9th grader arrested and handcuffed for building..........A CLOCK

QuickSilver said:
How could it be a "hoax bomb" if he kept telling everyone it was a CLOCK? how was it a Hoax? He never ever said it was anything but a clock.
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Apparently if the device appears to be a bomb although not one that is an actual offense. It's different than a bomb hoax. Also read the kid wasn't exactly that cooperative when first confronted about it.
 

Not taking sides here, but I sure would not have known that thing was a clock, plug or no. Wonder why they didn't get his science teacher in to see what the teacher thought before all the hullabaloo.
 

I have a couple of observations here.

When my children and grandchildren did science projects in middle and high school, they had to give a summary to the teacher showing what it would be. Then they had to get the teacher's approval of the project. As they advanced, they had to show their work before submitting the finished project. Did the teacher not know he was making a clock? Why not? Shouldn't he have told her instead of just showing up with it?

He supposedly is an extraordinarily intelligent young person. In today's world, did he not know that taking something to school even remotely resembling a bomb is not a good idea? Did his parents not know this, too?
 
This wasn't a bomb either or was it? yemen-bomb_1750246c.jpg




Actually, it transmitted to a close location to the BOMB!!!!!! Made with loving hands in Yemen destined for America.
 
In today's climate the police were right to arrest him. My god the uproar had they not done so. It doesn't look like a clock to me. How come his teacher didn't know he was making a clock? Sorry but his parents should have advised him on this.
 
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http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/

We examined the clock photo after its release and, while we’re pleased with Ahmed’s gumption, we’re also charmed by the innocence of the build.

For starters, the case, mistakenly referred to as a briefcase by some outlets, appears to be a simple child’s pencil box (see the power plug on the right side as the “banana for scale”).

Inside it, the electronics appear less as a combination of miscellaneous parts wired together into a timepiece, and more so as simply the guts of a standard digital alarm clock. Seen are a big seven-segment display, a transformer for stepping down the line voltage, 9-volt connector for power-outage battery backup, plus the control board with buttons to set the clock, and the main board that connects all the pieces together, attached to the display by a wide ribbon cable.

Ahmed should be proud of his build. All 14-year-olds possess curiosity about taking things apart and putting them together; this is integral to learning and growing, which allows us to understand and master technology. It’s an extremely unfortunate situation that none of his teachers were able to understand the build, nor his intention to connect with them and find someone to foster his creative desires.

We hope that through today’s events, Ahmed and all children misunderstood for their embracement of technology are given deeper consideration for their endeavors. There’s a lot of discussion still ongoing — some of it about STEM, some of it about race. All of this is good; today’s a day when a child’s arrest forced many overdue conversations to happen.
 
QuickSilver said:
That's not the point Phil.... Kit or not.... It's definately a clock.... not a bomb.
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It is the point, or rather one of them - the kid is not what he is made out to be. He's no budding engineering genius - I've known 4-year-olds that could take some pre-fabbed clock parts and stick them in a cheap terrorist-device-looking case.

Right away, because he's a Muslim, people start making excuses for him, and that isn't right. I'm not giving him that kind of pass.

Be honest - if the articles didn't say it was a clock and you were to look at it, would you be able to say it was a clock?
 
Phil..... who cares if he was a budding genius... the fact that he isn't makes it even more pathetic.. It was hardly a sophisticated detonation devise... it wasn't even a sophisticated clock.. another case of profiling.. I doubt if he were a white Christian so much hoopla would have been made of this.
 
Right away, because he's a Muslim, people start making excuses for him, and that isn't right. I'm not giving him that kind of pass.
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I agree.

And if someone were to put that apparatus/device (whatever one wants to call it) in front of me, tell me nothing about who built it, and ask me what it is, I would not say a clock. I may or may not say an explosive device, but I would NOT say "I think it's a clock".

I also don't think the boy deserves all the notoriety and accolades (the White House, Mark Zuckerberg, etc). News anchors telling about all the support in a "aaww, isn't that sweet....poor guy....hope all that makes him feel better" tone. :rolleyes:
 
I'll just reiterate, it doesn't look like a clock anymore than anything else if the officers hadn't done something and the damn thing was some sort of detonating device all hell would break loose. They did the right thing. Muslim, Chinese, African, white or any combination thereof they did the proper thing.
 
My biggest objection when I first saw the story which included clock, hoax, 14 year old etc is that I think juveniles should not be put into the criminal justice until there is a significant foul so to speak. So a seemingly "innocent" or 'non malicious' 14 year in handcuffs got my dander up. I understood that the device had to be checked out and procedures followed etc. But after hearing the media portray as nothing to see move along, how dare they was too much. The aftermath is when all the crap really started.
 
applecruncher said:
And if someone were to put that apparatus/device (whatever one wants to call it) in front of me, tell me nothing about who built it, and ask me what it is, I would not say a clock. I may or may not say an explosive device, but I would NOT say "I think it's a clock".
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That's something that occurred to me a bit later, after I was swept away by the media coverage. I've always been a tinkerer from a very early age, and even after 50 years of sticking my nose into mechanical things I wouldn't have called that a clock.
 
So the kid wasn't an engineering genius..It was a mediocre clock at best... in fact.. it probably sucked as a clock.. So what ado you think his motives were? Other than to have the whole country critique his lack of ability.. Do you think he intended to provoke authorities to haul him into the police station in handcuffs? Do you think this was an intentional plot to draw attention to profiling? What do you believe this whole thing is about?
 
I'm not going to debate this to death, :beatdeadhorse: but I don't think the boy had any motives, other than to bring something to school to show his teacher (as he said). No one has said he had sinister, nefarious motives. But his parents and the media have turned it into something else and now he's enjoying the ride - as any 14 yr old would do.

I also heard his family is considering transferring. Fine. Maybe that's best. Move on. And Obama and Zuckerberg need to get back to business.
 
After having read this I am glad he and his activist family are moving. Good riddance.
 

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