Do we need constant war?

My post in an earlier thread:

Are Humans Innately Aggressive?

Humans in competition for things they want may result in aggression. For example gender mates, easy locations with water to obtain and or grow food, pleasant weather environments. That is what happened when the first civilizations arose and quickly became warlike vying for more productive lands. Later some became increasingly warlike when powerful tribes with greater numbers and better weapons realized they could just take what they wanted from others. Thus the rise of states in Mesopotamia that was duplicated in other distant lands.


But what about things ancient humans were not generally in competition for like trading food goods with merchants with fur goods for clothing. Such humans were cooperative resulting in both benefiting. Lots of ways humans can help working with others and be parts of useful appreciative respectful teams. That includes outside groups contracting for manual labor like carrying tribe goods from one place to another say 20 miles down river for food exchange. So the growth of civilizations was not necessarily going to result in war but once that began, it dominated because nearby peoples had to protect themselves. From war came death, murder, pain, and hate for others with revenge, likely.


The above noted, I personally lean towards the view if a minor percentage of ethical and moral folks from this era if magically were transported to another similar planet, would be quite capable of getting along cooperatively, helpfully, in long periods of peace. Working against that now on planet Earth are 8 billion of we Earth Monkeys that in my own lifetime, have already overwhelmed the planet's health. With one-tenth that number spread across the planet with environmentally sustainable behaviors, our planet given our science, technology, and the rise of understanding, ethics, morals, laws, could be an amazing paradise for we organic intelligent entities.
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If all we humans on the planet were able to fairly vote on vaporizing all large modern war weapons including nuclear weapons, removing all the Military Industrial Complex warmongers from politics, removing uncontrolled unfair and destructive facets of capitalism, flattening the immense wealth gaps, I am certain the world-wide vote would be overwhelming, sending wealth oriented and warmongers and most politicians into hiding. Easy thought, but the bad guys hold all the power.
 
Aunt Bea said:
It seems to be part of our DNA.

It doesn’t matter if it’s nations at war or old men in their boxer shorts screaming at kids to get off their lawn, we are very territorial by nature and we all seem to believe that our values and the way we live is the way that everyone else should live.

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I don't know if this is part of our DNA.

But in fact there are bee states, that kill all foreign bees coming to their beehive. Cats are very territorial and fight with other cats.

Nevertheless I think that the human species should have learned to be at friend with the people of other nations. Often the governments are agitating their people to fight against the people of other nations. Sometimes there are religious (Islamists) and ideological (communists vs. the so-called capitalists) reasons make people fighting at each other.

I am tired of all this sh.t!
 
Can you imagine how boring history would be if there never were any wars? The pages of history are written in blood. Without wars no one would even bother to read any history. Even the games I play like chess and Civilization VI are about wars.
 
from Edwin Starr:

War, I despise
'Cause it means destruction of innocent lives
War means tears to thousands of mother's eyes
When their sons go off to fight
And lose their lives
I said, war, huh (good God, y'all)
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, just say it again
War (whoa), huh (oh Lord)
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me
It ain't nothing but a heart-breaker
(War) Friend only to The Undertaker
 
We have had a lot of practice, so we are pretty good at it. Did anyone see the video the driver of a car took while the bombing was happening? Very impressive. Those Air Force men know how to handle the B-2 and guiding the bombs to their targets.
 
Aunt Bea said:
It seems to be part of our DNA.

It doesn’t matter if it’s nations at war or old men in their boxer shorts screaming at kids to get off their lawn, we are very territorial by nature and we all seem to believe that our values and the way we live is the way that everyone else should live.
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I agree, Bea. As much as I'd like to imagine a war free world, I can't see it ever happening. People are always going to be in conflict-- from two individuals all the way up to nations. And conflict eventually leads to battle.
 
Tribalism is embedded within us. From wars right down to football match violence (soccer to most of you.) I wonder what our warmongering history would look like without religion? Or is that just another way we see the ‘us and them’ issue and respond accordingly?
 

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