The Me Too Movement and Me...and Possibly You

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The Me Too Movement and Me...and Possibly You

17, 700,000 women have reported sexual assault since 1998

The Me Too Movement is an international movement against sexual harassment and assault. Starting in October of 2017 #MeToo spread virally on social media to help attest to the widespread prevalence of sexual assault and harassment. A wave of accusations arose soon after the public revelations of sexual misconduct allegations against Harvey Weinstein, a Hollywood executive.

In 2006 Tarana Burke, a social activist and community organizer, began using the phrase "Me Too". The phrase was made popular by Alyssa Milano in 2017 when she encouraged women to tweet about it and "give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem". Responses on Twitter included high-profile posts from celebrities including Gwyneth Paltrow, Ashley Judd, Jennifer Lawrence and Uma Thurman. Since then the response has mushroomed.

The problem is an old one. Women have always been sexually harassed, assaulted and raped. Often through out history women had no way to combat it. Men were physically stronger. Women who experienced these issues were in fact often blamed for causing the problems and were not believed.

Why did women not report the issues? Because people often did not believe them. One of my cousins, as I was growing up, was raped at the age of fourteen. The majority of my family did not believe her. They called her promiscuous. When my first husband was on jury duty I sat in on a rape trial with him. I was twenty. As we watched the proceedings, the court system painted the woman as wanton and demonized her in a number of ways. At the time my husband said that a woman could not be raped.

So a couple of years later when a guy I thought was a friend raped me I knew if I told the police three things would happen. First, my marriage would breakup, and at the time I did not earn enough money to afford an alternate place to live. Second, the court system would do to me what they did to that poor woman I watch on the stand. They left her in tatters. Third, most of my family would call me a whore. It was the early seventies, and women were still seen as men's property or playthings. Dan, the guy who raped me, planned it very carefully. He was one of my coworkers at the school district where I worked as a clerk. He was 330 lbs, a weightlifter and 6'3" tall. I weighed 110 lbs and was 5'3". I will spare you the details, but he was way stronger than I was. Afterward he wondered why I was upset and why "I" had ended our "friendship".

The events of recent years with all the women coming forward to state what happened to them at the hands of those with power over them, has given support to others, who now don't feel so alone. But often these women are still not believed. These types of crimes against women reach into the highest offices in the U.S. Unfortunately, people often still believe these men instead of their victims.

Even on social media sites it still happens. Unwanted sexual harassment in the form of a man telling a woman in crude detail what he's doing to himself, while he looks at her picture, even when she has made it very clear over and over that she is not interested. This has happened to me. The last time was a few days a go on another forum. It took me so by surprise and so angered me, that I wrote my response to him, deleted what he had said, because it was so disgusting and sent my response. I unfriended him and told the other women I know on the site to be wary of him. One of them got back to me saying that she has been staying off the site, so the guys wouldn't bother her.

Ladies and the good guys on this site, I'm asking you to stand with me on this issue. If this happens to you here, please save the evidence and report it.

We need to stop this, here and now. No still means NO.

To join the Me Too Movement go to https://metoomvmt.org/ They have a list of resources.
 

I think about how this will affect my grandsons, and granddaughters, sorry world you people are trying to make, this movement is a bad example for my grandkids, just how I feel, now what's going to come up next?, just sick and tired of people , trying to divide men and women, people of of color, puting us against one another.
 
I think about how this will affect my grandsons, and granddaughters, sorry world you people are trying to make, this movement is a bad example for my grandkids, just how I feel, now what's going to come up next?, just sick and tired of people , trying to divide men and women, people of of color, puting us against one another.

Maybe bring up your sons to respect women and then what would you see the problem with that? Unless, you just don't believe sexist behaviour never happens? And that would be the problem right here. I guess you'd have to be female to understand that. And that's the point.
 

Olivia sexual assault never happens to a male?
Maybe bring up your sons to respect women and then what would you see the problem with that? Unless, you just don't believe sexist behaviour never happens? And that would be the problem right here. I guess you'd have to be female to understand that. And that's the point.
 
John, Have you ever been raped? Do you know what that feels like? Do you know how awful it is to have someone force themselves on you? How would you like Bubba to do that to you, and know that when you brought charges against Bubba, no one would believe you? Apparently, not or you would not be taking the stance you are taking. No one, male or female wants to be treated with this kind of violence and disrespect. Please take the time to put yourself in the place of people who this has happened to. That's where our humanity begins - with empathy.
 
Phoenix, thank you for your post!
I'm reminded of the physical abuse and trauma that women were willing to endure just to get the vote, never mind property ownership, inheritance rights, and agency regarding their own bodies.
I stay focused on the future where dignity -- hopefully -- will be recognized in each person.
I am grateful for the men who are already at that point, but so much still has to be accomplished. Sigh.
Your friend, down here in the weeds :D
Bev
 
I've been tortured
John, Have you ever been raped? Do you know what that feels like? Do you know how awful it is to have someone force themselves on you? How would you like Bubba to do that to you, and know that when you brought charges against Bubba, no one would believe you? Apparently, not or you would not be taking the stance you are taking. No one, male or female wants to be treated with this kind of violence and disrespect. Please take the time to put yourself in the place of people who this has happened to. That's where our humanity begins - with empathy.
 
Phoenix, thank you for your post!
I'm reminded of the physical abuse and trauma that women were willing to endure just to get the vote, never mind property ownership, inheritance rights, and agency regarding their own bodies.
I stay focused on the future where dignity -- hopefully -- will be recognized in each person.
I am grateful for the men who are already at that point, but so much still has to be accomplished. Sigh.
Your friend, down here in the weeds :D
Bev

Thanks for your support. Yes, we still have a long way to go. I just thought I was past the age where anyone would harass me. I guess a pervert does not care who and what he abuses and how. So you are in the weeds and I'm in the toolies. They must meet somewhere.
Namaste, Vi
 
I've been tortured
My deepest condolences on what you have endured. I work with vets, many still suffer from PTSD as a result of such horror. I am not a vet, but I also have been tortured, raped, beaten, left for dead. We are not so different. I have also known males who suffered as I did. My empathy for you rises from the ashes of my own suffering, please reach out to us out of the ashes of your own. We are all survivors who need to stand for each other. Thank you for your service. ❤️
 
To my sisters, and some brothers too, who have suffered violence, physical, emotional, sexual, in whatever combination, for whatever length of time, I recognise the depth of your pain, and the strength it requires to survive. I salute your courage. As we all know, the scars are deep, the fight to thrive lifelong. But, we are not alone, along with our allies/loved ones, we have

each other. Let us form a chain of hands to bolster each other, and let us testify before humanity to keep our stories mindful in the hearts of others, fostering positive change. Love to you all. ❤️
 
Great OP Phoenix, about MeToo. Sadly there are folks, usually older men, who still think that Bill Cosby and Harvey Winestein were the victims. Nothing will ever overcome their ignorance except their own demise.
 
Radish Rose, the walking to the store issue has always been with us. Yes, we are tired of it. Sometimes I think a meatgrinder is the appropriate tool for the offender. I know - then they'd just use a broom. Still...

Shalimar, I'm so sorry for all that you endured. It sounds much worse than it was for me. And your vets - my word, what we humans do to each other. It's inhumane. I recently found a meditation on youtube that is helping me to leave it all behind. I just found it hard to believe that as an old woman, this guy would think that I wanted to read about what he was doing to himself while he looked at my pictures. He told me it was a compliment. In a pig's eye. A guy can get turned on by casually rubbing up against something. But it's a lesson, one to be embraced. I work to grow strong from each one.:)
 
Then you should understand what it's like to have something forced onto you and be in sympathy with these women and myself, who have been abused.
Yes he should understand!. And folks should raise their children to respect men and women. I remember the days when women were afraid for their jobs and would not report abuse. When I worked I paid attention to those things. I was harassed by a staff member who was calling me at night and not say anything but kept doing it. My boss found out who it was in a round about way and advised him that if I got another 2:00 am call, he was fired. Never got another call after that. He just called me into his office and said if I got another call to let him know.
 
Radish Rose, the walking to the store issue has always been with us. Yes, we are tired of it. Sometimes I think a meatgrinder is the appropriate tool for the offender. I know - then they'd just use a broom. Still...

Shalimar, I'm so sorry for all that you endured. It sounds much worse than it was for me. And your vets - my word, what we humans do to each other. It's inhumane. I recently found a meditation on youtube that is helping me to leave it all behind. I just found it hard to believe that as an old woman, this guy would think that I wanted to read about what he was doing to himself while he looked at my pictures. He told me it was a compliment. In a pig's eye. A guy can get turned on by casually rubbing up against something. But it's a lesson, one to be embraced. I work to grow strong from each one.:)

Thank you for your support, Phoenix. I am sorry for the abuse you have incurred also. Pain is pain, doesn’t really matter which bus we came in on, we all arrive in Hell. Each of our stories matter. As for that pervert, do not let him steal your peace.❤️
 
Yes he should understand!. And folks should raise their children to respect men and women. I remember the days when women were afraid for their jobs and would not report abuse. When I worked I paid attention to those things. I was harassed by a staff member who was calling me at night and not say anything but kept doing it. My boss found out who it was in a round about way and advised him that if I got another 2:00 am call, he was fired. Never got another call after that. He just called me into his office and said if I got another call to let him know.

I'm so glad it worked.
 
Thank you for your support, Phoenix. I am sorry for the abuse you have incurred also. Pain is pain, doesn’t really matter which bus we came in on, we all arrive in Hell. Each of our stories matter. As for that pervert, do not let him steal your peace.❤️

Thank you. I was pissed. But I'm over it now. Something happened because of the exchange, a positive thing within me. When I realized I was now the elder, that I had grown and no longer had the mindset of a victim, it was a growth producing moment. One that came on me like a moment of satori. I didn't rationalize it at all. It was just there.
 
Thank you. I was pissed. But I'm over it now. Something happened because of the exchange, a positive thing within me. When I realized I was now the elder, that I had grown and no longer had the mindset of a victim, it was a growth producing moment. One that came on me like a moment of satori. I didn't rationalize it at all. It was just there.
The best moments of enlightenment often catch us by surprise. A teacher once told me that intelligence is often a barrier to enlightenment. I was quite insulted, until I discovered it to be true often enough. Sometimes we overthink things instead of just allowing space for change.
 

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