Fatal shooting - argument in parking lot

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applecruncher said:
Radish Rose, please stick to topic.
If you want to discuss killings in Chicago within races you need to start another thread.
And good luck with that.

Knight's post has no relevance whatsoever to the topic. NONE.

This thread is about the Drejka shooting in Florida.
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The news media & a few folks on certain forums made it about race. So IMO R/R is right on point. Only the location differs.

It's always a big deal / news story, when a white guy or a cop shoots a black guy. But barely a whisper when black guys shoot other black guys. {Example last weekend in Chicago}....60+ ​such shootings occurred!
 

applecruncher said:
Radish Rose, please stick to topic.
If you want to discuss killings in Chicago within races you need to start another thread.
And good luck with that.

Knight's post has no relevance whatsoever to the topic. NONE.

This thread is about the Drejka shooting in Florida.
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I did ask why this particular death was more important than the massive amount of deaths in Chicago. No opinion on why this death is more important?
 
applecruncher said:
Radish Rose, please stick to topic.
If you want to discuss killings in Chicago within races you need to start another thread.
And good luck with that.

Knight's post has no relevance whatsoever to the topic. NONE.

This thread is about the Drejka shooting in Florida.
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No, I don't really care to start a topic on that at this time, but maybe later.. I know what this this thread is about, Boss! My post to Knights link was my gut reaction as I guess you have figured.
 

Hmmm.

Maybe a couple people are upset about Drejka being arrested and charged, so they're tossing in some racial flames to try to get the thread locked.

:whome:
 
applecruncher said:
Hmmm.

Maybe a couple people are upset about Drejka being arrested and charged, so they're tossing in some racial flames to try to get the thread locked.

:whome:
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The racial component was introduced long before his arrest...And it was the old & getting very tired ,white guy shoots black guy angle.
 
Drejka initiated the confrontation by approaching gf sitting in her car and screaming so loudly that a witness alerted McGlockton. In the video Drejka can be seen waving his hand making a gesture at the woman.

Some want to start the clock with the shove but they can't do that. The clock for this episode starts earlier...and for the perps actions starts weeks and months beforehand with violent threats, brandishing his gun, etc.
 
applecruncher said:
Drejka initiated bthe confrontation by approaching gf sitting in her car and screaming so loudly that a witness alerted McGlockton.

You can't start the clock at the shove. The clock for this episode starts earlier...and for the perps actions starts weeks and months beforehand with violent threats, etc.
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Exactly correct....the clock started when the self serving, arrogant driver parked in the handicapped parking space!
 
I think this trial will be interesting, to say the least.

I'd like to hear what the witnesses said, since we don't know from the video. Obviously their statements were taken into account when the decision was made to arrest and charge Drejka.

And, in the article I posted earlier (#190) he pulled a gun on a woman with children in her car in a school zone! He pulled a gun on teenagers for stopping at a yellow light! A month prior to the incident he threatened ti kill another guy in that same parking lot, Drejka was a powder keg waiting to go off.

"Concern for the handicapped"? :rolleyes: Riiiiight.
 
applecruncher said:
I think this trial will be interesting, to say the least.

I'd like to hear what the witnesses said, since we don't know from the video. Obviously their statements were taken into account when the decision was made to arrest and charge Drejka.

And, in the article I posted earlier (#190) he pulled a gun on a woman with children in her car in a school zone! He pulled a gun on teenagers for stopping at a yellow light! A month prior to the incident he threatened ti kill another guy in that same parking lot, Drejka was a powder keg waiting to go off.

"Concern for the handicapped"? :rolleyes: Riiiiight
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You post this ...........


Radish Rose, please stick to topic.
If you want to discuss killings in Chicago within races you need to start another thread.
And good luck with that.

Then you post this...

And, in the article I posted earlier (#190) he pulled a gun on a woman with children in her car in a school zone! He pulled a gun on teenagers for stopping at a yellow light! A month prior to the incident he threatened ti kill another guy in that same parking lot, Drejka was a powder keg waiting to go off.

This thread is about the Drejka shooting in Florida.

So....it's OK for you to go off topic?...But no one else?
 
applecruncher said:
Drejka initiated the confrontation by approaching gf sitting in her car and screaming so loudly that a witness alerted McGlockton. In the video Drejka can be seen waving his hand making a gesture at the woman.

Some want to start the clock with the shove but they can't do that. The clock for this episode starts earlier...and for the perps actions starts weeks and months beforehand with violent threats, brandishing his gun, etc.
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I agree with you April. The incident started with Drejka verbally attacking the woman over a parking place, which was none of his business in the first place. Private citizens do not have the right to patrol parking lots berating others over their parking, whether in a legal space or not.
 
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RadishRose said:
Knight, to answer your question- it's not more important. ALL wrongful deaths are important. There's lots of press on others. There are just so many, sadly.
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The judicial system will sort this out. Will the SYG defense work to aquit him? We'll have to wait.

The video shows a driver being approached in a car. The person approaching for whatever reason has a dislike of people parking in a handicapped space when they don't have a legal reason to. The 1st. few seconds the person approaching checks for a valid plate or placard. Next is pointing out open spaces for non handicapped. How it got to shouting only mind readers know. I am not a mind reader, wasn't there, didn't hear the driver apologize for being ignorant.
Next is the driver getting out of the car and some man approaching and attacking the man concerned with illegal parking. It's all downhill from there.

From the video point & shoot towards center mass is what I see. Taking time to position to aim isn't there for me. Shooting towards center mass doesn't automatically mean death. will be the result. Stopping the threat to additional harm is the reason for shooting towards the large part of the body. Was there additional threat? Could a verbal threat & backing up to reposition to cause further harm be the reason? I don't know because I wasn't there & there was no sound on the video. What I do know is instead of standing between the girfriend & asking what the problem was, an immediate physical assault took place.
As you pointed out

there's lots of press on others.
I condensed the article.
U.S.
Fla. Mom-of-3 Fatally Shot While Ordering Breakfast at Drive-Thru — and Suspect Is on the Loose
A Florida mom of three young sons was fatally shot while ordering breakfast at a McDonald’s drive-thru Friday, PEOPLE confirms.
Jamie Marie Roque, of Jacksonville, was fatally shot Friday morning, a Jacksonville County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson tells PEOPLE.

Roque was the mother of three boys, two of whom had autism, a relative told the Florida Times-Union.
The gunman, described by witnesses as a heavyset African American man, fled the scene in a white four-door vehicle heading east on Baymeadows Road.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fla-mom-3-fatally-shot-212833825.html

Is this less because the SYG defense isn't part of the crime?

IMO SYG is national news because SYG is controversial. This & another case may have an effect on the Florida SYG law.
 
Unfortunately, people being shot and killed in the US is so commonplace that it's a borderline cliche. Only distinguishing circumstances (like SYG) now make a gun killing newsworthy in this country.
What a sad statement.
 
It relates to StarSong's comment about how commonplace shootings have become in the U.S.

Yesterday's paper had an article about charges being brought in the Drejka shooting. It pinpointed the SYG law as being a large cause of the trouble, and talked about how the Drajka case had revived debate about SYG.
 
Far too many Americans live their daily lives half a step away from full blown rage. And a whole lot of them feel entitled to be armed to the teeth 24-7. What could possibly go wrong?
 
applecruncher said:
RR is right - not a SYG issue.
How does it relate to the Drejka case?
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Maybe it's he's black man committing a crime? Otherwise, I don't get it either or I could pull up tons of shooting cases that really match the actual subject matter without quesion. I'm as confused.

Better yet, I can post any random thing that could have ended up applying

 
@ AprilT

Yes, that's my point.

There's a lot of anger & rage, and too many people are getting killed. I think we all know that.
But, while I realize some people make understandable observations about guns, rage, race, etc. I just prefer not to have this discussion wander into a general discussion about killings. This discussion is supposed to be about the Drejka/McGlockton shooting. There are plenty of things to say about that specific incident.
 
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