Tragic Shooting of TV Journalists On Live TV By Disgruntled Ex Employee

mitchezz said:
With his record he was able to buy a weapon? Crazy.
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Unfortunately the only documented complaints involving(but not against) the killer were his EEOC complaints=equal employment opportunity commission and a failed lawsuit in Florida. Even though legal action was started nothing came of it. The only red flag would've been a restraining or no tresspass order against the killer after he was fired. I heard the police were called as a safety precaution but did the station file for a restraining or no tresspass order? I don't want to jump on the station for that because people are fired all the time and management is always nervous after a firing but most go without incident.
 

Very sad for the victims, my heart goes out to their families. The murderer is definitely mentally ill with severe anger issues, too many like that around these days.
 
The problem lies in the fact that they can't stop somebody really. A person can be waving behavior red flags all over the place, but until they actually break the law the authorities can't do a thing. There are places like California where you can ask for a 5150 that will get someone put in psych observation. but if their deemed basically functional they might be released.

Case in point, we have a distant relative who's crazy as a loon. History of drug abuse, alcoholism, deep anger issues. I remember him as a teen getting high and barking at the bushes. If he decided to come down here and right whatever he feels against his brother...the police could give him a warning or park on the street. But until he starts shooting they can't stop him. Scary as heck.
 

Just eliminating the certifiably insane isn't enough.
There are lots of people with personality disorders who should never have access to a gun,
but as long as having a gun is seen as a fundamental right, the problem will not be addressed.
 
Well Warrigal, as long as you live in Australia you have less to worry about. But many in Australia still do own and use guns.

Sure you don't want to move to Africa either.
 
Bob, I have very little to worry about personally.

I live in Australia's biggest city in a suburban environment.
Crime and violence exist all around me but in reality the levels are quite low.
I am grateful that our schools, theatres and other public buildings are safe places
and that we haven't had a massacre since Port Arthur (1996).

I have no wish to live anywhere other than my own homeland.
With a heavy dose of irony, we call Australia "The Lucky Country"
but in reality being born here is very much like winning the lottery.
That's what my South African minister tells me.

Odd that something so good should develop from a convict colony.
 
Well, I sure hope your theaters stay safe. Once we thought so too. Then some nutter proved that did not have to stay that way and shot up a theater.

Another case was where a nutter took his mothers registered guns and shot up a school.

This points out a weak point in our gun laws partially and in how we handle mental problems. Once we had mental hospitals where questionable persons could be held. But now it seems that concern is not enough, they have to act out their frustrations first, then the courts can try them and send them to a mental type of prison.

This does no good for the ones these folks have already killed.
 
Commonality -- all US incidents were gun free zones. The entire population of Australia
is less than the state of Kalifonia.
 
Perhaps that is why we don't like it when any of our number get killed - here or overseas.
You on the other hand have many more people so the odd mass shooting is neither here nor there.
I begin to understand.

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The shooter's apartment was a mess including a mattress with no sheets, pictures of himself & pin ups, cat urine, cat poop on the balcony.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/27/inside-the-roanoke-shooter-s-filthy-den.html

Saw reports it was recommended that he seek medical help by management. Also saw other reports his mom was abusive to say the least. His father was a NFL Hall of Famer for the Green Bay Packers. Pictures of his younger self makes you wonder if he did steroids which if abused can cause and/or exacerbate existing problems-not an excuse. He was also known as a human tape recorder as a reporter. Work evaluations had him not working well with others.

'If' this guy didn't go ahead with the killings he would've been well on his way to a rubber room, eviction,jail and/or psychiatrist. He was just one step ahead of disaster. So close to these killings not occurring but it is all 'what if'. "What if" he actually sought help, "what if" the landlord got a court order to document his living conditions and evict him, "what if" the other road rage incident driver had called the police but no matter what the shooter voluntarily decided to kill others in cold blood and try to get away with it. Those involved in those 'what if' scenarios bare no responsibility for his actions. Sometimes evil is going do it's thing no matter how many ways we try to stop it.

PEACE
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Perhaps that is why we don't like it when any of our number get killed - here or overseas.
You on the other hand have many more people so the odd mass shooting is neither here nor there.
I begin to understand.

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any comparison between events here and there are solely in mind of the beholder.
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