My daughter's experience in France is blowing my mind! :-)

WheatenLover

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First, everyone (except her landlord) is very nice to her. She speaks French at the B1 level, and has moved to France to study French at a university there. Where she is, most people don't speak English or don't speak it well. Still, she manages to communicate.

Second, she had to go the emergency room because she gets severe asthma attacks from being near cat hair or dander. The people there were very nice and treated her well. When they gave her a prescription for asthma medication and an inhaler, they were concerned because she doesn't have health insurance -- could she pay for the medication. Well yes, she could. Total Cost for the ER visit: $80. Both medications: $8. These were not subsidized, just the usual cash price. (She doesn't have health insurance because the university or government is still looking at all her papers and the rubber stamp to get insurance will come through in a few days.)

She had to visit a doctor because of further severe asthma attacks. Cheap visit cost, cheap medications including an epipen. All the medical people are taking her seriously. No guff given. No one said the cause was stress, anxiety, all in her head, she was being a drama queen, etc. It is rare to be allergic to cats so severely that one could die from the resulting asthma attack.

Third, she informed her landlord about this allergy, in writing, in saved texts, and on the phone. He assures her that the apartment is extremely clean and no cats have lived there, not one bit of cat hair exists in that place. She arrives. The apartment has not been cleaned at all. There are copious amounts of cat hair on every surface - upholstery, wall baseboards, counters, curtains, even in the bathroom. The fridge has rotting food in it. She starts vigorously cleaning it, has a very serious asthma attack while sleeping that night, ends up in the ER, and has to move to a hotel.

There is a lot more to this story. Suffice it to say, she has so much evidence that the landlord lied to her, defrauded her, etc., that she has hired an attorney to get her money back (3 mos. rent, hotel costs) and to reimbursed for other damages.

This guy sounds like a typical slumlord who rents to students. My daughter is not the typical student. I can't fathom how the landlord didn't realize that, just in speaking with her. He deleted everything that he had communicated to her via texts and What's App, but not before she saved it. So at least he figured out that trouble was brewing and tried to delete evidence against him.

Anyway, I am proud of my daughter. She has handled the process of moving to France and renting an apartment exactly like I would have. I said to her that maybe I'd been wrong, maybe she should have been an attorney. She laughed and said, I learned it all from you, Mom! This is what happens when a person has attorneys for parents.

Fourth, I can't get over how nice everyone is to my daughter. My whole life I have heard about how the French people hate Americans and treat them rudely. This includes people in Montreal. I mean, before my daughter left, I was heavily wishing I had enough money to send a body guard, a guard dog, and an interpreter with her. So far she hasn't needed any of those things.

Fifth, no one, no matter how politely, has asked my daughter anything about the situation in the US. This is a good thing because she doesn't have to worry about conflict arising -- she has been a volunteer activist for a long time. Not that she was worried. But her mama was.

Now I can't wait to go to France to see her. I was looking forward eating at bakeries and candy shops. Now I'm looking forward to the entire experience.
 

First, everyone (except her landlord) is very nice to her. She speaks French at the B1 level, and has moved to France to study French at a university there. Where she is, most people don't speak English or don't speak it well. Still, she manages to communicate.

Second, she had to go the emergency room because she gets severe asthma attacks from being near cat hair or dander. The people there were very nice and treated her well. When they gave her a prescription for asthma medication and an inhaler, they were concerned because she doesn't have health insurance -- could she pay for the medication. Well yes, she could. Total Cost for the ER visit: $80. Both medications: $8. These were not subsidized, just the usual cash price. (She doesn't have health insurance because the university or government is still looking at all her papers and the rubber stamp to get insurance will come through in a few days.)

She had to visit a doctor because of further severe asthma attacks. Cheap visit cost, cheap medications including an epipen. All the medical people are taking her seriously. No guff given. No one said the cause was stress, anxiety, all in her head, she was being a drama queen, etc. It is rare to be allergic to cats so severely that one could die from the resulting asthma attack.

Third, she informed her landlord about this allergy, in writing, in saved texts, and on the phone. He assures her that the apartment is extremely clean and no cats have lived there, not one bit of cat hair exists in that place. She arrives. The apartment has not been cleaned at all. There are copious amounts of cat hair on every surface - upholstery, wall baseboards, counters, curtains, even in the bathroom. The fridge has rotting food in it. She starts vigorously cleaning it, has a very serious asthma attack while sleeping that night, ends up in the ER, and has to move to a hotel.

There is a lot more to this story. Suffice it to say, she has so much evidence that the landlord lied to her, defrauded her, etc., that she has hired an attorney to get her money back (3 mos. rent, hotel costs) and to reimbursed for other damages.

This guy sounds like a typical slumlord who rents to students. My daughter is not the typical student. I can't fathom how the landlord didn't realize that, just in speaking with her. He deleted everything that he had communicated to her via texts and What's App, but not before she saved it. So at least he figured out that trouble was brewing and tried to delete evidence against him.

Anyway, I am proud of my daughter. She has handled the process of moving to France and renting an apartment exactly like I would have. I said to her that maybe I'd been wrong, maybe she should have been an attorney. She laughed and said, I learned it all from you, Mom! This is what happens when a person has attorneys for parents.

Fourth, I can't get over how nice everyone is to my daughter. My whole life I have heard about how the French people hate Americans and treat them rudely. This includes people in Montreal. I mean, before my daughter left, I was heavily wishing I had enough money to send a body guard, a guard dog, and an interpreter with her. So far she hasn't needed any of those things.

Fifth, no one, no matter how politely, has asked my daughter anything about the situation in the US. This is a good thing because she doesn't have to worry about conflict arising -- she has been a volunteer activist for a long time. Not that she was worried. But her mama was.

Now I can't wait to go to France to see her. I was looking forward eating at bakeries and candy shops. Now I'm looking forward to the entire experience.
this is a horrendous situation.. masterly handled by your daughter.. good for her...

She's lucky she's met so many nice people on her travels because our neighbour France on the whole is a horrible place with horrible people... who really do hate English speaking people.. and are really rude... so perhaps her master of the french language has helped her...

On the subject of the cats we had a very similar problem.

We bought a beautiful one bed riverside apartment.. and we didn't know that the previous owner had not one cat but 6.. so when we went in to decorate we immediately ripped up the carpets which of course were full of cat hair.

Within minutes my husband starting gasping for breath... he simpy could not breathe. Fortunately the dotor surgery was just yards away.. and I got him to the surgery very fast.. turned out, he was highly allergic to cat hair, and the doctor injected him 7 times to open his airways and help him breathe

he had no idea he was allergic to cat hair... Doc says another 20 minutes he would have died!
 
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@hollydolly , I think the landlord isn't honest, and also that he probably had never heard of such a severe cat allergy. I don't know anyone who is other than skeptical IRL except for a couple of people who have witnessed her asthma attacks.

I did read somewhere that if a tourist knows just little bit of French, that goes a long way to thawing the French heart towards people who aren't fluent in French. The upshot was the French just want to know a person has made an effort -- it shows respect.
 
@hollydolly , I think the landlord isn't honest, and also that he probably had never heard of such a severe cat allergy. I don't know anyone who is other than skeptical IRL except for a couple of people who have witnessed her asthma attacks.

I did read somewhere that if a tourist knows just little bit of French, that goes a long way to thawing the French heart towards people who aren't fluent in French. The upshot was the French just want to know a person has made an effort -- it shows respect.
yes that used to be the case on a smaller level... but they still despised English speaking people a lot.. still do tbh...however they've been so inundated with illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe and Africa and the high crime they're creating , , I think they've thawed towards British , American, Canadian and Australian folks.. realising we're not the baddies..lol
 
Parisians have the worst manners in the universe. The French Swiss were just as bad.
absolutely true. Lois .... no-one knows them better than us... there is only 20 miles from shore to shore between us....

Their criminal elements ride our tube trains in gangs of pickpockets... usually girls.. and young women dressed like tourists.

They come in for a few days .. then take the train or ferry back home every week
 
Good for you daughter. Emergency care... $80??? How does France do that?
IDK. They gave her a breathing treatment and sent her to get her meds.

Also, she told me she had to get her lease basically guaranteed by someone, and I said I'd do it. A couple of days later, she said no need, the French govt is going to do it. Don't know anything about that either.
 
But it's not free there either -- isn't the healthcare scheme there paid for by taxes?
yes it is paid by our taxes.. free at source.. but those who have never worked , and immigrants who have just arrived don't have to pay...either

No-one when they seek medical help at a hospital are asked to show they've paid into the system .. at any time in their lives
 
oh you're so correct about Paris.... !
One time my mom wanted me to meet her in Paris. She had no problem there, even though she was German. She did speak some French. In fact, Americans always thought she was French, based on her accent. She definitely didn't have the typical German accent. Then again, I thought she had no accent at all. Our German relatives did, though.

Anyway, there was no way I was going to fly overseas by myself, especially to France where I didn't speak the language. There still is no way I'd travel internationally by myself. I would freak out (internally) if I were in a situation in which I couldn't communicate with words because no one understood English and I didn't understand their language.
 
One time my mom wanted me to meet her in Paris. She had no problem there, even though she was German. She did speak some French. In fact, Americans always thought she was French, based on her accent. She definitely didn't have the typical German accent. Then again, I thought she had no accent at all. Our German relatives did, though.

Anyway, there was no way I was going to fly overseas by myself, especially to France where I didn't speak the language. There still is no way I'd travel internationally by myself. I would freak out (internally) if I were in a situation in which I couldn't communicate with words because no one understood English and I didn't understand their language.
I don't worry about that personally...until recent events I travelled all over Europe.. my husband always refused to speak the language of the country we were in, and I was the opposite, determined always to at least learn the basics, and I found almost everywhere people understood some English if not quite a lot...
Sometimes it was a PITA, because I would be speaking to a waiter or salesman in broken whatever language, and they would reply in English, because they were desperate to brush up on their English, and I was just as desperate to hone my Spanish or whatever language.

France is not a problem for me because I learned French at school.. very basic french not in any way fluent never wanted to be because I hate france so it's not somewhere I regularly visit... despite it being on our doorstep..
 
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I love how young people are so fearless these days @WheatenLover. We watch House Hunters International and can't believe the number of young people moving to foreign countries (many they've never even visited) to start up new businesses. Sounds like she is adjusting quite well. Kudos!
 
First, everyone (except her landlord) is very nice to her. She speaks French at the B1 level, and has moved to France to study French at a university there. Where she is, most people don't speak English or don't speak it well. Still, she manages to communicate.

Second, she had to go the emergency room because she gets severe asthma attacks from being near cat hair or dander. The people there were very nice and treated her well. When they gave her a prescription for asthma medication and an inhaler, they were concerned because she doesn't have health insurance -- could she pay for the medication. Well yes, she could. Total Cost for the ER visit: $80. Both medications: $8. These were not subsidized, just the usual cash price. (She doesn't have health insurance because the university or government is still looking at all her papers and the rubber stamp to get insurance will come through in a few days.)

She had to visit a doctor because of further severe asthma attacks. Cheap visit cost, cheap medications including an epipen. All the medical people are taking her seriously. No guff given. No one said the cause was stress, anxiety, all in her head, she was being a drama queen, etc. It is rare to be allergic to cats so severely that one could die from the resulting asthma attack.

Third, she informed her landlord about this allergy, in writing, in saved texts, and on the phone. He assures her that the apartment is extremely clean and no cats have lived there, not one bit of cat hair exists in that place. She arrives. The apartment has not been cleaned at all. There are copious amounts of cat hair on every surface - upholstery, wall baseboards, counters, curtains, even in the bathroom. The fridge has rotting food in it. She starts vigorously cleaning it, has a very serious asthma attack while sleeping that night, ends up in the ER, and has to move to a hotel.

There is a lot more to this story. Suffice it to say, she has so much evidence that the landlord lied to her, defrauded her, etc., that she has hired an attorney to get her money back (3 mos. rent, hotel costs) and to reimbursed for other damages.

This guy sounds like a typical slumlord who rents to students. My daughter is not the typical student. I can't fathom how the landlord didn't realize that, just in speaking with her. He deleted everything that he had communicated to her via texts and What's App, but not before she saved it. So at least he figured out that trouble was brewing and tried to delete evidence against him.

Anyway, I am proud of my daughter. She has handled the process of moving to France and renting an apartment exactly like I would have. I said to her that maybe I'd been wrong, maybe she should have been an attorney. She laughed and said, I learned it all from you, Mom! This is what happens when a person has attorneys for parents.

Fourth, I can't get over how nice everyone is to my daughter. My whole life I have heard about how the French people hate Americans and treat them rudely. This includes people in Montreal. I mean, before my daughter left, I was heavily wishing I had enough money to send a body guard, a guard dog, and an interpreter with her. So far she hasn't needed any of those things.

Fifth, no one, no matter how politely, has asked my daughter anything about the situation in the US. This is a good thing because she doesn't have to worry about conflict arising -- she has been a volunteer activist for a long time. Not that she was worried. But her mama was.

Now I can't wait to go to France to see her. I was looking forward eating at bakeries and candy shops. Now I'm looking forward to the entire experience.
What an adventure! Thanks for sharing her story. I love Paris! I have fond memories of visiting there! Enjoy your experience with her.
 
I love how young people are so fearless these days @WheatenLover. We watch House Hunters International and can't believe the number of young people moving to foreign countries (many they've never even visited) to start up new businesses. Sounds like she is adjusting quite well. Kudos!
I think also the fact everyone has a translator in their phone helps a lot with taking the fear out of travelling to foreign speaking countries nowadays
 


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