Brexit??

The point not much mentioned is that the result of the referendum is merely advisory, not legally binding. Parliament could simply ignore it or vote not to implement it.
 

Unbelievable the arrogance of the "sore losers", not respecting the will of the people. And this farce of a petition against the Brexit result. :mad:
 
Capt Lightning said:
The point not much mentioned is that the result of the referendum is merely advisory, not legally binding. Parliament could simply ignore it or vote not to implement it.
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True it is not legally binding but can you imagine what would happen if the government went against what the people voted? What if that happened after the independence vote in 2014?
 
Meringue said:
Unbelievable the arrogance of the "sore losers", not respecting the will of the people. And this farce of a petition against the Brexit result. :mad:
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Iit appears an anti brexit movement is being jump started by ginning up the stay crowd with the negative news of ONE day. A lot of these people don't understand the markets or things take time. I know the PM over promised but Cameron resigning still puzzles me. Too many petitions or referendums could turn into mob rule real fast. They need to put that effort what they want to see in the EU free era.
 
I did not sign the petition for a second referendum, and won't. I'm cutting way down on my moaning about this and looking forward to casting my second YES vote for Scottish independence. The UK could end up consisting of England and Wales only while Scotland and NI leave the UK and both are in the EU again.
 
Ameriscot said:
True it is not legally binding but can you imagine what would happen if the government went against what the people voted? What if that happened after the independence vote in 2014?
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It might not be up to the government.

If the opposition parties combined with a few Tory rebels, and they're not hard to find, they could vote it down.
 
Laurie said:
It might not be up to the government.

If the opposition parties combined with a few Tory rebels, and they're not hard to find, they could vote it down.
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Wouldn't that cause more political turmoil by ignoring the voters will. Still would have half the country divided.

Are there any EU practices or agreements that would or could remain?
 
Ameriscot said:
True it is not legally binding but can you imagine what would happen if the government went against what the people voted? What if that happened after the independence vote in 2014?
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I merely wondered what the legal position of the referendum was.

I disagree with your thought that N.Ireland would leave the UK, especially if it meant a united Ireland. That would not sit well with the Loyalist community.
 
Capt Lightning said:
I merely wondered what the legal position of the referendum was.

I disagree with your thought that N.Ireland would leave the UK, especially if it meant a united Ireland. That would not sit well with the Loyalist community.
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Agree that it would be very messy to try to reunite Ireland and NI, but Scotland's divorce would be bloodless.
 
As a member of the British Commonwealth of Nations, I felt alienation when Britain joined the Common Market, to which we were excluded, but over the years I got used to it. If they leave now, things will not go back to what they were before, because we Australians have moved on.
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Same goes for New Zealand.
 
NancyM said:
To me it seems strange to vote again. There were just two options, all people who wanted to vote did it
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Except that the leading google search in the UK the day after was "the EU". Many of those interviewed had no clue what they were voting for, or if they did stated that they were casting a protest vote with no chance of it passing. It appears there is a lot of buyers remorse happening there.
 
QuickSilver said:
Except that the leading google search in the UK the day after was "the EU". Many of those interviewed had no clue what they were voting for, or if they did stated that they were casting a protest vote with no chance of it passing. It appears there is a lot of buyers remorse happening there.
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Appears to whom?

Not to anybody I've spoken to. Believe me, anyone who took the trouble to get out and vote knew exactly what they were voting for.

Yes it was protest vote, a protest about not being in charge of our own affairs.
Hoe would you feel in the States about the Supreme Court was overruled by a Pan-American court, whose proceedings weren't even conducted in your own language?

Yes, it was protest vote, too damn right it was a protest vote!
 
Laurie said:
Appears to whom? Not to anybody I've spoken to. Believe me, anyone who took the trouble to get out and vote knew exactly what they were voting for. Yes it was protest vote, a protest about not being in charge of our own affairs. Hoe would you feel in the States about the Supreme Court was overruled by a Pan-American court, whose proceedings weren't even conducted in your own language? Yes, it was protest vote, too damn right it was a protest vote!
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For the most part, I can understand the outcome of this vote, and the desire of the people in the UK to have more control over their own lives. Much the same attitude exists in many of the people in the U.S., who feel that Washington is overstepping its boundaries. Our government is being highly secretive about the negotiations taking place with this TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership), which could ultimately lead to some "international tribunal" overriding the wishes of our own people. Without proper checks and balances, government always tends to assume more power than it should have.
 
Laurie said:
Appears to whom?

Not to anybody I've spoken to. Believe me, anyone who took the trouble to get out and vote knew exactly what they were voting for.

Yes it was protest vote, a protest about not being in charge of our own affairs.
Hoe would you feel in the States about the Supreme Court was overruled by a Pan-American court, whose proceedings weren't even conducted in your own language?

Yes, it was protest vote, too damn right it was a protest vote!
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Well... now you will have to live with it... whatever the ramifications will be.

I guess we here in the States will have to also... as the market is nose diving again today... Love seeing my retirement savings pissed away on a protest vote.
 
Apparently there is some fraud with the petition for a second vote.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407

Sore loser syndrome or organized effort?

I did here one of the commentators point out that many of the older voters either saw what the UK was before the EU and/or voted for/advocated joining the EU. So I think it's fitting that that bracket voters with first hand picture of before/after EU membership had an influence on the brexit vote.
 
"government always tends to assume more power than it should have."

It's not about a government assuming more power, but about a government giving up ever more power, to an organisation whose own auditors have found ""significant errors" since 1995.
 
QuickSilver said:
Well... now you will have to live with it... whatever the ramifications will be.

I guess we here in the States will have to also... as the market is nose diving again today... Love seeing my retirement savings pissed away on a protest vote.
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Don't blame us, blame those who invested your funds in volatile world markets in pursuit of a quick buck.

That's exactly why we voted "Out", to take back control of our own affairs.

If it's any consolation, my retirement income will suffer a lot more that yous!
 
QuickSilver said:
Well... now you will have to live with it... whatever the ramifications will be.

I guess we here in the States will have to also... as the market is nose diving again today... Love seeing my retirement savings pissed away on a protest vote.
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That's a voluntary market reaction by panic sellers. I don't think there is one post UK free EU policy in place yet. It's still mostly speculative trading. Until one actually sells at a loss or gain the ups and downs are on potential paper value. Yeh if one actually had to make a sale now they might lose, especially if they bought recently. Some firms who trade the same stock a thousands of times a day will lose which carries over to funds. But profits can come back just as quick.

Buy Low Sell High still applies
 

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