71 years since D-day!!

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We should not forget what happened on D-day 72 years ago.
Some of you may have a memory that goes back that far. I was only a toddler, but I remember vaguely that people came out of their kitchens waving their dish cloths and car horns blowing.

I received an email from someone who recounted some poignant responses that some famous (and some not) Americans gave to persons who asked some disingenuous questions at awkward moments and the replies that followed. In each case, there was no response to the reply. This seemed like a good place to stop and think about what our country has done and the sacrifices that we have made. Feel free to add other true accounts. I really like the last one, because my oldest uncle was one of those who landed on Omaha Beach.

Here they are:

JFK'S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when DeGaulle decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaulle said he wanted all US military out of France as soon as possible. Rusk responded, "Does that include those who are buried here?"

When in England, at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of 'empire building' by George Bush. He answered by saying, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."

There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, "Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?" A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: "Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?"

A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, "Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?" Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German."

Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on. "You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically. Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously. "Then you should know enough to have your passport ready." The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."
"Impossible. Americans always have to show their passports on arrival in France !" The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to."
 

So many people suffered in that war in so many ways that it is almost incomprehensible...
 

So many people suffered in that war in so many ways that it is almost incomprehensible...

...and they weren't all Americans. I sympathize with the intent of this thread. We have done good things in this world and sacrifices have been forgotten. I was ten when the war started and fourteen when it ended. I well remember the heartbreak of the "Gold Star" mothers and the worry and longing of everyone for separated loved ones in peril. All honor to those who served and destroyed the horrors back then.

What they fought for and against has been forgotten by more Americans than by the Frenchmen and Englishmen who suffered the physical realities of the war.
 
All wars pass into history eventually, even the Vietnam and eventually the Iraq, people will read about them without much emotion as we read about the Napoleonic wars, for example...
 
All wars pass into history eventually, even the Vietnam and eventually the Iraq, people will read about them without much emotion as we read about the Napoleonic wars, for example...

Hey! I have a whole library on the Napoleonic wars from my younger days. I cry for him every day.
Actually, he was not a very nice man. Used snuff and would sneeze all over you. :yuk:
 
It would appear that this email has been doing the rounds since 2011. It is dissected in detail here: http://freethoughtalmanac.com/?p=4152

The Normandy invasion was a remarkable achievement and really should not be sullied by jingoistic self congratulation. While it is fun to bash the French (or the Italians, or the Germans etc) it isn't really fair to do so in this context. France was horribly scarred by two world wars fought on her soil.
 
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There weren't too many Australians involved in the Normandy invasion. Out troops had been pulled back to defend closer to home after the fall of Singapore but we suffered heavy losses in France during WW I. Fromelles was worse than Gallipoli in terms of losses. We had our successes on the Western Front too. The town of ‎Villers-Bretonneux‎ has a school that bears the inscription "N'oulbiez jamais l'Australie".
 
My apologies, I forgot to add the Brits who suffered so much.

Thankyou Shalimar, yes Britain took a hammering, I live on the East coast of England and when the Germans flew over the North sea to drop bombs on London they would drop one or two on my town and then on the way back to Germany any bombs they had left we would get them again.

It is all very well taking the P out of the French but America didn't have the Germans bombing the crap out of their country.

Lets face it, until Pearl Harbour America had no intention of entering WW2.
 
I was living in the New Forest at the time. There was a camp of American soldiers (about five hundred) camped around us. When we woke in the morning of the day now known as D Day. the camp was empty except for just one or two American military police. They had all gone and we knew nothing of their going till it was announced that the invasion of France had begun. A few days after a large number of coloured American troops arrived and took over the camp. These men were to work on the Southampton docks loading supplies for those on the beaches of Normandy. At first we were a bit dubious of these black soldiers but they were some of the nicest politest men I have ever met. I don,t know how long they were camped here as I joined the army a few weeks later and left for a training camp
 
Just an obnoxious yank here who spent the war watching air raid drills from the roof of our apartment house in the Bronx. I just indulged myself in a little sentimental journey with Vera Lynn on You Tube. She will be a hundred years old this coming March. Great Gal. Great songs. Great people who stood alone and won at the critical moment.
 
Phil? Rock, I think you might mean Shali? :love_heart:

OMG! I am so embarrassed! Now you've seen my heinie! I am so, so, sorry, Shali. Thank you so much for your earlier kind words. My incorrectly directed response to Phil still applies. Even more so, in your case. Love ya'!
 

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