‘Ding Dong Ditch’ Death

I could write this off as a young nation having growing pains, and that as it rolls along it will straighten itself out. Things are pretty confusing now, plus we a all facing a world that seems to change a lot in a short time period. So a lot of us are frustrated. There are several problems we are facing now. The weather, the economy, our health, and having a safe place to live and raise children. Somehow we have taken all the violence we have seen ( on tv/movies too ), and now acting like killing and maiming people has become acceptable or the last straw.
 

Jazzy1 said:
11-year-old boy fatally shot in Houston after ‘ding dong ditch’ doorbell-ringing prank, police say

What possible reason would you have to shoot someone that rings your doorbell. What is wrong with people? :cry:

Your thoughts?
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What possible reason? He had a gun.

People who buy guns expect to use them at some time. Usually for "protection." So all the time they're target shooting and cleaning their guns they're fantasizing about saving their family from an intruder some night. He thought his dreams were finally coming true.
 
To me, reading of all the ding dong shootings has surprised
me as I've never heard of it before recently...I guess cause
I was raised in a very small indiana town, where kids just
didn't do this that I'm aware of.....
 
People on both sides of the political and social spectrums are angry and scared, a bad combination.

It seems some people believe "I am always right and you are always wrong" and have no respect or consideration for the possibility that perhaps there is a middle ground. In addition, they want to force their ideas onto others. You must live MY way because your way is wrong and you will be punished if you do not.

Della said:
People who buy guns expect to use them at some time. Usually for "protection." So all the time they're target shooting and cleaning their guns they're fantasizing about saving their family from an intruder some night. He thought his dreams were finally coming true.
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I do not know about the shooter in this instance. However, may I state that I have guns. I do not need to worry about a human intruder where I live. I do have to be vigilant about predator wildlife: bears, bobcats, mountain lions on my property. There was a bear sighting three days ago IN MY BACKYARD. When I go out now, I carry a gun. I would use it as a last resort, first yelling, waving my arms, etc., to chase it away. Shooting it would be a last resort. So please consider that not everybody who owns a gun does so to kill other people.
 
GoodEnuff said:
People on both sides of the political and social spectrums are angry and scared, a bad combination.

It seems some people believe "I am always right and you are always wrong" and have no respect or consideration for the possibility that perhaps there is a middle ground. In addition, they want to force their ideas onto others. You must live MY way because your way is wrong and you will be punished if you do not.


I do not know about the shooter in this instance. However, may I state that I have guns. I do not need to worry about a human intruder where I live. I do have to be vigilant about predator wildlife: bears, bobcats, mountain lions on my property. There was a bear sighting three days ago IN MY BACKYARD. When I go out now, I carry a gun. I would use it as a last resort, first yelling, waving my arms, etc., to chase it away. Shooting it would be a last resort. So please consider that not everybody who owns a gun does so to kill other people.
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We'll I did say "usually," and the answer most often given by gun owners as to why they have them is, "to protect my family." Yes, lots of people in rural areas need guns to kill predatory animals and police and military people need guns. I was really only talking about this shooter who killed a child for ringing his doorbell.
 
Paco Dennis said:
We let the rich get richer, and the criminals (white collar mainly) go free to kill and enrich themselves without conscience.
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If I understand your post the reason the child was shot is because you believe the rich get richer. If that is your reason for this man murdering this child how do you explain the summary in this research?

https://cod.pressbooks.pub/criminology/chapter/social-class-and-crime/#:~:text=Research has consistently found a,of involvement in criminal activities.

And yes I say murder because the child was outside the home & posed NO DANGER to the home owner.
 
When I read or hear about this type of episode, I tend to withhold judgement. What information was not reported? Had these kids done other things prior to the doorbell ditch? Were they gang members, perhaps armed? Had the shooter been traumatized in the past by other incidents?

Over 40 years ago, I was attacked with murderous intent and came very near to death. I remember my last thought prior to losing consciousness was, "Who will love my children as much as I love them?" I moved far far away. Nightmares for years. Now, at my current home, he lives less than a half mile from me. I rarely think about it and have "gotten over it". Once in a while, I wonder what I would do if he showed up at my door or came onto my property. I don't know. I do know that it would not be a nice encounter.

So...I wonder about this killing and others like it. Know, however, I do not condone it.
 
Knight said:
If I understand your post the reason the child was shot is because you believe the rich get richer. If that is your reason for this man murdering this child how do you explain the summary in this research?

https://cod.pressbooks.pub/criminology/chapter/social-class-and-crime/#:~:text=Research has consistently found a,of involvement in criminal activities.

And yes I say murder because the child was outside the home & posed NO DANGER to the home owner.
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Because our culture supports the wealthy, and it is getting far worse. The wealthy are germandering the hell out of states so that the laws are such that they always favor the wealthy. That ridiculous law they passed to make it just peachy to kill a kid who playing a harmless prank. People with common sense would have never let this become law. ...I did hear he was being tried for murder, excellent, I hope he learns something, like don't shoot people.

The article is spot on. We have become a culture with definite class warfare. Someone comes to your door unannounced doing unusl things, must be some terrorist of some kind(lower class), kill them. Class warfare.
 
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Jazzy1 said:
11-year-old boy fatally shot in Houston after ‘ding dong ditch’ doorbell-ringing prank, police say

What possible reason would you have to shoot someone that rings your doorbell. What is wrong with people? :cry:

Your thoughts?
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May the child rest in peace, a nut who is triggered by a door bell should not own any guns at all.

It's a stupid game, and from what I hear, many things on social media sites like tictok are stupid and get people into serious trouble.

Not funny to ring bells and run away, very disrespectful and inconsiderate, but a death sentence should not be the punishment. IMO, bored kids need to stay away from their smartphone screens and actually live their lives among others their age in the real life of humanity. Plenty of games and activities to keep these kids occupied.
 
I think there are people in this world/country who have guns loaded and ready to shoot someone whenever they find the legal reasons. These people carefully study the laws and codes so they can legally kill someone.
 
TikTok and other platforms have made this a popular prank for kids.

Based on what I’ve seen online and in the news, some have made it an excuse to terrorize families they don’t like. It still doesn’t make it reasonable to shoot at the kid(s).

He wasn’t in danger for his life. That little boy’s family has been destroyed.
 
Knight said:
What Law?
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This is AI's response --
While the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws provide significant legal protections, they are not a blank check. The legality of using deadly force in a self-defense scenario is highly dependent on the specific laws of the state or country, and the precise circumstances of the event. Even in states with these laws, a person who uses deadly force may still face criminal investigation and potential charges, and they would have to prove that their actions were justified under the law.
For accurate legal advice on this topic, it is essential to consult with a qualified attorney in your specific jurisdiction.
 
Honestly these kids forget that not everyone is mentally stable and can handle being teased by such nonsense. I'm not saying these kids deserved to die but for God sake, why do these kids insist on pestering people? Why can't people live their lives without these kids pranking everyone? It's frickin annoying. They need to find something constructive to do with their time besides harrassing people.

And these people that can't manage their mental stability enough to use the gun properly shouldn't have one in the first place. If you own a gun it's usually for self defense. Not so you can murder whoever annoys you. But the temptation wouldn't even be there in the first place if they didn't own the gun to begin with.

Today's kids are a bunch of little brats and most of the adults are a bunch of nutbags. Ever since Covid people's mental states have taken a nose dive. They're acting like a bunch of maniacs. The kids aren't any better. People need to learn to leave others alone and that it's not acceptable to rage over regular every day things. If a store runs out of the type of bread you like it's not acceptable to pull a gun on or beat the hell out of a clerk.
 
I can only speak for Pennsylvania laws. If a minor rings a resident’s doorbell and runs away, the minor can be charged for trespassing and harassment, unless there is also vandalism or distress to the resident(s). The minor will be turned over to the juvenile court for their discretion of punishment.

Adults will face a harsher punishment, including fines and possible jail time, depending on the extent of the adult’s actions, it could be a warning to fines and if there is vandalism or distress, fines or a jail sentence may be included. Civil penalties could also be pressed by the owner.

If the events happened in the OP’s link “as stated,” it’s very likely that the shooter would be taken into custody and held without bail pending the D.A. filing the charges. The person answering the door was not at risk, so he will be held responsible for the shooting, along with civil liabilities by the family. I would like to believe that the shooter would be looking at a charge of voluntary manslaughter, which is a first degree felony, which is punishable by 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. He will also be looking at a civil liability case.

If the shooter is found liable by a jury, they could award the family an undetermined amount of money. He better have a good homeowner’s policy that pays out millions of dollars for being stupid.
 

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