New column comparing business records of Trump's and Fiorina's business records

Mr. Nocera is right on point. They are both con artist and liers, the more they lie, the higher their ratings go...what does that say about their base?
 
As the article says... Trump it the P T Barnum of our time, and apparently there are quite a few suckers born every minute. Fiorina?... She's just a liar every time she opens her mouth.
 
Our current President has watched our debt go from 10 trillion to over 18 trillion in his 6+ years so far. The US can be considered to be close to bankruptcy today if we don't turn our economy around soon.
 
Not even going to go down that path with you Bob... We have discussed that a thousand times.

You really hate the truth don't you. The debt is part of our national records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio...a.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

[h=1]National debt of the United States[/h]
On June 30, 2015, debt held by the public was $13.08 trillion or about 74% of the previous 12 months of GDP.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Intragovernmental holdings stood at $5.07 trillion, giving a combined total public debt of $18.15 trillion or about 102% of the previous 12 months of GDP.[SUP][7][/SUP] $6.2 trillion or approximately 47% of the debt held by the public was owned by foreign investors, the largest of which were the People's Republic of China and Japan at about $1.3 trillion and $1.2 trillion respectively for the two countries.[SUP][9][/SUP]
 
Today I chose another source of truth, facts, reality. It is good for all minds to see such truth about our current economy.
 
Lara said:
Walt Disney filed bankruptcy 3 times. Lincoln, Henry Ford, and Milton Hershey also filed bankruptcy.

Did they want to be President of the USA...? When did they run?
Grabbing at straws? Yes, Lincoln became President of the USA just so you know haha. But you missed the point as well (on purpose?). My post is talking about business…successful and respected men who have filed for bankruptcy, not once, not twice, but threes times. And, no, the corporations that carried Trump's name didn't do this during his run for presidential nomination, just so you know.
 
board of directors rubber stamp

One of things I notice the media in general is trying to zap Fiorina is with her severance package. But those packages are pre-negotiated pre employment agreements/contracts approved by that company's board of directors frequently full of corporate executives from other companies. These things don't happen in a vacuum. Also if I was going to have the responsibility for managing billions in business, 100s of thousand in employees etc I would want a pre employment pre negotiated severance package knowing that things could change fast in the corporate world. For the employee most will also be able to collect unemployment unless they commit a fireable offense. But performance issue usually don't stop an employee from collecting. There is a huge disparity is severance packages just as there is in salary. But so is there a disparity in job responsibilities, not importance but responsibility.
 
And now the Ex husband weighs in..

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/09/carly-fiorinas-ex-husband-shes-the-ultimate-clown/

Carly Fiorina’s ex-husband, Todd Bartlem, does not think very much of his ex-wife. Speaking with Bloomberg Politics, Bartlem made it clear that he was not a fan of her political career:

In the clown car that is the Republican Party, she’s the ultimate clown.


Fiorina tries to play up that she started from the bottom and worked her way up. The truth couldn’t be much farther from that. Her father was the dean of the Duke University School of Law and deputy attorney general under Richard Nixon. Fiorina graduated from Stanford, and then attended UCLA law school, but decided law wasn’t for her. She worked as a receptionist for a year before deciding to travel throughout Italy.

Fiorina was a complete disaster as CEO of Hewlett-Packard. She ended up cutting tens of thousands of jobs as a result of her mismanagement. Arianna Packard, granddaughter of company co-founder David Packard, stated: “I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded.” A former employee of Fiorina was even more blunt: “she is an a**hole of magnificent proportions…pathologically unable to give a s**t about anything but herself.”
 
And now the Ex husband weighs in..

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/09/carly-fiorinas-ex-husband-shes-the-ultimate-clown/

Carly Fiorina’s ex-husband, Todd Bartlem, does not think very much of his ex-wife. Speaking with Bloomberg Politics, Bartlem made it clear that he was not a fan of her political career:

In the clown car that is the Republican Party, she’s the ultimate clown.


Fiorina tries to play up that she started from the bottom and worked her way up. The truth couldn’t be much farther from that. Her father was the dean of the Duke University School of Law and deputy attorney general under Richard Nixon. Fiorina graduated from Stanford, and then attended UCLA law school, but decided law wasn’t for her. She worked as a receptionist for a year before deciding to travel throughout Italy.

Fiorina was a complete disaster as CEO of Hewlett-Packard. She ended up cutting tens of thousands of jobs as a result of her mismanagement. Arianna Packard, granddaughter of company co-founder David Packard, stated: “I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded.” A former employee of Fiorina was even more blunt: “she is an a**hole of magnificent proportions…pathologically unable to give a s**t about anything but herself.”


The family was upset at the merger from day one because it did represent the end of an era. But that same family turned or let HP go the way of a big national publicaly traded company and turned day to day decisions over to the ceo position. This was no longer a family company.

And after y2k tech upgrades a lot of tech & office equipment company business went flat or dropped only to be saved by a bubble. At the same time personal tech or the personal computer really started to ramp up. That also ment individual employees could do at their desk what had to be sent away to a copy room, printer or office to be digitized. Now a milk crate size printer could do what the piano size copier did and a disk & hard drive cut out a lot of middlemen AND equipment for a permanent digital record. HP had to get into the fiercely competitive pc market one way or another.

Layoffs suck and are frequently misused or abused by management. But many are necessary. You can't wait until accounting says broke in two weeks and the checks won't clear. CEOs are responsible for avoiding that quite frankly any legal way possible. If a company doesn't or won't have work for an employee keeping them on payroll is not a viable option That doesn't mean you can't be generous with severance and/or retraining expenses. That was one of the costs of the merger-buyouts and severance.
 
The family was upset at the merger from day one because it did represent the end of an era. But that same family turned or let HP go the way of a big national publicaly traded company and turned day to day decisions over to the ceo position. This was no longer a family company.

And after y2k tech upgrades a lot of tech & office equipment company business went flat or dropped only to be saved by a bubble. At the same time personal tech or the personal computer really started to ramp up. That also ment individual employees could do at their desk what had to be sent away to a copy room, printer or office to be digitized. Now a milk crate size printer could do what the piano size copier did and a disk & hard drive cut out a lot of middlemen AND equipment for a permanent digital record. HP had to get into the fiercely competitive pc market one way or another.

Layoffs suck and are frequently misused or abused by management. But many are necessary. You can't wait until accounting says broke in two weeks and the checks won't clear. CEOs are responsible for avoiding that quite frankly any legal way possible. If a company doesn't or won't have work for an employee keeping them on payroll is not a viable option That doesn't mean you can't be generous with severance and/or retraining expenses. That was one of the costs of the merger-buyouts and severance.

None of those excuses are going to pave her way to the White House... It's a millstone around her neck.. People won't give a hoot about her reasons or excuses... look what happened to Romney.
 


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