No refugees wanted here in RI!

Ralphy1 said:
Some politicians and a lot of the public are shouting out that they aren't wanted. Not even women and children as they would be a burden on our health and education systems that are already stretched to the limit. What is happening where you live?
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PA Governor says, "Bring 'em on." Here in Florida, it's a different story.
 
I am ashamed of the states that say they don't want any refugees. It's embarrassing to see this on the news. Someone in the gym called me a yankee today and I was almost tempted to claim I was Canadian.
 
I have two electric recliners and two TV's (I like backups for everything) just to make sure that I don't miss anything when we go to kick ass...
 
Ameriscot said:
I am ashamed of the states that say they don't want any refugees. It's embarrassing to see this on the news. Someone in the gym called me a yankee today and I was almost tempted to claim I was Canadian.
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Please understand that not all states have recovered from the '09 fiasco. Most states operate now on a very tight budget and have taxed their taxpayers to the limit. Maybe it's not a case of just not wanting them, but a case of not being able to afford them. Healthcare alone accounts for almost 20% of PA's budget, but our Governor, who the newspapers have proclaimed as the most liberal ever, says we will take all that want to come. As for me, I have no opinion, but I remember back when we took in a lot of Vietnam immigrants, it was a financial disaster.

Nobody wants to see others suffer, or at least I hope they don't, but doing what's practical in support of the citizens that are paying the bills to run the state, they also deserve some respect. Don't you think? Seniors in PA get no tax breaks on their real estate taxes, so I pay the same amount as if I was still working and making a good wage. Our real estate taxes goes to the school district that we live in. Every penny of it. Our Medicaid is funded by the Feds, but also by the taxpayers. PA is in a budget struggle right now. We have not had a budget since July 1. The congress and the Governor do not see eye to eye.

Believe it or not, I personally know our Governor. He lived in our Township before becoming elected. I knew that he was liberal, but IMO, he has crossed over the line and is a super liberal, if there is such a thing. I have always enjoyed being around him, but he is and always was a multi-millionaire and has no idea what it's like to have to struggle to make ends meet like so many of our seniors do.

I better stop here. I've gone on enough.
 
I can see it now...........George Dubbya can do the commentary and KFC can have a special on fried chicken and biscuits. Meanwhile the munitions manufacturers will be rubbing their hands together Mr Burns style. Trump could have a new show The Isis Fighter and then later Celebrity Isis Fighter........is that what you had in mind Ralphy??
 
Seeing that you mentioned the guy who got us into this mess, maybe he could house a lot of refugees on his ranch...
 
oldman said:
Please understand that not all states have recovered from the '09 fiasco. Most states operate now on a very tight budget and have taxed their taxpayers to the limit. Maybe it's not a case of just not wanting them, but a case of not being able to afford them. Healthcare alone accounts for almost 20% of PA's budget, but our Governor, who the newspapers have proclaimed as the most liberal ever, says we will take all that want to come. As for me, I have no opinion, but I remember back when we took in a lot of Vietnam immigrants, it was a financial disaster.

Nobody wants to see others suffer, or at least I hope they don't, but doing what's practical in support of the citizens that are paying the bills to run the state, they also deserve some respect. Don't you think? Seniors in PA get no tax breaks on their real estate taxes, so I pay the same amount as if I was still working and making a good wage. Our real estate taxes goes to the school district that we live in. Every penny of it. Our Medicaid is funded by the Feds, but also by the taxpayers. PA is in a budget struggle right now. We have not had a budget since July 1. The congress and the Governor do not see eye to eye.

Believe it or not, I personally know our Governor. He lived in our Township before becoming elected. I knew that he was liberal, but IMO, he has crossed over the line and is a super liberal, if there is such a thing. I have always enjoyed being around him, but he is and always was a multi-millionaire and has no idea what it's like to have to struggle to make ends meet like so many of our seniors do.

I better stop here. I've gone on enough.
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The US is not the only country that suffered in 2008/09. The UK did as well. We've been hit with the current tory government and their OTT austerity that hurts the poor and helps the rich. So we know very well about tight budgets.

It's not all about money that the US is rejecting the refugees. There is a widespread notion that all Muslims are terrorists and I'm sure it's fueled by the likes of Fox news and the GOP.
 
Ameriscot said:
The US is not the only country that suffered in 2008/09. The UK did as well. We've been hit with the current tory government and their OTT austerity that hurts the poor and helps the rich. So we know very well about tight budgets.

It's not all about money that the US is rejecting the refugees. There is a widespread notion that all Muslims are terrorists and I'm sure it's fueled by the likes of Fox news and the GOP.
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It is not a wide spread notion that all are terrorist at all. What has been considered many times is that most want to know that there will be a screening to make sure no terrorist have slipped into the line. Seems reasonable to many folks here in the US. That is what we are waiting for our government to say to all and if they do, then much of the resistance will be gone. Why can't the government say that? Obama is trying to make his last year one for historians to brag about and so far he is well on the wrong foot for now. Maybe he will wake up a bit and get things settled down.
 
BobF said:
It is not a wide spread notion that all are terrorist at all. What has been considered many times is that most want to know that there will be a screening to make sure no terrorist have slipped into the line. Seems reasonable to many folks here in the US. That is what we are waiting for our government to say to all an if they do, then much of the resistance will be gone. Why can't the government say that? Obama is trying to make his last year one for historians to brag about and so far he is well on the wrong foot for now. Maybe he will wake up a bit and get things settled down.
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But he has... somehow I suspect nothing our President says will be good enough...

http://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-reassures-governors-on-syrian-refugees/


Of the 34 governors who participated in the 90-minute call, 13 asked questions, according to the White House. Senior officials on the call included President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and representatives from the Departments of Homeland Security, State and Health and Human Services, the FBI and the National Counterterrorism Center.



Administration officials have said screening for Syrian refugees includes an interview overseas, biometrics, fingerprinting and biographical investigations to determine if individuals are truly worthy of refugee status or if they pose security risks.

“The federal government reaffirmed that refugees go through the highest level of security screening of any category of traveler to the United States,” Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, said in a statement. He added that the State Department prioritizes the most vulnerable groups of people and that half of all Syrian refugees are children.
 
QuickSilver said:
But he has... somehow I suspect nothing our President says will be good enough...

http://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-reassures-governors-on-syrian-refugees/


Of the 34 governors who participated in the 90-minute call, 13 asked questions, according to the White House. Senior officials on the call included President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and representatives from the Departments of Homeland Security, State and Health and Human Services, the FBI and the National Counterterrorism Center.



Administration officials have said screening for Syrian refugees includes an interview overseas, biometrics, fingerprinting and biographical investigations to determine if individuals are truly worthy of refugee status or if they pose security risks.

“The federal government reaffirmed that refugees go through the highest level of security screening of any category of traveler to the United States,” Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, said in a statement. He added that the State Department prioritizes the most vulnerable groups of people and that half of all Syrian refugees are children.
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Very thorough here as well. But nobody here suggested we not take them.
 
QuickSilver said:
But he has... somehow I suspect nothing our President says will be good enough...

http://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-reassures-governors-on-syrian-refugees/


Of the 34 governors who participated in the 90-minute call, 13 asked questions, according to the White House. Senior officials on the call included President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and representatives from the Departments of Homeland Security, State and Health and Human Services, the FBI and the National Counterterrorism Center.



Administration officials have said screening for Syrian refugees includes an interview overseas, biometrics, fingerprinting and biographical investigations to determine if individuals are truly worthy of refugee status or if they pose security risks.

“The federal government reaffirmed that refugees go through the highest level of security screening of any category of traveler to the United States,” Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, said in a statement. He added that the State Department prioritizes the most vulnerable groups of people and that half of all Syrian refugees are children.
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And you were right. Now there are 31 states disagreeing with the President. So the count is going up, not down.
 
BobF said:
And you were right. Now there are 31 states disagreeing with the President. So the count is going up, not down.
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We were talking about the screening process and what the President said to the governors.... Besides... States have no control over if refugees come in or not.. That's a Federal decision.
 
QuickSilver said:
We were talking about the screening process and what the President said to the governors.... Besides... States have no control over if refugees come in or not.. That's a Federal decision.
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Sort of. It was a discretion given to the President a few years back and that can be taken away anytime Congress decides.

And it appears that the President has failed to convince the Governors that the screening is done well and that states with bankruptcy situations don't get considerations.
 
I had to exit a thread on another forum where American posters were spewing paranoid libertarian cant re refugees. So much rage! They call themselves Christian?? Broke my heart. I certainly expressed my feelings of disgust. Sf is a haven of compassion by comparison.
 
BobF said:
Sort of. It was a discretion given to the President a few years back and that can be taken away anytime Congress decides.
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Well... then I guess they better get off their arses and do something... It's doubtful... NONE of them want to go on the record for ANYTHING in an election cycle.
 
Shalimar said:
I had to exit a thread on another forum where American posters were spewing paranoid libertarian cant re refugees. So much rage! They call themselves Christian?? Broke my heart. I certainly expressed my feelings of disgust. Sf is a haven of compassion by comparison.
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I can well imagine... but prefer not to. My fellow Americans can be such D&%kS sometimes.
 
Shalimar said:
I had to exit a thread on another forum where American posters were spewing paranoid libertarian cant re refugees. So much rage! They call themselves Christian?? Broke my heart. I certainly expressed my feelings of disgust. Sf is a haven of compassion by comparison.
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I have a friend on FB that I worked with in TN back in the 90's. She's a fundamentalist christian and republican. But she's a very nice lady so we are still friends. However, she posted today that the TN governor said he didn't want any refugees. She was very happy about that. I would normally ignore this type of post from a FB friend, but had to say something....I said I was ashamed of how Amerians were responding and that a 'good christian' would want to help these poor traumatized kids.
 

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