Some events we are told never to forget Covid is not one of them.

I can talk authoritively about what happened in Spain, and it was worse than most places other than the UK..

In Spain you could walk outside of your home directly outside if you had a dog.. that had to be walked.

You could go to work, but you mut have proof that you work at the place that you do, and you must go the most direct route..no going to grandmas house first or to the shops...

The army were brought in to stop cars and check.

All shopping had to be done at the stores closest to where you lived, if you were found further away then you faced a big fine... people were terrified of being stopped.

My daughter who lived in the mountains had to take her dogs to the Vets.., and she had to have letter from the vet saying she had an appointment.. otherwise the police would not allow her to continue on the road... she'd then usually have to go to a phaarmacy for the meds for the dogs, and she'd take a great chance of being caught and visit her partners' elderly father who lived alone.....on her way home..

In some ways she luckier than most because she lived in the mountaisn and had no neighbours so the air was fresh and clean... and she had 5 acres of Land so plenty to walk and exercise the dogs... but it meant that they were stuck up there for many months and couldn't travel anywhere except for the aforesaid necessities


here were the Police and army in Spain policing the streets...
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See that is outright tyranny. Pure communism.
I feel sorry for your family and her extended family having to go through that!
 

See that is outright tyranny. Pure communism.
I feel sorry for your family and her extended family having to go through that!
Thank you..it was very unpleasant I have to say... and I could go on for a long time with more examples..none less than literally empty shelves so people went without food......like this..

the old man and the old lady looking entirely confused in British Supermarkets . beccause there's literally nothing on the shelves they've come for.... will remain with me forecver...

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This is from the TV series The Pitt, which accurately depicts the mentality of many conspiracy theorists...
Thank you for posting that excerpt from the excellent medical drama, The Pitt. The show has been praised enormously by the medical community for its accuracy and credibility. It's a great story with entertaining, often funny characters working at that hospital, but it also manages to educate the audience in an intelligent manner about a lot of serious medical issues.

Covid disables and kills, and most of its victims are people who were not vaccinated. Period. What's so hard to understand about that? Once we got the vaccine, the death rate took a nosedive. I had a friend who died of it, not because he was stubbornly against the vaccine, but because he was elderly and suffering from various other conditions and couldn't get the vaccine at that time. He was in the hospital with pneumonia when he caught covid (in the hospital!) and died of it. If he had been able to receive the vaccine, he might (probably?) would have survived.

I had a mild case after being vaccinated. So did most of the rest of my family. We all got it at Thanksgiving dinner, caught from one family member who thought she just was getting a cold. A little coughing and fever for a few days, then we were all fine. I think the quick response by most Americans was very much to be thanked for the fact that so many of us are still alive, even after more than one case of covid. It's become more like getting the flu rather than the bubonic plague.

Funny, today I heard about the prevalence of "magic" still practiced in parts of the deep South, with voodoo dolls, etc. The refusal to accept reality on this subject by some people made me think of that. I wonder if they have an anti-covid voodoo doll that wards off the covid ghost?
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Thank you for posting that excerpt from the excellent medical drama, The Pitt. The show has been praised enormously by the medical community for its accuracy and credibility. It's a great story with entertaining, often funny characters working at that hospital, but it also manages to educate the audience in an intelligent manner about a lot of serious medical issues.

Covid disables and kills, and most of its victims are people who were not vaccinated. Period. What's so hard to understand about that? Once we got the vaccine, the death rate took a nosedive. I had a friend who died of it, not because he was stubbornly against the vaccine, but because he was elderly and suffering from various other conditions and couldn't get the vaccine at that time. He was in the hospital with pneumonia when he caught covid (in the hospital!) and died of it. If he had been able to receive the vaccine, he might (probably?) would have survived.

I had a mild case after being vaccinated. So did most of the rest of my family. We all got it at Thanksgiving dinner, caught from one family member who thought she just was getting a cold. A little coughing and fever for a few days, then we were all fine. I think the quick response by most Americans was very much to be thanked for the fact that so many of us are still alive, even after more than one case of covid. It's become more like getting the flu rather than the bubonic plague.

Funny, today I heard about the prevalence of "magic" still practiced in parts of the deep South, with voodoo dolls, etc. The refusal to accept reality on this subject by some people made me think of that. I wonder if they have an anti-covid voodoo doll that wards off the covid ghost?
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I'm not familiar with the t.v. show you mentioned, but thank you for your sensible post!

It's mindboggling that there are individuals who believe covid either never existed or was a blown-out-of-proportion scam.. and precautions against it were just 'the government trying to connnntroooool people..'
 
In Spain as in the Uk they blocked off the beaches.. and the mountains.. madness.. no-one could walk out on the fresh air in the mountains at all

I guess they didn't know that outdoor air effectively disperses pathogens. During the covid period, I went walking outdoors (not wearing a mask outdoors, of course) and other walkers coming toward me would cross the road making sure to say well away from me (wearing their masks too). Gotta shake your head. At times I was tempted to cross the road too and give them a good scare.
 
I scared cashiers more than once with a cough. I have allergies. When I saw the look I'd immediately let them know it was allergies and not covid.
 
Here's another from The Pitt that's relevant to this thread.
I've never actually watched the series since I don't have HBO Max, but it seems like something you might see on the evening news. :ROFLMAO:
 
The whole thing really caused (perhaps it was designed to?) a stimulus toward progressive decay in our western culture. Prices escalating, work ethic suffering, thirst for more government handouts, talk of basic incomes, inability of business to find enough and suitable employees, shortages of goods, and decreasing quality.
 
The anti-vax movement isn't limited to Covid-19. A resurgence of measles in 2025 and early 2026 has resulted in the highest case counts in the United States since the disease was declared eliminated in 2000. Public health experts attribute these outbreaks primarily to declining vaccination rates and the growth of "pockets" of unvaccinated individuals.

The Role of Non-Vaccination
Measles is exceptionally contagious; one infected person can spread the virus to up to 90% of unprotected people in close contact.
  • Vaccination Status: In 2025, approximately 93% to 97% of infected individuals were either unvaccinated or had an unknown vaccination status.
  • The 95% Threshold: To maintain "herd immunity" and prevent community spread, at least 95% of a population must be vaccinated with two doses of the MMR vaccine.
  • Declining Rates: National vaccination rates among U.S. kindergartners have dropped from 95% in 2019 to approximately 92% in 2024. In some high-outbreak counties, rates have fallen as low as 82% to 90%.
  • Exemptions: The rise in outbreaks coincides with an increase in nonmedical vaccine exemptions (NMEs), driven by misinformation and a decline in public trust.
Prevention & Risks
  • Effectiveness: Two doses of the MMR vaccine are 97% effective at preventing measles for life.
  • Vulnerability: Unvaccinated infants (too young for the vaccine), pregnant people, and the immunocompromised are at the highest risk for severe complications like pneumonia, brain swelling (encephalitis), and permanent hearing loss.
  • Elimination Status: Experts warn that the U.S. is at imminent risk of losing its official measles elimination status if sustained transmission continues.
 
So our great govt of Canada has done something that just reeks of criminal behaviour.
On Feb 2nd the health minister of Canada sealed vaccine damage records for the next 15 years!
It totalled millions of pages.
Vax Files Closed For 15 Years | Blacklock's Reporter

The question is, why. These are public records, and our tax dollars pays for, well everything.
What are they hiding?
Awesome that we have such an open and transparent govt!
 
In Spain as in the Uk they blocked off the beaches.. and the mountains.. madness.. no-one could walk out on the fresh air in the mountains at all... In the Uk...a popular area in the North of England is a place called the Peak district... this is it...

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They sent up drones to catch anyone walking out there.. and wrecked beauty spots by dumping gallons of black dye into the lakes and rivers.. to stop visitors ... until a Judge eventually ruled them to be in the wrong .. for now allowing people out in the fresh air..

So then there was a limit put on how long we could be out...just one hour.. and they strapped up all the park benches so no-one could sit down... and if we were foud sitting then we were fined


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What? That's insane. We could just go to the grocery store as long as you kept distance and nature, going outside was absolutely fine. Go outside as much as you want. Some big reformed churches kept holding meetings and they could not forbid them, but the evangelicals got livestreams.
 
Not to mention the PM Carney mentioned 70 times in the epstein release.
Just pure evil people.

Wulfger
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If you look at the US justice departments website (https://www.justice.gov/epstein/search), you can search through the Epstein files yourself. Searching Mark Carney comes up with 69 results, I took the time to go through all of them, and there's nothing there that's at all incriminating or relevant. There is:
  • 1 email about a business luncheon hosted by Mark Carney in his capacity as the Governor of the Bank of England
  • 63 emails where he is referenced in either a daily news summary or a newsletter
  • 3 emails where he is quoted in a discussion about financial advice
  • 2 emails (one original and one forward) noting that Mark Carney was investigated by the UK government regarding the London Capital & Finance scandal, for which he was found to have committed no wrongdoing, he's not even mentioned in the final report on it.
There are zero allegations of misbehavior and no indications of any connection to Epstein.
 

Wulfger
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If you look at the US justice departments website (https://www.justice.gov/epstein/search), you can search through the Epstein files yourself. Searching Mark Carney comes up with 69 results, I took the time to go through all of them, and there's nothing there that's at all incriminating or relevant. There is:
  • 1 email about a business luncheon hosted by Mark Carney in his capacity as the Governor of the Bank of England
  • 63 emails where he is referenced in either a daily news summary or a newsletter
  • 3 emails where he is quoted in a discussion about financial advice
  • 2 emails (one original and one forward) noting that Mark Carney was investigated by the UK government regarding the London Capital & Finance scandal, for which he was found to have committed no wrongdoing, he's not even mentioned in the final report on it.
There are zero allegations of misbehavior and no indications of any connection to Epstein.
Doesn't matter if there is evidence of wrong doing. First, whats in the rest of the unreleased docs, or stuff that disappeared?
Second, anyone in association with pedos, human/women/child trafficker's, rapists, murderers is guilty by association.
Just like another liberal we had, Trudeau!
Why wont they allow Maxwell testimony out? Hmmm, I wonder.

At minimum, all names on those lists should step down/quit what have you until investigations are done.
Cause you know if you are I was around 'bad' people we would pay the price with immediate job loss, arrest etc.

Tell me this...what kind of person even thinks of associating with notorious criminals? Even for business. By that logic I can do business with the Hells Angles, or the Sinaloa Cartel as long as its restaurant or bank related? Lol!
This isn't new. Its not like Carney didn't know about this in 2018 or any other time he was emailing or calling or having lunches with them. This first came to light in 90's at minimum.

All guilty and all think they are above the law.
 
Doesn't matter if there is evidence of wrong doing. First, whats in the rest of the unreleased docs, or stuff that disappeared?
Second, anyone in association with pedos, human/women/child trafficker's, rapists, murderers is guilty by association.
Just like another liberal we had, Trudeau!
Why wont they allow Maxwell testimony out? Hmmm, I wonder.

At minimum, all names on those lists should step down/quit what have you until investigations are done.
Cause you know if you are I was around 'bad' people we would pay the price with immediate job loss, arrest etc.

Tell me this...what kind of person even thinks of associating with notorious criminals? Even for business. By that logic I can do business with the Hells Angles, or the Sinaloa Cartel as long as its restaurant or bank related? Lol!
This isn't new. Its not like Carney didn't know about this in 2018 or any other time he was emailing or calling or having lunches with them. This first came to light in 90's at minimum.

All guilty and all think they are above the law.
Yes but that guy said that they only mentioned his name cause bankers wanted to go to his conference or something. It doesn't prove to me that he had anything to do with it. One name was a Dutch girl. They asked her why. She was a model, visited him and he was nice and paid for a breast operation and then he was a creep and did filthy stuff when she was there but didnt touch her, so yes her name is in it, but she's a victim. That one from Norway though is not a naive victim.
 
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Wow, just wow.
I guess you wouldn't let facts spoil a good story or get tangled up in the presumption of innocence.
Well, this list contains some of the worst crimes imaginable. So anyone who associates with these people deserve it.
Yes innocent until proven guilty, but for some reason this list was protected for a reason. These crimes have been talked about for decades.
Something needs to be done.
 
Yes but that guy said that they only mentioned his name cause bankers wanted to go to his conference or something. It doesn't prove to me that he had anything to do with it. One name was a Dutch girl. They asked her why. She was a model, visited him and he was nice and paid for a breast operation and then he was a creep and did filthy stuff when she was there but didnt touch her, so yes her name is in it, but she's a victim. That one from Norway though is not a naive victim.
Many victims have come forward. Maxwell wants to release info, but its suppressed. SOmething big and horrible going on.
 
Well, this list contains some of the worst crimes imaginable. So anyone who associates with these people deserve it.
Yes innocent until proven guilty, but for some reason this list was protected for a reason. These crimes have been talked about for decades.
Something needs to be done.
Tub thumping and righteous indignation are a good start...
 
Many victims have come forward. Maxwell wants to release info, but its suppressed. SOmething big and horrible going on.
Yes a woman on Facebook, commenting on something, said she was in a plane with Virginia Giuffre to the island and that Epstein was not the leader, but someone else. I tried to warn her to take a fake name, but they had her name already, she said.
 
I am Googling to see if some British guy crept into that US fort Detrick to release a virus and blame the USA and China, but I can't find anything. What I did find though:

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

The U.S. military’s anti-vax effort began in the spring of 2020 and expanded beyond Southeast Asia before it was terminated in mid-2021, Reuters determined. Tailoring the propaganda campaign to local audiences across Central Asia and the Middle East, the Pentagon used a combination of fake social media accounts on multiple platforms to spread fear of China’s vaccines among Muslims at a time when the virus was killing tens of thousands of people each day. A key part of the strategy: amplify the disputed contention that, because vaccines sometimes contain pork gelatin, China’s shots could be considered forbidden under Islamic law.

We weren’t looking at this from a public health perspective,” said a senior military officer involved in the program. “We were looking at how we could drag China through the mud.


Then-Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte pleaded with citizens to get the COVID vaccine. “You choose, vaccine or I will have you jailed,” a masked Duterte said in this televised address in June 2021.
 
So our great govt of Canada has done something that just reeks of criminal behaviour.
On Feb 2nd the health minister of Canada sealed vaccine damage records for the next 15 years!
It totalled millions of pages.
Vax Files Closed For 15 Years | Blacklock's Reporter

The question is, why. These are public records, and our tax dollars pays for, well everything.
What are they hiding?
Awesome that we have such an open and transparent govt!
Aren't you in Europe?
 


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