

[Pepper]

Why are the men receiving so much backlash when all they want is to be cared for and appreciated?

 

[Pepper]

Are you familiar with Dr. Scott Galloway? He is sympathetic to the plight of boys, possibly even grown men, but says it so much better than you. Look him up.

 

[dilettante]

Are you familiar with Dr. Scott Galloway? He is sympathetic to the plight of boys, possibly even grown men, but says it so much better than you. Look him up.

Isn't he a salesman with no Doctorate of any kind? I think he's a darling of the WEF as well.

 

[papa tiger]

Just give Russian Brides a Text, if you really want ripped off.

The Standard now as I know it is "I'm with him" (Maybe the guys can't brag about it? )

Then see all the Songs TS has written / sung about all those Dogs Did Her Wrong tunes.

Then I notice them young girls going and coming from schools mostly naked. Exposed Navels, pierced Toungs, eyebrows, Tattoos.
The older boyfriend in prison doing 190 months for aggravated statutory rape.

 

[Pepper]

Scott Galloway (born November 3, 1964) is an American public speaker, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur.[1][2] He is a clinical professor[3][4][5][6] of marketing at the New York University Stern School of Business. Wikipedia



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Oh, just look him up yourself, dil. He is a fabulous man, spouting what you are, but so much better and I think you will enjoy his point of view.

You are always giving US YouTube assignments, so now I'm giving you one! Let me know what you think of him, please

 

[Happy Heart]

I can't speak to other relationships but I knew a family with an adult son who traveled to pick up a "bride". Soon the "bride" felt everyone owed her something and began working on getting her share of the husband's potential inheritance so her family could live well when they were also moved here at the husband's expense. She called her elderly mother-in-law near midnight to just run to the store because her parents needed cigarettes and didn't want to go out. Yea, sure. It was sad to see how she was raising their children with her culture to hate Americans while her husband remains silent.

It takes years to get to know someone well enough to decide on marriage so I think American women tend to be suspicious of sudden romance fraught with so much unknown. It also implies that some women can be bought and owned which harms all women.

 

[Murrmurr]

Scott Galloway (born November 3, 1964) is an American public speaker, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur.[1][2] He is a clinical professor[3][4][5][6] of marketing at the New York University Stern School of Business. Wikipedia

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Oh, just look him up yourself, dil. He is a fabulous man, spouting what you are, but so much better and I think you will enjoy his point of view.

You are always giving US YouTube assignments, so now I'm giving you one! Let me know what you think of him, please

I agree with what I've heard so far.

 

[Oldeagle66]

'Leftover Men' is inaccurate. All men aren't damaged goods and lost. Men have raised their standards and found out they don't need to be around women who don't bring anything to the table, and think men should chase them just because they exist. On the flip side, getting a wife from another country isn't a guarantee for a successful marriage. Tons of those marriages fail. I myself know of a few. If a person isn't happy within themselves, a marriage won't fix that and is doomed.

 

[Oldeagle66]

Just give Russian Brides a Text, if you really want ripped off.

The Standard now as I know it is "I'm with him" (Maybe the guys can't brag about it? )

Then see all the Songs TS has written / sung about all those Dogs Did Her Wrong tunes.

Then I notice them young girls going and coming from schools mostly naked. Exposed Navels, pierced Toungs, eyebrows, Tattoos.
The older boyfriend in prison for aggravated statutory rape.

I know a few guys who were ripped off and broken hearted chasing foreign brides.

 

[Aunt Bea]

From the OP.

“So women were free to be choosy, and as time went on their standards have increased.”

and that’s a bad thing?

 

[Warrigal]

I have never heard the term "leftover" before. It used to be said that spinsters over the age of 25 were "Left on the shelf".

If men of a certain age seek a mate from a foreign country I have no problem with that, but the union will probably be more transactional than most other marriages.

It is hardly a new phenomenon. When I was 45 years younger a friend of mine travelled to Fiji to meet his potential bride. He thought that she was his dream match but she really only wanted to be in a position to send money back to her parents. Once her status as an Australian citizen was established she left him. He was heartbroken.

On the other hand it is not uncommon for older Australian men to secure foreign wives to serve as their nurse and housekeeper. These women are very vulnerable and endure financial, emotional and in extreme cases, physical abuse.

Arguments that blame modern women suit the current zeitgeist but really they are without firm foundation.

 

[dilettante]

Oh, just look him up yourself, dil. He is a fabulous man, spouting what you are, but so much better and I think you will enjoy his point of view.

Finished an ear-bleeding hour. The guy does love to congratulate himself, doesn't he?

He and his interviewer "no-homo'ed" profusely as they gushed all over each other. Yes, he enumerated many of the underlying problems while entirely letting the root causes off the hook and in fact praised them. What little he proposed he immediately dismissed as not possible, his reason being that it undermines the privileges afforded to women.

So he's aware of the problems and their root causes, but does nothing but blame the men (all the while saying that it's unfair, but then doubling down on blame).

He's so chokingly smarmy and passive-aggressive. Also big on the idea of stripping the resources of one generation to give it to another.

 

[dilettante]

If anyone bothers to even skip through the original video or run it at 2x speed or something I think you'll see that the couple appears to have a healthy "normal" relationship considering that they have no children yet.

 

[dilettante]

Sheesh. Another hour, and they very same talking points repeated almost as if read from a script. At least he doesn't suggest polygamy as a serious fix for society.

China seems like a weird case. Men far outnumber young women, but there is somehow a substantial subculture of "leftover women" no man wants. Many of them are well-educated but find that it means nothing to men (much as here) and they are deafened by their ticking clocks as they get closer to 35 to 40.

 

[VaughanJB]

Over much of the industrialized world men are having trouble finding monogamous relationships and marriage.

According to an expert from Norway where population decline is already alarmingly bad, this is the result of a 50-year social experiment that replaced what came before. Under feudalism and earlier systems polygamy was almost the rule, and it also left a lot of unattached men to serve in wars, field labor, etc. Soon after Church and State in the then-developing world brought about social change making monogamy and "romance" the new tradition.

All of that was blown up by the advent of The Pill and a rise in abortion. He doesn't judge that, since it "freed" women. But it turned out to have consequences that seem dire and already irreversible.

So women were free to be choosy, and as time went on their standards have increased. There is now a growing fraction of males who find themselves left out as in times under official and unofficial polygamy.


A fraction of such "leftover men" have taken to "importing" wives or even emigrating to lands where monogamy is still traditional. There they find they still have "marketplace value" and can find compatible mates.

Here one "average-looking at best, poorly educated hick, with few prospects of wealth" found his:

Filipina Reaction to Seeing Snow for The First Time

I wonder how far this option will spread.

This runs counter to what I'm seeing. It's left over women that are predominant.

Now, not to get political - but I think it was women entering the work place that really started the issue where some women found they didn't need men.

As for "importing" a wife - why bother? Aren't men, these days, simply going on "holiday" to the likes of Thailand?

 

[Pepper]

Sorry dilettante. Scott Galloway introduced me to the subject. He was enlightening for me. You're not, because you speak so bitterly. Being female, perhaps I misrepresented Galloway to you, but I tried to find some common ground. Hard to do with you, you're so angry, which I can relate to, but we're angry about different things.

I care about boys and young men. I have a grandson.

 

[fuzzybuddy]

I just don't think the male to female ratio is that drastic. I think I might have a chance for a mate without resorting to sheep. I think we can leave Svetlana in her own homeland, and not have our continent slide into the sea.

 

[papa tiger]

I don't seem to have a problem with the ladies liking me. I don't ask them to kiss my arss.

 

[Brookswood]

There are plenty of good women around.

I know several men who are looking for foreign wives, specifically from Asia. It’s because they want a care giver. Somebody to cook, clean, and care for them as they age. Good luck with that. One guy married a foreign gal 30 years younger from a small village in a SE Asia country. Then she had a baby. Now well into his 60’s he is stuck with a small child to raise. And, He is afraid she will divorce him and get 1/2 of his property and money.

Meanwhile I stick with American women in my age group. Most are happy to be a good partner, looking forward to plenty of emotional and physical intimacy, and are financially independent.

 

[George1959]

More than three decades ago a former friend of mine told me a story. He was as a member of the German Armed Forces (Bundeswehr) together with two other men in Dallas, TX to improve his knowledge of the English language.

One of the young men knew a young and well-educated Mexican women (penpal) who wrote and spoke English fluently.

During the stay in Dallas he went to Mexico and visited the woman at her parent's house.

After some days he came back hysterically. The two other men asked him what has happened but he refused to talk about it and stayed agitated.

Back in Germany again this young man quit his service in the Army, began to study Catholic theology and became a priest in the end.

But the young Mexican woman even came to Germany, found my former friend and asked him for the address.

He gave it but never heard how the story continued.

 

[dilettante]

Ok.

So there is no problem, and young guys interested in traditional marriage and family are fools. Potential "foreign" brides are all psychopathic criminals out trolling for victims to exploit. Any guy with an interest in them clearly has nefarious intent as well and is a racist, misogynist, lazy, unsuccessful, deplorable to boot. He fills the entire Bingo card.

The many cross-national relationships that end in happy marriage are false and maybe just some far-right media creation, a total fiction.

And of course, denial is indeed a river in Egypt.