What Do You Think of Bisexuality?

C'est Moi said:
I think Christians should remember the teachings of their religion.

The New Testament text is as follows: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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If people didn't judge, they could easily get around the wrong type of people........like drug users and other very undesirable folks. Am I right?? So many people judge and just simply don't want to admit it.
This minister judges and reads directly from the Bible and his congregation stands and applauds him for it. He and them yell out, "praise the Lord".
 

rgp said:
And yet you felt compelled to make this statement;.....

"BTW, my wife feels the same way I do. Her and her sister will bring out their Bible's and tell you what it says about the subject. "
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Because, like myself, they are PROUD to be Christians and have the beliefs they have. Although, my SIL belief in Bisexual isn't exactly the way it was before her granddaughter came out and said she is Bi. To keep the granddaughter in her life, apparently she has to go the other way in her belief of this sexuality.
 
I think what ALL of us in this forum need (no, not "need", better word....MUST) remember is that not everyone will agree with everyone. The GLBT topic is a highly controversial one, just like some other topics can be. Wife and I have been criticized for not wanting to be around smokers. IOW, criticized for the type of friends we look for. Some folks completely understand our feelings and will reply with support, while others will completely criticize us for our feelings.
 

I don't care what consenting adults do - sexually - in the privacy of their own homes. However, I'm old fashioned. I don't care for overt or extreme public displays of one's sexual orientation just as I don't care for passionate displays of hetro affection in public. IOW be what you will but keep it to yourself.

Knowing a loved one was either gay or bi would not affect my love.
 
I think every individuals actions/beliefs are between them and God. :love_heart: As long as they aren't hurting anybody, of course.
 
Ok, let's look at it this way, for example:

How would you handle it if your son, daughter, niece, nephew, uncle, aunt, brother or sister showed up at your home, holding hands with a same-sex person. They sit down, next to each other on your couch and start holding hands? Some of you would accept this, some of you definitely would not.
If you son or daughter broke the news to you that they were dating a same-sex person?

Then, there was the Netflix series called Grace and Frankie, where the ladies had husbands and the husbands decided to divorce them and live together themselves. The husbands announced, during a dinner together, that they were in love with each other and going to divorce them (their wife's, sitting at the table). The one husband was Martin Sheen and the wives were Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin. The show showed both of the ex-husbands in bed together, talking. The show was hilarious, but how would YOU handle hearing this from your wife or husband at an extremely nice restaurant at dinner........"I'm in love with a man (or woman) and divorcing you."
 
JudyB said:
I think every individuals actions/beliefs are between them and God. :love_heart: As long as they aren't hurting anybody, of course.
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And, THIS is exactly what the GLBT community wants to hear. Makes them extremely happy. They can do what they want with nobody saying anything.

And, absolutely not, "between them and God". Society has always judged and will always judge.
 
We were planning a trip to Disney World's Hollywood Studio's a couple of years ago. We mentioned this to an older lady at a Walmart and she told us "definitely don't go the fist Saturday in June." We asked her "why?". She said, "That's Gay Pride Week". We told her we appreciated the info and wouldn't go to after that.

There is actually an International Gay Rodeo Association, but don't ask any of the rodeo cowboys I knew about it. I found out quickly they are totally against it. "Those dudes aren't cowboys, their gay and that isn't being a cowboy. Yes, they can ride a bronc or rope, but that's just plain luck they can do that". I never asked another rodeo cowboy what they thought about the Association.
 
ClassicRockr said:
Ok, let's look at it this way, for example:

How would you handle it if your son, daughter, niece, nephew, uncle, aunt, brother or sister showed up at your home, holding hands with a same-sex person. They sit down, next to each other on your couch and start holding hands? Some of you would accept this, some of you definitely would not.
If you son or daughter broke the news to you that they were dating a same-sex person?

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Been there, done that. My niece is gay. I do not love her less because of it. Saying someone chooses to be gay is absurd. Do straight people chose to be straight? Or did we just know?
How would YOU feel if your daighter came home with her boyfriend and sat together and held hands, or kissed each other on the cheek? Why is this different?
 
ClassicRockr said:
If people didn't judge, they could easily get around the wrong type of people........like drug users and other very undesirable folks. Am I right?? So many people judge and just simply don't want to admit it.
This minister judges and reads directly from the Bible and his congregation stands and applauds him for it. He and them yell out, "praise the Lord".
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"If people didn't judge, they could easily get around the wrong type of people........like drug users and other very undesirable folks. Am I right?? So many people judge and just simply don't want to admit it. "

 So in other words you , yourself,.. dispute this book you tout so loudly?
 
What if some morning we all woke up and all was in reverse? People who sere straight were considered vile, evil and going against "God's will"? What if we were not allowed to legally marry, or adopt a child? What if we were beat up for holding hands with our partner in public? Or told "Sorry, I will not bake you a wedding cake because your lifestyle offends me?
BTW, I am a Christian who feels you cannot pick and choose which Bible passages to believe.
 
ClassicRockr said:
And, THIS is exactly what the GLBT community wants to hear. Makes them extremely happy. They can do what they want with nobody saying anything.

And, absolutely not, "between them and God". Society has always judged and will always judge.
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As has been said...if they kept it behind closed doors, no one would say anything , because no one would know.

And as also said...why shouldn't they be happy ? & do what they want ? Are they hurting you by living their life , their way ?
 
ClassicRockr said:
And, THIS is exactly what the GLBT community wants to hear. Makes them extremely happy. They can do what they want with nobody saying anything.

And, absolutely not, "between them and God". Society has always judged and will always judge.
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ClassicRockr
You make ‘tolerance’ of others seem like it’s a weakness or inferior character.


What does religion have to do with peoples personal preferences? Aren’t people born into their religion ? And what if people actually ARE born homosexual? Or bisexual ? Are they to be persecuted because of it? Shunned and shamed?


What’s even sadder is that it’s all in the name of religion? Another element to add to the reason to judge, conquer and divide us as humans.


Tolerance of others isn’t a character flaw but something we should all hope to uphold if we want humanity to survive.


I don’t consider myself bisexual but I bless and support all humans no matter what their sexual preference or how they’d like to be addressed. That doesn’t make me of immoral character.


How people live and who they love are nobody business but their own. I’m for supporting everyone to do whatever they want as long as it’s not hurting others.


What if you had a child that told you they were gay? Would you abandon them because of it or try and talk them out of being gay?
 
Keesha said:
ClassicRockr
You make ‘tolerance’ of others seem like it’s a weakness or inferior character.


What does religion have to do with peoples personal preferences? Aren’t people born into their religion ? And what if people actually ARE born homosexual? Or bisexual ? Are they to be persecuted because of it? Shunned and shamed?


What’s even sadder is that it’s all in the name of religion? Another element to add to the reason to judge, conquer and divide us as humans.


Tolerance of others isn’t a character flaw but something we should all hope to uphold if we want humanity to survive.


I don’t consider myself bisexual but I bless and support all humans no matter what their sexual preference or how they’d like to be addressed. That doesn’t make me of immoral character.


How people live and who they love are nobody business but their own. I’m for supporting everyone to do whatever they want as long as it’s not hurting others.


What if you had a child that told you they were gay? Would you abandon them because of it or try and talk them out of being gay?
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The word "tolerance" only goes so far. Another thing about the word "tolerance", you have an extremely hard time "tolerating" how we feel. So, "tolerance" works both ways.

Society in itself will never be tolerant, in general. There will always be discrimination and racism in one way or another........no matter how much we hope it ends. There are those that "want what they want" and will yell "discrimination" or "racism" to get what they want.

On the Relocation forum I'm on, a person who is GLT or Bi will ask how the area is they are thinking about moving to. They know that not all areas of the U.S. are tolerant of the different sexualities. Some folks will tell them "I wouldn't move here".

The U.S. will NEVER be what many would love to see it be.......totally tolerant of almost everything.

One thing to remember, what you think of yourself, may not be always what others think of you. In many ways, I was disliked in So California due to my "cowboy" and "small town" behavior. I knew, without a doubt, I had to leave and did. Being around true country, farm and ranch folks in parts of the Rocky Mountain and Plains States, who agree with wife and my feelings, is what we like.
 
Marie, thank you! That West Wing film clip was perfect! (I loved that show, and it was nice to revisit, if only for 3 minutes.)

Rocker, you sound pretty hysterical on this subject. I suggest that you take a deep breath, try to see the bigger picture (not all of us are Christians, and not all Christians agree with you, in fact, most do not), and ask yourself what Jesus would think about all this. Not some ranting preacher your wife listens to on her laptop.

About the "family member" question, I do have members of my family who are openly gay, and I love them dearly. Most of us probably have gay relatives. I suspect that you do also, though you may not be aware of it. Until recently, the Puritans among us have managed to ostracize and shame gay/bisexual people into silence. Thankfully, that's largely over.
 
Marie5656 said:
Been there, done that. My niece is gay. I do not love her less because of it. Saying someone chooses to be gay is absurd. Do straight people chose to be straight? Or did we just know?
How would YOU feel if your daighter came home with her boyfriend and sat together and held hands, or kissed each other on the cheek? Why is this different?
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Why can't we just see it as "different" and be accepted for that???? Heck, my SIL doesn't even want to think about the fact that her granddaughter may end up being total lesbian if she stays with this girlfriend and has nothing romantically do to with men anymore. The entire thing with the Great Niece is a "mind-blower" for the entire family.

There are families that do totally reject their child if he/she comes out and says that are Bi or whatever. But, that is the families choice on how to handle what they are told.

Last week I read online about Jackie Chan's daughter, from a Model he was with. His daughter was homeless and proclaimed she was a lesbian. Had a girlfriend. His daughter complained that they had tried everywhere to get help, but have been refused and have to stay homeless. The daughter's mother stated that both girls should get a job and both the Model and Jackie denounced their daughter was a lesbian and absolutely wouldn't help her, and girlfriend, with money. They are totally rejecting her.
 
My eldest granddaughter is gay.She is 23. Do we love her any less because she is gay? Heck no! The only problem we have with her is that she moved to Alaska when she was 19 and we almost never get to see her!

My eldest sister`s two very best,lifelong friends are gay. They are not partners,by the way. Because my sister is 11 years older than me,these two women have been in my life since I was a very small child. One of them was one of my teachers in high school,in fact. Because I was raised with them,I never thought anything about their "lifestyle". I`m thinking I must have been in high school before it even occured to me that they were gay. And it didn`t matter to me at all. They were just Betty and Lynn to me,and I loved them like aunts. Sadly today,they are both in the final stages of Alzheimers. I guess there are some who would have a field day with that one.

I am not one who cares to have close neighbors-hence we have long chosen to live more "out in the country". But in our earlier years,we did always have close neighbors (which is why we ended up choosing not to lol) and the only exception to our "no neighbors wanted" rule were our neighbors Frances and Elsie,an elderly gay couple who lived next door. They looked after us and our kids and we looked after them. But they always minded their own business and so did we. And their lifestyle was their own business. They are both gone now.
 
Sunny said:
Marie, thank you! That West Wing film clip was perfect! (I loved that show, and it was nice to revisit, if only for 3 minutes.)

Rocker, you sound pretty hysterical on this subject. I suggest that you take a deep breath, try to see the bigger picture (not all of us are Christians, and not all Christians agree with you, in fact, most do not), and ask yourself what Jesus would think about all this. Not some ranting preacher your wife listens to on her laptop.

About the "family member" question, I do have members of my family who are openly gay, and I love them dearly. Most of us probably have gay relatives. I suspect that you do also, though you may not be aware of it. Until recently, the Puritans among us have managed to ostracize and shame gay/bisexual people into silence. Thankfully, that's largely over.
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And, what would Jesus think of you calling a Preacher, a man spreading his and his Fathers Word, a name???

Our Great Niece has proclaimed that she is Bi and it really shocked the family. We no longer keep in contact with her and that is entirely up to us.

I seriously doubt that there are lots of members in this forum that know or have family members that are GLBT types. If they do, that's up to them, but I sure don't have to agree with how they feel.

Can't anyone here get it through their heads, there are those that don't agree with how you feel. Isn't that ok???? Isn't that called "Freedom of Feelings" for both sides?
 
Mrs. Robinson said:
My eldest granddaughter is gay.She is 23. Do we love her any less because she is gay? Heck no! The only problem we have with her is that she moved to Alaska when she was 19 and we almost never get to see her!

My eldest sister`s two very best,lifelong friends are gay. They are not partners,by the way. Because my sister is 11 years older than me,these two women have been in my life since I was a very small child. One of them was one of my teachers in high school,in fact. Because I was raised with them,I never thought anything about their "lifestyle". I`m thinking I must have been in high school before it even occured to me that they were gay. And it didn`t matter to me at all. They were just Betty and Lynn to me,and I loved them like aunts. Sadly today,they are both in the final stages of Alzheimers. I guess there are some who would have a field day with that one.

I am not one who cares to have close neighbors-hence we have long chosen to live more "out in the country". But in our earlier years,we did always have close neighbors (which is why we ended up choosing not to lol) and the only exception to our "no neighbors wanted" rule were our neighbors Frances and Elsie,an elderly gay couple who lived next door. They looked after us and our kids and we looked after them. But they always minded their own business and so did we. And their lifestyle was their own business. They are both gone now.
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But, what about those that disagree with the lifestyle......isn't that ok??? And, like already stated by me, there are families that have rejected someone who was GLT or Bi. That's entirely up to the family, right? And, there are those that will immediately move out of a home, due to a next door neighbor being gay or whatever. I've seen that happen and that's fine to me.
 
I just don't get it. Traveler and I were criticized up and down for how we thought about the immigrant thing. Why? Just because I happen to agree with him? And now, that wife and I don't agree with the whole GLTB thing, we are bad. No wonder the U.S. and the world is in the shape it is. I should have to accept your feelings and visa/versa. IOW, "agree to disagree".

Oh, just happen to think, this (above) doesn't make for interesting Threads, right? Agreeing to disagree is much to easy to do. It's easier to argue:)
 
I left this forum once, for certain reasons, and it appears it's time to do that again. Will I return, many sure hope not. So, without further delay...........
 

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