Today Show host 84 year old mom is missing in Arizona-'concerning circumstances'

Shows planning which means they knew the house and occupant was related to Savanah.

The mustache some say is the son in law but others say body weight/type doesn't match up. But the kidnappers knew she was associated with or connect to people with money. I just don't
see totally random. A contractor with current or ex gang ties might have tipped them off.
 

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WhatInThe said:
Shows planning which means they knew the house and occupant was related to Savanah.
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Have you heard anything definitive that says Savannah's connection is why Nancy was "chosen" for an abduction? If it's not family, I was thinking maybe it was just someone casing out the secluded neighborhood for "an elderly lady who lives alone." Guess it could go either way, but maybe I missed something that was reported.
 
CallMeKate said:
Have you heard anything definitive that says Savannah's connection is why Nancy was "chosen" for an abduction? If it's not family, I was thinking maybe it was just someone casing out the secluded neighborhood for "an elderly lady who lives alone." Guess it could go either way, but maybe I missed something that was reported.
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The biggest issue is a kidnapper would have known the victim had access to money even if indirectly. Do other residents in that area have access to money?
 
I was wondering how they could recover images and videos from "residual data" since Nancy Guthrie didn't have a subscription that saves her surveillance videos to the "cloud." This is what AI gave me...

In the Nancy Guthrie case, the recovery of video from "backend systems" despite the lack of a subscription is a result of forensic data remanence and the way cloud architecture handles information during a "live" event.
While a standard user cannot access video without a paid plan, the data still moves through the provider's infrastructure. Here is how investigators recovered it:
  • Transient Buffering: Even without a subscription, cameras like the Google Nest (confirmed as the brand in Guthrie's home) still transmit data to the cloud to provide "Live View" and "Motion Alerts" to the user's phone. This data briefly exists on the provider’s servers during the transmission process.
  • Residual Fragments: In high-priority criminal cases, the FBI works with private sector partners to scan "unallocated space" on those backend servers. Fragments of the video stream—known as residual data—can sometimes be reconstructed even if they were never officially "saved" to a user's account.
  • System Logs and Metadata: Software at the home recorded movement minutes after the camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m.. By matching these logs with temporary cache files on the service provider's side, forensic experts can "pull back" images that were in transit when the motion was detected.
  • Private Sector Cooperation: A spokesperson for Google confirmed they are "assisting law enforcement". This level of deep-system recovery typically requires federal legal authority and specialized tools that bypass the standard user interface.
The recovered footage ultimately showed a masked individual wearing a backpack and gloves who appeared to be armed with a handgun while tampering with the camera.

That explains why it took so to recover the images. The FBI should be able to get the guy now. Somebody will recognize him.
 
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What a lovely sad story, Teacher Terry! It made me cry. Today, if a doctor decides that we shouldn't live alone, we risk a non-compliance label if we disagree and services can be denied us. Or worse, we can be committed.
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I think the key is that my mother was 100% competent. She was an intelligent woman and was thoroughly capable of making her own decisions.

Decades ago when I worked as a social worker people were allowed to live unsafely as long as they weren’t cognitively impaired. I’m not saying that things may not have changed in the past 16 years since she died, but I don’t think in that arena they have.
 
People seem to think that the man in the video resembles the SIL's friend others think it looks more like a female. Personally, I would struggle to recognise anyone with that mask on. If it turns out that the kidnapping was someone known to Mrs Guthrie, that would seem even sadder than if it was a stranger. Poor lady must have been terrified. :(
 
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People seem to think that the man in the video resembles the SIL's friend others think it looks more like a female. Personally, I would struggle to recognise anyone with that mask on. If it turns out that the kidnapping was someone known to Mrs Guthrie, that would seem even sadder than if it was a stranger. Poor lady must have been terrified. :(
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The eyebrows match Dominic Evans'. If the body type matches, they probably have their man.
 
RambleTamble said:
The eyebrows match Dominic Evans'. If the body type matches, they probably have their man.
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Connection to the Nancy Guthrie Case
  • The Band Connection: Evans formed Early Black in 2007 alongside bassist and vocalist Tommaso Cioni, who is Nancy Guthrie’s son-in-law. Cioni was reportedly the last person to see Nancy before she vanished from her Tucson home on January 31, 2026.
  • Viral Speculation: After the FBI released surveillance footage of a masked intruder at Guthrie's door, social media users suggested the individual's physical profile—including eyes and facial hair—matched Evans.
  • Criminal History: Public records from Pima County, Arizona, indicate that Evans has a criminal record that includes past charges for burglary, robbery, theft, and embezzlement.
  • Official Status: As of February 10, 2026, the FBI and Pima County Sheriff's Department have not named Dominic Evans as a suspect or person of interest.
That's the guy!
 
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I hope not but, sadly, it is a possibility :censored:
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It's possible, but I hope not. That would be the ultimate betrayal.

It seems to me that his wife would have noticed if he had left the house that night, and for a considerable amount of time. I wonder, if so, whether she would have told the police about it. If she didn't tell the police, I wonder how she could live with herself.

All in all, this may end up having been motivated by jealousy which moved over into hatred. If the SIL did this, it could be the police don't have enough evidence to arrest him, but do actually think he did it.

Sadly, that would make sense to me. For me, a stranger abduction is harder to reconcile with the skimpy facts we know.
 
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