I have a complaint

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Lon

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  1. I do not like ANY poster that posts comments that I did not make or mis quotes comments that I did make. This happens of course with any topic that involves politics.

LET ME SAY FOR THE RECORD that politically I am a INDEPENDENT & absolutely abhor the FAR LEFT & THE FAR RIGHT.
 

Well, you should correct them and/or ask them to show exactly where you said (whatever). However, doing so gets exhausting and often fans the flame. But people are going to misinterpret things as they see fit, for whatever reason(s), and to fit their own little agendas.
 
This is the venue for "complaints"? Do we have a complaint dept.? Maybe we should have one and we could serve a drink to calm things down. We could call it the "wine while you whine dept.".....
 
Lon said:
  1. I do not like ANY poster that posts comments that I did not make or mis quotes comments that I did make. This happens of course with any topic that involves politics.

LET ME SAY FOR THE RECORD that politically I am a INDEPENDENT & absolutely abhor the FAR LEFT & THE FAR RIGHT.
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Let me say for the record that Jim is an Independent and absolutely abhors the far right and the far left. Woops! I think I misquoted Jim. Did he say the far right and the far left... or the far left and the far right? Now I'm in trouble. :):)

Political discussion can show the worst in people. I have a difficult time understanding why folks can't discuss issues with some semblance of respect for all those who are part of the conversation. I do believe some of the lack of respect has been ingrained from listening to too many political pundits who will talk over callers and guests on their own programs. After watching their favorite "political evangelists" bully their way through discussion, it becomes the norm.

I'm not sure it's just "far left" or "far right". Used to be Republicans and Democrats... Baptists and Presbyterians.... White collar and blue collar... could be involved in a boisterous discussion about a specific issue and then shake hands as they went to have a cup of coffee together. Today, kids don't learn the etiquette of discussion around the dinner table... no one sits together for a meal. All are off somewhere on their digital devices. People no longer visit face to face about an issue. Instead, they chat on line or make fools of themselves on political discussion boards.
 
Grumpy Ol' Man said:
Let me say for the record that Jim is an Independent and absolutely abhors the far right and the far left. Woops! I think I misquoted Jim. Did he say the far right and the far left... or the far left and the far right? Now I'm in trouble. :):)

Political discussion can show the worst in people. I have a difficult time understanding why folks can't discuss issues with some semblance of respect for all those who are part of the conversation. I do believe some of the lack of respect has been ingrained from listening to too many political pundits who will talk over callers and guests on their own programs. After watching their favorite "political evangelists" bully their way through discussion, it becomes the norm.

I'm not sure it's just "far left" or "far right". Used to be Republicans and Democrats... Baptists and Presbyterians.... White collar and blue collar... could be involved in a boisterous discussion about a specific issue and then shake hands as they went to have a cup of coffee together. Today, kids don't learn the etiquette of discussion around the dinner table... no one sits together for a meal. All are off somewhere on their digital devices. People no longer visit face to face about an issue. Instead, they chat on line or make fools of themselves on political discussion boards.
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Lot of wisdom that. Thanks for posting it GOM.
 
This relates to something that has taken off over here.

In OZ we will be having a byelection next month to fill a lower house vacancy caused by the death of the sitting (government) member. The Abbott government has selected a candidate who is an ex SAS member with several tours of Afghanistan and Iraq.

He made his first campaign speech a few days ago and attacked the opposition by declaring that the previous Labor government didn't have the backs of the troops (or something to that effect). This has taken off on social media as he said that Julia Gillard never visited the troops while they were in Afghanistan. This is demonstrably false because she certainly did and as far as I can ascertain he never said it BUT it's all over twitter and facebook and people against the government are convinced that this is what he did say.

I'm not a supporter of this government and I have my doubts about this candidate, nevertheless I have been speaking against these misrepresentations. Putting words into other people's mouths is dishonest and should not be used to argue a case.

So, Lon, without knowing exactly what you are referring to, I'm on your side.
 
Perhaps you are right but I was talking about a principle and that still stands as far as I am concerned.

For speaking up for truth in the example I gave, I am now being branded a supporter of Tony Abbott, which couldn't be further from the truth. I loathe the man and all that he stands for.
 
Oct. 1st. International flyways open. First 10 ducks dedicated to QS. (Slow roast Mallard is pretty good, braized with wine)
 
ducks must be pretty stupid... THese guys have made millions out of fooling them... hahahahah

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Grumpy Ol' Man said:
Let me say for the record that Jim is an Independent and absolutely abhors the far right and the far left. Woops! I think I misquoted Jim. Did he say the far right and the far left... or the far left and the far right? Now I'm in trouble. :):)

Political discussion can show the worst in people. I have a difficult time understanding why folks can't discuss issues with some semblance of respect for all those who are part of the conversation. I do believe some of the lack of respect has been ingrained from listening to too many political pundits who will talk over callers and guests on their own programs. After watching their favorite "political evangelists" bully their way through discussion, it becomes the norm.

I'm not sure it's just "far left" or "far right". Used to be Republicans and Democrats... Baptists and Presbyterians.... White collar and blue collar... could be involved in a boisterous discussion about a specific issue and then shake hands as they went to have a cup of coffee together. Today, kids don't learn the etiquette of discussion around the dinner table... no one sits together for a meal. All are off somewhere on their digital devices. People no longer visit face to face about an issue. Instead, they chat on line or make fools of themselves on political discussion boards.
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Agree Mr. Grumpy OM. People trying to discuss political things online become so insulting I can hardly believe what I read! I feel however, they would never speak the same way face to face at say, a bbq or another gathering of some kind
 
RadishRose said:
...People trying to discuss political things online become so insulting I can hardly believe what I read! I feel however, they would never speak the same way face to face at say, a bbq or another gathering of some kind
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While dodging fire in my first political thread here (I see Admin has removed most of those inappropriate posts), I learned a lot…not about the political topic so much, chuckle, but about how to get along with difficult people, and I also learned a lot about myself….

…that exercising self control, though challenging, builds character. I learned that I spend too much time expressing myself, because I try to think before I speak and take care in how I'm coming across…not always successfully...but that causes me to be too slow for the pace of a hot topic and I become overwhelmed. I learned to compensate for that by taking a backseat, a rest, and not feeling like I had to address every comment. I learned to choose to address choice posts and let the others slide.

I learned that I can make mistakes and offend someone for not seeing her posts that were on-topic and I learned to say I'm sorry to her and share kindness. I learned to let go of insults and not let it bother me. I learned who my friends are…who is not afraid to step in and offer support on the field (that takes guts sometimes) and off the field (off=messages/reputation marks) and I learned to wait for calmer days to restore misunderstandings…only if worthwhile…because I learned I don't have to everybody's friend.

And finally, I learned that my thread is not my thread. I'm merely the one who created it…but, unlike real life, creation is not my baby so I can't mother it. People don't want to be told to stay on topic. They think it's telling them what to post. I learned to let go of disappointment, be patient, and look for the gems.

Will I ever boldly enter the arena of persecution again? Sure, it makes life interesting and you grow. But I hear you, Lon. I saw that happen to you and I stepped in and attempted to correct them on your behalf (in my post#139 over in the trump thread).

Peace Love Dove:rose:
 

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