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Paco Dennis

Paco Dennis

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This time of our day, a few hours before sunrise, has been particular difficult for me for about a year now. Having digestive issues increasing and developing painful consequences. Now I am experimenting with lots of different alternative drugs ( not all at once ), diet, doctors meds, over the counter stuff sometimes, but this is the time when it all seems to come to a climax. I know poor choice of word...but what else is there...head...same stuff,,agh...peak ..ah oh...I guess maximum level would do. Anyway, just thought I would share what it is like to GO ON. ( i know that most of us here have this issue much worse than I in some manner ). Getting old is like watching an old tree loose it's leaves, and then start decaying....all over.
 

Thnx @hollydolly How do they say "my age was spent in my youth"...or something like that. "If I only knew then what I know now." :) I also realize that all living creatures experience some kind of passing. So I can accept with, some self pity, the latter part of life. ♥️
 

Paco Dennis said:
Thnx @hollydolly How do they say "my age was spent in my youth"...or something like that. "If I only knew then what I know now." :) I also realize that all living creatures experience some kind of passing. So I can accept with, some self pity, the latter part of life. ♥️
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I think we're all similar in that PD... we accept with self pity or grudgingly that we've become older.. that we can see that older person in the mirror.. and it's jarring... but why does it so often have to bring it's mate Pain with it ?... 😖
 
Paco Dennis said:
This time of our day, a few hours before sunrise, has been particular difficult for me for about a year now. Having digestive issues increasing and developing painful consequences. Now I am experimenting with lots of different alternative drugs ( not all at once ), diet, doctors meds, over the counter stuff sometimes, but this is the time when it all seems to come to a climax. I know poor choice of word...but what else is there...head...same stuff,,agh...peak ..ah oh...I guess maximum level would do. Anyway, just thought I would share what it is like to GO ON. ( i know that most of us here have this issue much worse than I in some manner ). Getting old is like watching an old tree loose it's leaves, and then start decaying....all over.
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I am sending kind thoughts and prayers your way and thinking of you. I sincerely wish my prayers could ease some of your pain. It makes some of my pain feel trivial compared to yours. Hang in there.
 
What about powdered wheatgrass stirred into water? Ask your doctor if a shot would help you. A doctor would probably not know much about health foods and nutrition though. My daughter had stomach issues all her life and she does that. I'll ask her what all she does...whatever it is I can guarantee it's healthy. Seriously though, I'm really sorry to hear you're going through this.
 
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Raw Apple Cider Vinegar helped me. Probiotics .made my digestive problems worse. Pills stopped working. I was desperate and tried the vinegar thinking, how can this work. It tasted awful but it did. What a relief. Now it's bladder pain waking me up. Probably from the vinegar. But hey, that digestion is running like a clock.
 
Lewkat said:
diverticulitis
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No, the Doc says it is IBS, and has many patients with it. I stopped using all prescription meds to deal with it. They all had too many weird side effects. But, I might need to check this out. It feels like there are pockets of inflammation or something like that....thanks for the suggestion!
 
Once any doctor has said, it's IBS, afterwards they often attribute every related issue and symptoms, to that ,
and it then becomes extremely difficult,
in my own experience, to get them ( or some other doctor) to revisit the other possibilities, when it might be helpful to do so.

After all, even though we have IBS, it doesn't mean we cannot or do not, get other problems in addition, that understandably make it all much worse and more difficult to live with. And which possibly would have a different approach.

Yet of course, we also do not want or benefit from endless investigations.
There's a balance someplace, and the doctors do not always get that right.
We have to continually guess at that, too.

Speaking of balance, I endlessly search for some possibly beneficial tweaks in my foods, liquids, and the timings of each of those, etc, etc.....
Even though it never fixes the problem, it's always worth trying...
motivated by the misery of these symptoms, as you mention in your short version, Paco.
Take care. I do know how very difficult it can be, and worse when we are sleep-deprived at the same time, as everything is.
 
Kaila said:
I wondered, Is every night, usually the same pattern repeated, for you ??
@Paco Dennis
and others..... ?
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I'd say about 80% of the time at aprox. 2-6am I have to deal mainly with IBS symptoms...of course that ranges of mild to tough, and then several times through the day some symptoms bother me. I just stopped using any artificial sweeteners and am limiting the amount of processed flours, and have added 1 teaspoon of fish oil, 1 of Sesame Oil, 1 of Avocado oil. The tweaking will never end, until I hear that train a comin'. :)
 
Many years ago, when I was going through what I thought might be IBS or diverticulitis, it turned out that I had a polyp in my bowel. Once removed, everything was fine.

However, who knows what is causing your pain. It's a guessing game.
 

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