8 year old kids now being taught how to treat gun shot wounds

I think they should be taught to call 911 when someone is badly hurt. Period.

Before we try to prepare children for every possible horrific event that could happen, from gun incidents to assault from a pedophile, we need to weigh the chances of these things happening (and no adult being around) against the trauma and worry from learning about these things in the first place.
 

My grandson is a city cop and last night he arrested 4-14 y/o kids carrying 9mm's. One of the kids in the group had his girlfriend shot by another boy and they were out looking for him. Ho told me 1 kid got away, 1 kid went to lock-up and the other 2 were released to his parents.

As he put it, "Just another night in the city."

What's the best they can teach about treating a gunshot wound? Apply direct pressure to the wound?
 
You hear of the mass shootings, but there are usually far away. And sad to say, after 3 days, we forget about them. I took an art class at a local community college. The college is smaller than most high schools. I hadn't been in a school in 50 years. When I walked in the first thing I saw was big posters "Steps to Take When There's an Active Shooter". That sign totally floored me, it brought the shootings right into my life.
 
It is part of our culture. You never know when where or how but it could happen near you. We have returned to the wild wild west, so yes, it is a good idea to have plans ready in case of the unimaginable happening near you. :(
 
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My grandson is a city cop and last night he arrested 4-14 y/o kids carrying 9mm's. One of the kids in the group had his girlfriend shot by another boy and they were out looking for him. Ho told me 1 kid got away, 1 kid went to lock-up and the other 2 were released to his parents.

As he put it, "Just another night in the city."

What's the best they can teach about treating a gunshot wound? Apply direct pressure to the wound?
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I would add, place victim in the rescue position, and TALK to them, if only to distract them from the pain of the wound. JIMB.
 
I think we should start by upping the number needed to qualify as a "mass" shooting. 3 people being shot hardly deserves a headline today, let alone the dreadful "mass shooting" title.

Let's up it to somewhere between 5 and over and we can re-adjust it upwards as needed when 5 becomes too common.

What a great country we are becoming.(n)
 
fuzzybuddy said:
You hear of the mass shootings, but there are usually far away. And sad to say, after 3 days, we forget about them. I took an art class at a local community college. The college is smaller than most high schools. I hadn't been in a school in 50 years. When I walked in the first thing I saw was big posters "Steps to Take When There's an Active Shooter". That sign totally floored me, it brought the shootings right into my life.
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Yes, my granddaughter is a teacher and there has been a few times I've had to go there to see her or pick up kids, the school has a security system that is complicated to get in with several locked doors, all schools around here now have to hire security guards....Yes, a great country.. :rolleyes:...that this horror has infiltrated our children and schools.
 
well we have come full circle sort of, back in the '50s I was
taught how to safely handle and fire a gun in the basement,
gym area, of our local high school..........(y)
 
Showing children the safety aspects of hunting equipment is a wise thought.
Teaching them to care for wounds is also a great addition. Who knows what
the future brings with Ai driven vehicles piling up on Icy roads etc.

Accidents of one type or another are all of us's concern. I could drive the farm binders when I was 9.
Getting handed those responsibilities; it was the greatest part of my life. Growing up. It was a
different time then, much easier. Haha

I remember showing my dad how to raise the spout of the Hammermill and we could load more
Ground corn into the wagon with side boards so we didn't have to grind feed every afternoon. Then
With the Second wagon we ground feed every Saturday. My big mouth created more work for me.

Farm life for a youngster could get hard. ... šŸ¦¾šŸ¦æ
 
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I just read that the odds of a child being in a school shooting are 1 in 2.9 million or about the same as being struck by lightening. Add to that the chances that one child is going to be in a position to save another one and it's even more unlikely that this information is going to do anything but cause anxiety.

We had a whole generation practicing getting under their desk when the atom bomb struck them. Most took it in stride but some had nightmares and a cloud hanging over their childhood because of that.

Maybe instead of training the children we should train the police to actually go in and save the children instead of mill around in hallways and parking lots waiting for information.
 
old medic said:
GREAT IDEA... Wrong reason..... I learned this same stuff around the same age.... It was called basic 1st aid and taught in Boy Scouts.
But today its being done with the twist of the threat of being shot.
As a side note, we also had gun safety training at a young age to.
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And remember Duck & Cover?

I remember learning how to avoid getting evaporated by an A-Bomb. That was in elementary school. In high school, we had Disaster Drills, where we'd separate into groups: the injured and the first-aiders. The injured had fake blood and lacerations and broken bones, and guys from the fire department observed the first-aiders to make sure they correctly applied pressure as needed, bandages, splints, blankets, etc.

CPR was a separate class.
 
Locking doors has become a habitual habit. U no practicality just isn't an issue. It's made believe that'll hertz cha.

Most kids watch SniperWolf and learn it all from her. Kids are sponges absorbing everything out there.

The grandson had his smart phone taken away for months. Why, he was joking with one of his friends that
his parents never fed him. Fictional crap of Video tools too.

Deal with stuff, not why they thought it! I remember my parents never locked up until the Vietnam war was going.
That started so much stuff that has never ended, just changed brand names. Now there are automated door locks.

I go over to the kids place to drop stuff off, they open the door from work so I can put it on their Island counter.
I let them know I'm back out at my F150 and they lock back up.
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Murrmurr said:
And remember Duck & Cover?

I remember learning how to avoid getting evaporated by an A-Bomb. That was in elementary school. In high school, we had Disaster Drills, where we'd separate into groups: the injured and the first-aiders. The injured had fake blood and lacerations and broken bones, and guys from the fire department observed the first-aiders to make sure they correctly applied pressure as needed, bandages, splints, blankets, etc.

CPR was a separate class.
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Our school did Tornado drills too. We didn't actually slide down the Fire chute, just practiced how to go and then exit the stairs to the doors.

Most likely Complacency isn't an art, its stupidity.
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fuzzybuddy said:
I was learning how to tie my shoes at that age, now 8 year old kids are being taught first aid for classroom gunshots.
I don't know what to say.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/health/gun-violence-stop-the-bleed-children-gupta/index.html
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I started Kindergarten at 5. My mom taught me to tie my shoes before school started. The Bow was fun.
My dad taught me to hold a gate so feeder pigs would go into another pen. Was taught to always wear
heavy denim and Cotton cloths around them.

U know, there's constant danger when you raise hogs. Was never
badly hurt farming. Understanding rotating, belt driven stuff is a save-save. Liquids, it's all bad stuff.

Boys and girls just didn't hang in the house back when. Creeks, Banks, slippery slopes, Timbers and stuff in them.
So much fun and danger. Stay alert that sort of stuff. Snapping turtles. Always identify Bear Scat in the Woods. Haha

The Sheriff and Vet. hunting it, to trap it. The bigger than a hog, Big guys treeing halfway up. We watched from a hill
a 1/2 mile away in the gear binder. Tranqued the bear, coming down from the tree.

Back then nobody would of thought to teach us not to take a Selfie while hanging out over a steep drop-off. Think about it.
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I just heard him on NPR, too, Alizerine. He said some children are already afraid to play outside or go to school for fear of being shot. One little boy said he didn't want to wear those little shoes with lights on them for fear of making himself a target for a shooter.

I didn't grow up with any fear at all, but we didn't have the kind of guns we have now, and I never heard anyone cry babying about his constitutional rights to protect himself with an AR-15 rifle.
 
Della said:
we should train the police to actually go in and save the children instead of mill around in hallways and parking lots waiting for information.
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That is not a fair comment. I believe other than Uvalde most police responses to mass shootings have been heroic. And the training you suggest has been in place since Columbine.
 

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