Heard an interesting phrase... (for discussion)..

CooCooforCoCoPuffs said:
Absolutely. My family nicknamed me "Mother Nature". I don't cry at funerals, and they think I am cold and unemotional. Quite the contrary: I just inside me know death or whatever is supposed to happen, we humans have no real control; just feels "normal" to me...crying isn't going to fix someone being dead. I cry more out of human frustration or anger than "sorrow" about death itself.
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Mankind... a complex conundrum.
 
I sometimes think that maybe humans didn't really evolve on this planet at all. That maybe we were deposited here and that we are in fact, alien invaders who don't belong.

I tend to look at humans as more of a virus or an infection that has sickened and weakened a once pristine, healthy organism (Earth).

Like a cancer.

Or an invasive species.

Like the Burmese Pythons in the Everglades.

The best thing that could happen to the Earth would be the extinction of the human race.
 
gruntlabor said:
Too late. Not for the earth of course, but too late for the earth as we know and love it.
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I dunno.

I think that if humans were to disappear for whatever (non nuclear) reason, after a hundred thousand years or so, all traces of our "civilization" would have disappeared and to a casual observer, there would be no signs that we were ever here.

Some species we've driven to extinction might not return, but eventually some new ones might begin to evolve.
 
debodun said:
Humans always have to mess with things trying to make them better and usually make things worse.

I was having this discussion with a former meal client a few years ago. I was saying, "Imagine what a paradise the Earth would be if there were no humans. Everything would be in balance."
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Nobody here to enjoy and appreciate it, though.

Kind of a double edged sword, if you will.
 
'We' live our life (lives) contrary to the law of nature.

I don't believe we can validate or invalidate that statement until we can agree on the definition of nature and who or what is the author of its laws.
 
Had man not gone and messed up by medicines, vaccines, ability to make all the EXTRA food with modern farming and genetic corn, taters...etc; made it so people could survive as infants more, on and on...the balance of nature would not be so extremely "off".

Being at the top of the food chain has dangers inherent in such: like no natural enemies.

We need aliens and to STOP trying to save a bunch of old people during a pandemic! They should have let it rip; SS and Medicare, Medicaid would have been SAVED!!!

Idiots. Don't MESS with Mother Nature! ZAP!! Remember the Chiffon margarine commercial of the 70s?? LOL
 
Olivia said:
'We' live our life (lives) contrary to the law of nature.

I don't believe we can validate or invalidate that statement until we can agree on the definition of nature and who or what is the author of its laws.
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Perhaps:

Nature: Laws of biology, chemistry, physics, the life sciences? Food chain stuff.
 
I was thinking the WHOLE time covid was "untamed": "Boy is THIS Mother Nature helping humanity out or what?"
Trying to SAVE 90 year olds in nursing homes? Save people with autoimmune systems that are non functional, or over functional, save asthmatics, save extremely FAT 500lb people who are obviously going to die early and horribly anyway?

What the H for??
SO they can survive?
Survive just to die?
If that isn't "contrary" to Nature I do not know what is.
 
MrJim said:
I dunno.

I think that if humans were to disappear for whatever (non nuclear) reason, after a hundred thousand years or so, all traces of our "civilization" would have disappeared and to a casual observer, there would be no signs that we were ever here.

Some species we've driven to extinction might not return, but eventually some new ones might begin to evolve.
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This looks like an interesting read,
The World Without Us
By: Alan Weisman

https://www.bartleby.com/essay/The-World-Without-Us-F3CTGQ3JTC

There also have been numerous programs on the internet about THE WORLD WITHOUT PEOPLE.
 
CooCooforCoCoPuffs said:
I was thinking the WHOLE time covid was "untamed": "Boy is THIS Mother Nature helping humanity out or what?"
Trying to SAVE 90 year olds in nursing homes? Save people with autoimmune systems that are non functional, or over functional, save asthmatics, save extremely FAT 500lb people who are obviously going to die early and horribly anyway?

What the H for??
SO they can survive?
Survive just to die?
If that isn't "contrary" to Nature I do not know what is.
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That's moving from science to society.
 
Olivia said:
This looks like an interesting read,
The World Without Us
By: Alan Weisman

https://www.bartleby.com/essay/The-World-Without-Us-F3CTGQ3JTC

There also have been numerous programs on the internet about THE WORLD WITHOUT PEOPLE.
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I've seen one called "After Humans". I think it was on The History Channel

It's odd because long before these programs etc ever came out, I would occasionally try to imagine the stages of nature's reclamation of the Earth at various specific stages, like 100 years, 500 years, 1,000 years, 10,000 years, 50,000 years etc, etc, and try to imagine things like how long it would take for things like skyscrapers, bridges, dams, etc.to start falling down.
 

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