12 gauge double barrel handgun.

While doing your research include the S&W Governor, it's in the same category.
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Any comments on "the Judge"? Hub was thinking about buying one. We just sited in the 250-3000 long gun - metal jackets - wow, what a racket.
Taurus products have been iffy; the company is having quality control problems. They are so back logged on warranty repairs, some customers have waited months to get their gun back - and frequently, they are still not functioning. Not something I would rely on.
Their 410/45 is a compromise. The shallow rifling causes poor accuracy & much-lower velocities when using the 45 rounds. The short barrel greatly limits the range of a 410 shotshell. After only a few feet, the spread is huge.
Taurus specializes in making unusual firearms - but their quality is not up to par.
 
I had a .250-3000 Savage 99A in 1972 when they reintroduced the cartridge. It was originally a wildcat cartridge (non factory) developed by Charles Newton in 1915. Arthur Savage liked it so much he chambered the 99 for it. It’s a great deer cartridge, a mild shooter and very accurate.

Savage made takedown 99’s with two barrels, usually in .300 Savage, with and a .410 bore barrel for 2 1/2” shells. They were quite rare and only made during the 1920’s. The shotgun barrel was only meant for single shot use since the 99 had a rotary magazine. Savage 99‘s are interesting rifles.
 

Taurus products have been iffy; the company is having quality control problems. They are so back logged on warranty repairs, some customers have waited months to get their gun back - and frequently, they are still not functioning. Not something I would rely on.
Their 410/45 is a compromise. The shallow rifling causes poor accuracy & much-lower velocities when using the 45 rounds. The short barrel greatly limits the range of a 410 shotshell. After only a few feet, the spread is huge.
Taurus specializes in making unusual firearms - but their quality is not up to par.
Thanks Win for clarifying that. That's what I've suspected too. So many have tried to make a hand gun that has the velocity and positive aspects of a long gun. So far, nada.
 
I had a .250-3000 Savage 99A in 1972 when they reintroduced the cartridge. It was originally a wildcat cartridge (non factory) developed by Charles Newton in 1915. Arthur Savage liked it so much he chambered the 99 for it. It’s a great deer cartridge, a mild shooter and very accurate.

Savage made takedown 99’s with two barrels, usually in .300 Savage, with and a .410 bore barrel for 2 1/2” shells. They were quite rare and only made during the 1920’s. The shotgun barrel was only meant for single shot use since the 99 had a rotary magazine. Savage 99‘s are interesting rifles.
Wow, I didn't know that JB. You are a wealth of historical information. The .250-3000 Savage makes me feels so close to my dad. Even though he always said the .22 was the most accurate long gun, the Savage was his favorite. He was an NRA rifle champion, and didn't care much for handguns.
 
I have a few 12 Gauge SG's. The Remington for whatever reason, really rocks me. I have to really padded up to use that thing.

Unfortunately I have NO handguns. I need one for the night stand badly. Each day goes by I think I need to research this and go find something. I have no idea what to get. Don't need anything special, just for self defense.... Any suggestions? Recommendations?
 
I have a string of bear traps leading to my bedroom and a mini gun set at 4,000 RPM bolted to the foot board.

Back in 1987, I had the Remington Custom Gun Shop build me a Remington 700 Custom Grade III in .300 H&H Magnum. The stock is highly figured claro walnut, rosewood fore end and grip cap, 32 lines/inch hand cut checkering, engraved receiver and my name engraved on the rear of the barrel...the best of everything. It was hand built by a John Remington and came with a stack of paperwork. It's a work of art. I was making a lot of money back then and this was a present to myself...and a family heirloom, I guess.
 
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I have a few 12 Gauge SG's. The Remington for whatever reason, really rocks me. I have to really padded up to use that thing.

Unfortunately I have NO handguns. I need one for the night stand badly. Each day goes by I think I need to research this and go find something. I have no idea what to get. Don't need anything special, just for self defense.... Any suggestions? Recommendations?
For a revolver, Ruger GP100. 4"
For an auto (assuming you have some familiarity with autos), it's hard to beat a Glock. They are standard issue with 90% of police depts. & the FBI.
 
I have a few 12 Gauge SG's. The Remington for whatever reason, really rocks me. I have to really padded up to use that thing.

Unfortunately I have NO handguns. I need one for the night stand badly. Each day goes by I think I need to research this and go find something. I have no idea what to get. Don't need anything special, just for self defense.... Any suggestions? Recommendations?
My recommendation for a home defense pistol is in post #13 of this thread.

S&W Governor (410/.45)
410 load for close range without blowing throw the walls of another residence. Last two rounds are .45 ACP.
Home defense will typically be a close combat situation and a pistol is harder to grab out of your hands than a long rifle.
 
I agree with the Long Rifle and the ability to be easily waved off target. The Remington sets in the corner currently but the articulation needed to get it on target is much like swirling a 2x4.
 
I have a few 12 Gauge SG's. The Remington for whatever reason, really rocks me. I have to really padded up to use that thing.

Unfortunately I have NO handguns. I need one for the night stand badly. Each day goes by I think I need to research this and go find something. I have no idea what to get. Don't need anything special, just for self defense.... Any suggestions? Recommendations?
Think it might have a lot to do with the size of your hand. I have issues with a heavy gun due to my small hands. Wound up with a sweet little 22 that shoots LR shells with zip recoil. Its nice. We do target practice off the back deck and its very accurate (assuming you are. too...lol). Dad was NRA rifle camp and we always had several 22's in the house, due to their great accuracy. Flushed my first pheasant at the ripe old age of 4 and had a sweet little bolt action 22 with a teddy bear decal on it when I was just a kid, too.

https://gunnewsdaily.com/best-22-pistols/
 
Maybe one of you can direct me in the right direction. I have an old Colt single action made in 1916. I'd like to sell it but if I go to a dealer I'll only get half the worth. It was rebuilt in 2011 and carried in the Mexican revolution .Ser. No. 333678 Early wood, one piece grips. I think Colts are the most beautiful guns ever made but I have to sell it. The old, well-used guns have the most character. I think it's all original parts except for the grips. E-Bay won't take revolvers. Where do you think I should try to sell it?
 
Maybe one of you can direct me in the right direction. I have an old Colt single action made in 1916. I'd like to sell it but if I go to a dealer I'll only get half the worth. It was rebuilt in 2011 and carried in the Mexican revolution .Ser. No. 333678 Early wood, one piece grips. I think Colts are the most beautiful guns ever made but I have to sell it. The old, well-used guns have the most character. I think it's all original parts except for the grips. E-Bay won't take revolvers. Where do you think I should try to sell it?
You could check here at this site or attend local gun shows...maybe others have suggestions that they're used:

https://www.cashmyguns.com
 
Maybe one of you can direct me in the right direction. I have an old Colt single action made in 1916. I'd like to sell it but if I go to a dealer I'll only get half the worth. It was rebuilt in 2011 and carried in the Mexican revolution .Ser. No. 333678 Early wood, one piece grips. I think Colts are the most beautiful guns ever made but I have to sell it. The old, well-used guns have the most character. I think it's all original parts except for the grips. E-Bay won't take revolvers. Where do you think I should try to sell it?
Ask if the store sells on consignment. Most will take 25%, but they handle all the paperwork, registration, etc. The larger stores really need quality used firearms in their inventory. Colts like that are valuable & sought after by collectors.
 
231: I've put other guns in gun shops on consignment and they not only didn't sell, but they came back damaged from handling. Won't do that again. But, Thank you for the suggestion. It was kind of you.
 
231: I've put other guns in gun shops on consignment and they not only didn't sell, but they came back damaged from handling. Won't do that again. But, Thank you for the suggestion. It was kind of you.
Wow, looks like things are different where you are. I've done consignment sales 9 times in the past few years. Everything sold within a couple of days. Of course, they were mostly at big chain stores.
 
I tried the Lion's Club gun annual gun show but they had a BIG problem with signing and advertising, ( a lot of politics) so very few people showed. No biggie! I'll hang on to it. I kinda like it! Thanks for your help though!
 
Maybe one of you can direct me in the right direction. I have an old Colt single action made in 1916. I'd like to sell it but if I go to a dealer I'll only get half the worth. It was rebuilt in 2011 and carried in the Mexican revolution .Ser. No. 333678 Early wood, one piece grips. I think Colts are the most beautiful guns ever made but I have to sell it. The old, well-used guns have the most character. I think it's all original parts except for the grips. E-Bay won't take revolvers. Where do you think I should try to sell it?


Refinishing the revolver probably removed any collector value. As a shooter it has limited value because of it's age. Getting a good appraisal is difficult, most get them from the Blue Book of Guns...it's not very accurate and doesn't take into account any history.

I'd recommend getting a factory letter from Colt's but that will only give you when and where it was shipped, original finish, etc. You can get one here, it's expensive but may help with the sale. https://www.colt.com/page/archive-services

There are websites that specialize in firearms sales, Gun Broker for instance. But you have to deal with the hassle of shipping and involving an FFL with the sale.
 
I have a few 12 Gauge SG's. The Remington for whatever reason, really rocks me. I have to really padded up to use that thing.

Unfortunately I have NO handguns. I need one for the night stand badly. Each day goes by I think I need to research this and go find something. I have no idea what to get. Don't need anything special, just for self defense.... Any suggestions? Recommendations?

Handguns require quite a bit of training to master, a medium sized double action revolver with a 4" barrel in .38 Special/.357 Magnum is what I recommend for most beginners. The .38 Special recoil is controllable for most folks with an option for .357 Magnum when a person learns to handle the recoil and muzzle blast. They are the safest handgun to own, they are easy to unload...there's no mistaking if there are any cartridges in the gun and the heavier trigger pull prevents accidental discharges.

I never recommend a semi auto in a defensive caliber for new shooters, it requires much more training to master safe handling and many folks don't have enough hand strength to rack the slide or clear stoppages should they occur.
 


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