Should We Use An Atom Bomb Against Isil?

QuickSilver said:
OF COURSE these are mostly all opinions... Bob.. None of us.. including YOU are in the President's inner circle..
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He's not??! I thought the way he spoke so authoritatively on politics that he was 'in the know'.
 

QuickSilver said:
Bob... It's a debate and opinion site..... Should we all just stop posting? Or perhaps run all our replies by you for approval first?
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That is quite right. But do we need repetitive comments by some few that just seem to want to overrun others opinions and allow no rebuttals? That is what is making this so boring and useless. Not the opinions, valued, but the repetitive stuff over and over and over. No allowance for others opinions and of course snotty remarks about those that speak different thoughts about what is going on from the constant repeaters postings.
 
BobF said:
What happened in the Presidents meeting with the Governors last night? What may happen when the French leader comes to talk to Obama? What will happen when the French leader talks to Putin right after talking to Obama?

I guess I will just have to wait to see as this thread is just nuts with ideas and accusations. Nothing to trusts posted here. Just lots of opinions and not much about what is really going on these days.
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Well, I think that the damage George W. Bush has caused is not just my opinion, but well known facts, that the world recognizes.
 

BobF said:
That is quite right. But do we need repetitive comments by some few that just seem to want to overrun others opinions and allow no rebuttals? That is what is making this so boring and useless. Not the opinions, valued, but the repetitive stuff over and over and over. No allowance for others opinions and of course snotty remarks about those that speak different thoughts about what is going on from the constant repeaters postings.
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OMG... look who's against repetitive comments?? Debt debt debt..spring spring spring.....and don't forget the favorite snotty one "TWISTED".. hahahahaha
 
George Bush caused all this. Pure BS. Please show your proofs or stop that repetitive BS.

Debt but that is denied. It is true and needs repeated till some start agreeing. Remember Bill Clinton? While President he did change the welfare rules and those collecting welfare for years were encouraged to get off welfare and get doing something for themselves. Welfare numbers were going down and under Clinton our national debt went down also.

OK repeater, any real ideas that you can create and support?
 
BobF said:
George Bush caused all this. Pure BS. Please show your proofs or stop that repetitive BS.

Debt but that is denied. It is true and needs repeated till some start agreeing. Remember Bill Clinton? While President he did change the welfare rules and those collecting welfare for years were encouraged to get off welfare and get doing something for themselves. Welfare numbers were going down and under Clinton our national debt went down also.

OK repeater, any real ideas that you can create and support?
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Oh stop bob... none of this is in any way pertinent to this thread and topic... You have brought all this same stuff up a million times.... No one cares to continue this futile exchange with you.
 
BobF said:
George Bush caused all this. Pure BS. Please show your proofs or stop that repetitive BS.

Debt but that is denied. It is true and needs repeated till some start agreeing. Remember Bill Clinton? While President he did change the welfare rules and those collecting welfare for years were encouraged to get off welfare and get doing something for themselves. Welfare numbers were going down and under Clinton our national debt went down also.

OK repeater, any real ideas that you can create and support?
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Remember McCain singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"?

If the cons win next year, count on it. Israel may do it before then.

So far, America is the only country insane enough to use a nuke. But I'm pretty sure the next one will set all of them off, like falling dominoes.
 
I dunno if I even want to wander into this minefield. Except to add my three cents that I pray they never unleash another nuclear bomb anywhere. WWII ended almost twenty years before I was born. Maybe if I had been there I'd better understand. But what we did to Japan...I know Pearl Harbor and all the atrocities, but that doesn't justify mass cooking of civilians. No Nukes
 
Is there something that some people don't understand here that this subject was aired on the very respected U.K. BBC2 Radio Jeremy Vine Show? This thought to Nuke Isil is perhaps not the best idea in the world, but it certainly is not the worst.
AND it IS being discussed in many quarters now.

As per here...

http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-we-nuke-syria

And any Americans in particular need to think about this as well...

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150526/1022574546.html

The United States better do a good job fighting Islamic State in the Middle East, otherwise Americans will have to deal with nuclear-armed terrorists on the American soil within a year, Press TV reported.


Islamic State is determined to carry out a terrorist attack inside the United States next year using nuclear weapons obtained from Pakistan, Press TV said.
Terrorists said in their English-language online magazine Dabiq that they plan to buy nuclear weapons in Pakistan and smuggle them into the United States via its southern border with Mexico.
 
Another obvious problem is nuke where? They aren't neatly nested in one specific area. Spooky as it sounds, there might be ISIS supporters embedded in every major country including the US. How do they fight that kind of threat?
 
So many are locked into the idea of warfare the way it used to be... back in the day.... like WWII or Korea.. or Vietnam.. You had a country to fight in.. you knew who the enemy was.... Not today... not with the vast social media and ways of communication.. The enemy is among us.. it's a different world and traditional methods of warfare will not work.
 
I'd say no but apparently some nasty stuff is/has already been used in the Syria region.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...d-saudia-arabia-nuke-yemen-video-3161022.html

If one looks at these videos it makes you wonder. My guess it was a fuel air bomb. Setting aside the theories of who and what that is a devastating weapon hopefully used on a structure and not people. It was also pretty close to a town with people.

Also note Russia wants Assad in power and will only tolerate so much to get him out. As noted it will escalate and get messy fast.
 
fureverywhere said:
I dunno if I even want to wander into this minefield. Except to add my three cents that I pray they never unleash another nuclear bomb anywhere. WWII ended almost twenty years before I was born. Maybe if I had been there I'd better understand. But what we did to Japan...I know Pearl Harbor and all the atrocities, but that doesn't justify mass cooking of civilians. No Nukes
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As you know, I am a lib but as to WW2 and the use of the bombs on Japan, you just had to be here.
 
Some of you can take the hiss if you like.
But perhaps before long, as per the above article Isis will have nuclear capability.

As they shout Ally Ickibar:D (God Is Great) while firing off a Nuke, I just hope that God Bless America is the one that gets it off first.

Heaven help your country if Harry H. Truman had come to this forum during World War Two and asked...

"Hey Guys.
Do you think I should drop an Atom Bomb on Hiroshima"?

Taking some peoples advice here he would have decided against dropping it, and America would likely be now be slaves!

Heaven forbid!
 
QuickSilver said:
So many are locked into the idea of warfare the way it used to be... back in the day.... like WWII or Korea.. or Vietnam.. You had a country to fight in.. you knew who the enemy was.... Not today... not with the vast social media and ways of communication.. The enemy is among us.. it's a different world and traditional methods of warfare will not work.
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QS: Not true. When I was in Vietnam, we couldn't tell who was who. The NVA was not all uniformed. And, we also had to deal with the North's sympathizers. When our platoon would stumble into an un-mapped village, we would secure it and then have our interpreter/guide help us to learn who we were dealing with. (He wasn't known as an interpreter/guide, but I forget what his title was.) As a Recon platoon, our job was to search, identify and report. We were not to engage the enemy. Unfortunately, there were times when we had no choice.

I would imagine it's the same thing with the refugees. They would or may be hard to identify. Believe me, it hurts like all get out when you shoot someone that isn't who you thought it was.
 

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