There are more obese people in the world than underweight people!

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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This is hard to believe but according to an NPR report it is true. We can probably thank the US fast food industry for this development. Make mine a large fry with my quarter pounder...
 

Why surprised? Fast food is cheaper and no cooking.

When you can feed a family of four with a 'family meal' from KFC,why cook?

I personally cook all the time,ill give in for a pizzaa or something once in a while.or souvlaki.
Its not always the fast food though,its also more sugars,more breads,butters.

Ii think fast food has won because of convinience.
 

Everywhere I go, I see substantially overweight people. It's a given that as we age, the pounds "collect", so it becomes doubly important to watch the weight, if we want to remain active and reasonably healthy. It's just not the seniors who are putting on weight....a few days ago we were at the casino buffet, and there was a guy in his 30's who returned to the line at least 4 times while we were eating a modest meal. Watching him shovel down food was like watching a Hog at the trough....and he probably weighed well over 300 lbs.

According to the CDC, at least 30% of our medical costs are Obesity related...and excess weight is the number one reason for health problems...surpassing even smoking.
 
It's called spare time in front of a tv or computer screen. Even worse the current "fitness" culture has produced a generation of worker outers that now have become addicted to having a tv and/or music with them the entire workout via ipods and treadmill tvs.

Unmotivated prima donnas if you ask me.
 
Interesting that our overindulgence in eating is directly blamed on the fast food establishments. Albeit a lot of the blame should be placed there, but if you start to manage your intake closely you will find that most of our pre-packaged foods are also to blame. Sodium is added for flavor in almost all incidents of packaging causing the body to retain water causing BP to rise. BPA used to be the main coating on all canned foods we eat. MSG was added for flavor enhancements & without exception all these additives have been proven to damage the body's ability to process the food normally.

As a diabetic I found that any processed foods had chemicals that affected my BS. I finally came to realize that the only way I could manage it was to read the labels, finally arriving at the conclusion that the only way I could was to prepare all my meals from fresh products & abstain from anything prepackaged or prepared for use by the food industry. I had to quit consuming breads, pastas, anything with processed grains. We stated buying basic ingredients to use in our cooking. Organic range free eggs, meat & fresh thoroughly washed vegetables.

Last weekend I was discussing with my wife some of the things I missed most from my earlier eating habits, two items were mentioned hot dogs & pizza. So as a test we went to our local WinCo, decided to read the labels on the aisle of wieners, we finally settled on turkey franks, very reassuring nutritional label. Took them home that night I had 2 franks boiled & served with mustard. Very low cal/low carb chemical free (or so they said). Next morning my normal BS count was 10 points higher & remained high all day. The next day it had returned somewhat but was still higher than it's been during the last 3 months. It took almost 48 hours to return to normal. No more processed meats for me (including ham, bacon or sausage).
 
There are many things and that's why there is no one surefire solution. I will say diets are basically simple for those with no pre existing condition. Burn more calories than one takes in. It can be done with diet, exercise and/or BOTH.

Processed food ingredients-oh boy. It's not that they are processed it is THE ingredients. One 'ingredient' are the preservatives. If preservatives preserve the food what will preservatives do with fat cells/content in the body? Also a lot athletes complain about cross contamination on foods and supplements causing them to come up positive on a drug test. What do those contaminants do to the non athlete?

My guess fat content or fat type could theoretically cause blood sugar to rise in Turkey dogs.
 
WhatInThe said:
There are many things and that's why there is no one surefire solution. I will say diets are basically simple for those with no pre existing condition. Burn more calories than one takes in. It can be done with diet, exercise and/or BOTH.

Processed food ingredients-oh boy. It's not that they are processed it is THE ingredients. One 'ingredient' are the preservatives. If preservatives preserve the food what will preservatives do with fat cells/content in the body? Also a lot athletes complain about cross contamination on foods and supplements causing them to come up positive on a drug test. What do those contaminants do to the non athlete?

My guess fat content or fat type could theoretically cause blood sugar to rise in Turkey dogs.
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I've tested that conjecture several times, no problems consuming animal fat in my case. I think I could even eat a spoonful of lard & not have it affect my BS, I'm not going to but it's the carb content, I also use unsalted organic butter to cook with, again no problems. Good carbs versus bad carbs, but if you want to lose the weight, lower your overall carb intake along with exercise, walking is mine. Oatmeal is an example of good carbs, corn sugar is an example of bad. I've cut my medication down by 1/3 & still maintain my normal BS count (high 80's low 90's). My next A1C is late this month so we'll see what suggestions my PC will have.
 
I once arrested a man and when booking him in, he weighed in at 477 pounds. Obviously, he was not a cat burglar. On the other side of the coin, I also arrested a female drug addict that probably should have been dead. She was 5'3" and weighed in at 77 pounds. She told me that she had not eaten a meal for almost two weeks. I told her that I would make sure that she was fed as soon as we were done with the booking process. I kept my promise.
 
911 said:
I once arrested a man and when booking him in, he weighed in at 477 pounds. Obviously, he was not a cat burglar. On the other side of the coin, I also arrested a female drug addict that probably should have been dead. She was 5'3" and weighed in at 77 pounds. She told me that she had not eaten a meal for almost two weeks. I told her that I would make sure that she was fed as soon as we were done with the booking process. I kept my promise.
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They say one can go 3 weeks without food. Some say 3 days without water(organ damage risk). Some call it the rule of three.
 
WhatInThe said:
It's called spare time in front of a tv or computer screen. Even worse the current "fitness" culture has produced a generation of worker outers that now have become addicted to having a tv and/or music with them the entire workout via ipods and treadmill tvs.

Unmotivated prima donnas if you ask me.
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Unmotivated????? Are you serious? Do you have any idea at all really, how motivated a lot of those folks really are? Until she started her new job and can't get there as often, my daughter was at the gym six days a week (and she listened to her music throughout her workout). For a 100 pound woman, she's doing bicep curls at 20 pounds each. Who is unmotivated?

And the music serves two purposes. It's chosen to have an energetic beat that can 'lift' their personal energy levels and it drowns out the grunts and groans of the other 'unmotivated' folks who are there achieving goals of physical fitness that are much higher than most people have. Those unmotivated people are also (mostly) eating far better than any of us here and are frequently passing on the donuts, the pie, the toast at breakfast, the second helping.

Just because people are getting their exercise at the gym (instead of 'stooking hay' all day or logging or whatever else) does not mean they are unmotivated, nor are they all prima donna's. That 'fitness culture' is making them healthier and stronger while they are doing it and if more of us were following that example, healthcare costs would go down instead of continuing to rise and drain the system.

Unless of course you have shares in a publicly traded hospital and the medical industry in which case, yes, let's all denigrate people who go to gyms so your shares will go up. Personally I think if those folks were smart, they'd continue with their workouts, listen to their music and make sure they had lots of shares in the medical industry because it's going to keep paying them for decades to come.
 
Isn't it something that large people are ridiculed for how they look while the thin person is thought to be beautiful. Too small and too large can both have serious health problems and eating disorders. They need help.
 
In a perfect world we could channel some our excess to countries where foraged greens even clay or dirt is on the menu, because they are starving. In our over-developed country some people need three seats to accommodate their butt.
 
I have noticed that people who are preoccupied with others' weights and complain about 'fat' people all the time, probably have body image and weight issues themselves. An elderly fanatical thin to the point of skinny 93 year person that I know is constantly slamming everyone that she considers weighs more than she thinks they should. Very rude and very boring IMO.
 
Once while walking in the hallway, a woman I knew well & joked with said, 'It's a shame that large women are subject to ridicule whereas a large man gets away with it.' I turned & said, 'It's because no person in their right mind would walk up behind a large man & shame him about his size & weight, they might survive & regret it.'

Reaching the classification of morbid obese at one time, now I'm only considered overweight with a BMI of 27 weighing in at 210 standing 6'2" tall which will probably be my ideal size. I'm 40 lbs lighter than when I was in HS playing defensive tackle & tossing shot, I'll never reach 180 (normal) & have no plans to, my PC indicated that much to me. He said that with all my numbers & tests where they are, I'm in remarkable shape for my age. He wishes more of his patients would take a page out of my book. Any more weight loss could be determental to my health, but wants me to maintain this level. I did join a gym this past week with plans to use their equipment to build muscle & stamina, my health care plan pays 100% of the membership. Can't hurt.
 
Well I'm fat. I was not fat all my life. I was not even fat after having five kids. I was a size 8. Then I began to have large amounts of daily stress. Every day stress. I began to gain weight rapidly. I kept going to doctors and telling them about the rapid weight gain only to be ignored and answered with "Hmmn". Not one doctor did anything or ordered any tests. I was also having other symptoms which I did not have any idea tied into my thyroid problem, I chalked it up to depression from the stress I was under. I kept gaining..gaining.. I knew something was wrong when I had nothing but water for five days and had gained half a pound. Then I finally got a doctor that actually stopped and listened to me. I have hypothyroidism. By the time I was diagnosed I had gained so so much. My doctor said he thought my thyroid had been affected by stress. Lost some eyesight too because that gland affects your eyes as well. Who knew? Took me a while to get adjusted to the meds. I am STILL trying to get all the fat off. It's slow going. I have leaned much in this quest to lose fat. If I eat ANY of these following things I can just forget any weight loss..
Animal Milk..Cheese..Sugars..white starches..bad fats.
I also discovered that if I wanted to lose weight I need to pack NUTRITIOUS calories into my day as opposed to empty calories. If I pack nutrition into my meals then I am so stuffed by the end of the day I can hardly make myself eat 1200 calories. The best way to never lose weight is to never meal plan. As horrible as meal planning is it's important when you want weight loss. I go to caloriecount.com. I plan my meals and then I look at the nutrition wheel to see how balanced my nutrition is for that day. I try to get an A on my nutrition wheel.
I believe that most people are overweight because they do not fully understand that while they are putting food into their mouths it is not nutritious therefore they keep eating because their bodies have had plenty of empty calories and no adequate nutrition, so they are still craving food.
Eating bad food that is poor in nutrition is a problem of those with little money. They stuff their faces with whatever they can afford to buy and their bodies expand without ever having been properly fed.
Also booze slows down the metabolism & you can just forget the healthy weight loss.
Just my opinion.. I'm not a scientist.

oh yeah.. Falcon and Fur stop looking at our butts LOL.gif

I wanted to add something else.. METABOLISM. My step mothers family eat nothing but junk all day long from dawn til dusk and they are all skinny. They eat horrible fatty starchy foods, candy, junk all day. They are skinny and like to make fun of fat people. Yes..some are just born with the faster metabolism & it sucks when it's a jerk that got that skinny metabolism .
 
I also might add there is a difference between fat and sloppy or thin and sloppy for that matter n' being a proud larger person. There are many women who carry themselves proudly and aren't size four. I just saw a picture of Queen Latifah the other day...
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Now that is a beautiful woman. Even just regular folks, being well groomed and proud of your curves can be gorgeous. Then there are people who have just given up...
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Re: listening to music / watching TV while working out ...

I had always advised my students to eschew these habits; instead, they should be "listening" to their bodies, focusing on what the exercises are doing to them.
 
Oh lord, fat shaming is the last acceptable prejudice. Frankly, it reflects far more on us, than the people shamed. Why do some peeps need to curl their lip, and sail the good ship self-righteous, while flagellating those less fortunate? Mean, just petty,,and

mean. Note, I am not referring to comments made by those who speak out of concern for the health of those persons cursed with morbid obesity.
 
Some people will claim a thyroid condition. Sometimes these are the same people going up to the buffet line five times. And you KNOW they aren't going for the celery sticks.

I don't point and laugh, but I also don't have a lot of sympathy for them.
 
Its so easy to say 'stop eating' or call someone a truck.

Some people disattach themselves to the thought that this is another human being they are laughing and judging.

Depression also is a factor in obesity.

I remember gaining 50 lbs in my first pregnency,I was so emotionally distraught about it.

It didn't take long after to lose it but I remember how I felt.

Not a fun thing.
People don't have to be told they are big,they know.
 
Well Philly, twice in my life I gained a great deal of weight, partially because of incredible stress/PTSD, and partially because I require only half as much food as the average person. Was I an undisciplined, unmotivated, weak person? Hell no, I was

dealing with crap that would have killed most peeps, hiding behind a wall of fat kept me alive, until I was able to face my pain, and shed the weight. Who are we to judge what pain lies behind the eyes of another person, just because we don't have a real problem with weight?
 
I was married to Mr. Body Beautiful. He had a gorgeous freaking body. Hard as a rock all over his entire body. Strong, the athlete, the karate guy. I knew these things about him, I just did not realize how much his love of me was connected to what I looked like. I stupidly never realized I was a trophy wife. I thought I was loved..dumb me. When I had breast cancer and they removed the lump I was riding back from the hospital boob in bandage and he made this comment " Ha ha too much wear and tear time for a new wife." I just sat there in absolute shock at what my ears had just heard. That was slap across the face moment when I ran out of excuses for his nasty comments. When the weight gain happened he made love to me ( I thought) and got up and said " No one can enjoy THAT anymore." Then he stopped having anything to do with me for a solid year until I asked him to get out one day. Had I EVER known it was only my looks he loved when he married me I never would have married Shallow Hal, but alas I was a dummy.
He is the guy that will work a 14 hour day come home and work out. He's since had bad knee issues from constant knee stress and back issues & heart issues. He married a skinny 25 year old girl. He has a slight belly now the first time in his life. She makes fun of him for that & being 'old'. What goes around comes around sometimes.
 
Shalimar said:
Well Philly, twice in my life I gained a great deal of weight, partially because of incredible stress/PTSD, and partially because I require only half as much food as the average person. Was I an undisciplined, unmotivated, weak person? Hell no, I was

dealing with crap that would have killed most peeps, hiding behind a wall of fat kept me alive, until I was able to face my pain, and shed the weight. Who are we to judge what pain lies behind the eyes of another person, just because we don't have a real problem with weight?
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I'm talking about people that don't have real thyroid problems; that are not depressed or diabetic or anything else that would legitimately lead to weight gain.

I'm talking about people that just like eating and have no self-control, no self-discipline.
 

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