Equal Pay for Men and Women!

Mike

Mike

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This is the hot potato doing the rounds here
at the moment, the BBC Radio 5 Live, a news
and sports channel is all about this today.

I have always thought that both sexes/genders
should be paid the same and in many cases the
woman should be paid a lot more as they have
to score higher in exams, work better and harder
to keep her position.

In my opinion a woman doesn't deserve to be
penalised because of her sex/gender.

Any time I had a choice, I always chose the Lady.

Mike.
 

Sure, I agree. As long as the job is EXACTLY the same job. None of this business of claiming that a secretaries job is the same as a highway worker. Which actually happened in Oregon.
 
Traveler said:
Sure, I agree. As long as the job is EXACTLY the same job. None of this business of claiming that a secretaries job is the same as a highway worker. Which actually happened in Oregon.
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Agree. I spent my life as a blue collar worker. Pay and benefits were calculated solely on skill level and seniority. Sex had nothing to do with it.
 

The difference in pay between the sexes is not so much
in technical or construction as far as I am aware, but
more in retail, manufacturing, clerical, food and drink
industries, there may be some others, but broadly this
is where the fault lies.

Why I never understood, we are all the same and eat
the same, buy cloths pay rent etc., there is no discount
for women 'though their pay is less in many cases.

Mike.
 
I was fortunate in that when I started teaching the principle of equal pay scales had replaced the older scales where female rates were 85% of the male rates. Also, government teachers with university degrees plus an graduate diploma were paid the same rates as government engineers with a university degree. Gender did not come into it.

Later the government broke the nexus between the two professions and engineers, almost exclusively male, surged ahead of the science and maths teachers who were needed to develop the engineers, doctors and scientists of the future. Males no longer find the teaching profession desirable and there are fewer of them to be found in the classrooms.
 
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Mike said:
This is the hot potato doing the rounds here
at the moment, the BBC Radio 5 Live, a news
and sports channel is all about this today.

I have always thought that both sexes/genders
should be paid the same and in many cases the
woman should be paid a lot more as they have
to score higher in exams, work better and harder
to keep her position.

In my opinion a woman doesn't deserve to be
penalised because of her sex/gender.

Any time I had a choice, I always chose the Lady.

Mike.
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"as they have
to score higher in exams, work better and harder..."

Than whom? Men? If so, why?
 
RadishRose said:
"as they have
to score higher in exams, work better and harder..."

Than whom? Men? If so, why?
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I don't know about scoring higher on exams, but I know that for certain jobs like fireman or police officer, there used to be rigorous physical testing and minimum physical size requirements. (i.e., you had to be at least 5'8" tall and able to lift and carry 150 pounds, etc.) I guess when my house is on fire, I want someone at my window who can carry me down the ladder if necessary. :D
 
RadishRose, it is an unfortunate situation that this
situation that has been allowed to develop here.

The ladies have to get High Passes in exams to be
accepted into what is seen as a man's job, like
engineering. When they get there, in many cases
she then has to be on top of the job or there are
other hurdles put in the way.

I am sorry that it has come to this, but I can not
change things as the same companies think that
I am too old to work for them.

Mike.
 
The fly in the ointment is who decides which jobs are equal.

Like Old Joe Stalin said "he that counts the votes wins".
 
Robusta said:
Agree. I spent my life as a blue collar worker. Pay and benefits were calculated solely on skill level and seniority. Sex had nothing to do with it.
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Same here, blue collar union worker, I did the same jobs as the men and was paid equally. If I felt the jobs were too physical or demanding, then I would have changed occupations. I wouldn't expect equal pay if I wasn't able to do all the job entailed. I don't think the employer should have to pay a woman more in a situation like that, why should they when they could save money and hire a man to do it?
 
Where I worked, United Airlines, we were union. Every pilot was paid the same "base" pay, but then there was added compensation based on one's evaluations. I can't remember anyone ever asking me how much I earned per flight hour, so they could compare my wage to their's. And, even if someone would have asked, I would not have told them. I was a Senior Captain that also trained other pilots from time to time, so yes, I did earn an above average salary.
 
Wandrin said:
Equal job = equal pay. That sounds simple enough. Why is it taking so many decades to accomplish this seemingly obvious thing?
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The only place I see a demonstrated difference is in the executive ranks. As a person that earned a living far below those exalted halls, frankly I don't give a hoot! The executive class man or woman has done more to hurt the working person than any other sub species known to man.
 
I have a commission based pay. I guess that is an equal opportunity pay system. It's based on how well I take care of people so gender doesn't really matter.
 

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