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The conversation should never have been held at all, imo.The conversation should have been held without the aunt present, for sure.
The conversation should never have been held at all, imo.The conversation should have been held without the aunt present, for sure.
I don't see any reason for anyone to be offended. What I mentioned is stated in the forum rules:Considering that this was a first post I might be offended by your reply, also no need for shouting. Yes we all have our opinions it was just not very kind.
well said IMO .... like it or not this does happen.As a guy, I can say this...don't let your daughters or granddaughters dress provocatively.
And those arguments about it being "freedom of choice" --- they are all nonsense.
It is not that kids shouldn't be allowed to be kids and biology should be allowed to take its normal course.
What is going to happen is that the girl is going to be seen as a target by the WORST of the boys. Instead of finding some young boy that she likes and falls for....she is just going to attract some young jerk, only interested in physical attraction.
It would be nice if young girls could just wear what they want, without attracting attention from the worst little demons. But that is exactly what will happen.
well said IMO .... like it or not this does happen.
I frankly do not see why some get so offended when this is pointed out.....
Heh. When I was junior& high school age we girls were mostly wearing pleated wool skirts and stiff buttoned up shirts made of thick oxford cloth.Testosterone is really a kind of "crazy juice."
And you're saying the answer here is to cover up the girl rather than educate the boy to control himself? By extension, that girls should be (and are) taught how to protect themselves from boys, but we shouldn't bother teaching our boys not to attack girls because, what, they are such mindless, unevolved animals they have no control over their actions if they see a certain amount of skin exposed. Really? Am I getting that right?As a guy, I can say this...don't let your daughters or granddaughters dress provocatively.
And those arguments about it being "freedom of choice" --- they are all nonsense.
It is not that kids shouldn't be allowed to be kids and biology should be allowed to take its normal course.
What is going to happen is that the girl is going to be seen as a target by the WORST of the boys. Instead of finding some young boy that she likes and falls for....she is just going to attract some young jerk, only interested in physical attraction.
It would be nice if young girls could just wear what they want, without attracting attention from the worst little demons. But that is exactly what will happen.
Thank you for this, it was just my perception. We might interpret differently but that is what makes us unique.I don't see any reason for anyone to be offended. What I mentioned is stated in the forum rules:
1. Always use a descriptive and complete title when starting a new thread, a long title is preferred. The thread title should clearly tell what a thread is about.
2. Please don't use all-capital words in thread titles.
3. If you write a long post, please separate it into several paragraphs for easier reading.
4. Write a summary or quote one or two paragraphs when using external links.
I don't believe I was shouting by making the word "please" in bold. It was just for emphasis. (The word "use" was in bold by accident.) I didn't think I was being unkind. Sorry if you see it that way.
Wut?!!I gleaned from others posts, he brought up before others, about the way the 12 year old dressed with regard to her midriff. This was disgraceful.
And you're saying the answer here is to cover up the girl rather than educate the boy to control himself? By extension, that girls should be (and are) taught how to protect themselves from boys, but we shouldn't bother teaching our boys not to attack girls because, what, they are such mindless, unevolved animals they have no control over their actions if they see a certain amount of skin exposed. Really? Am I getting that right?
Because, if I'm wrong and I misunderstood you (which I feverently hope I am and I did) would mind you clarifying for me, please?![]()
Why must you villianize boys and men at large due to the actions of a few?My two cousins both worked at Hooter's.
They both picked up a stalker.
This is not about freedom issues, it is about pragmatic security issues.
Forget about regular boys. What about the little sociopaths who are going to become sex offenders?
Who gets targeted?
The one who stands out gets targeted.
It is as simple as that.
If you want the freedom to jog alone in the woods, you can. But if you jog in a crowded park, with a partner, in daylight...your risk of getting attacked is going to be hundreds of times lower.
Is it fair? NO.
Is it reality? Unfortunately, yes, I think so.
Have you read about the sex games that are going around these days? About the kinds of things even junior high school kids have been doing? Unbelievable things. Counting sexual conquests at age 13!
My doctor's daughter's friend was raped (date rape situation) at age 14 or so.
Did you know, that in many high schools, across America, it is a kind of tradition, that one of the cheerleaders has to sleep with the guy on the football team who scores a touchdown that week...
So, some 16 year old girl, HAS to sleep with some guy that she barely knows, because it is some kind of nutty tradition?
Yes, it is that crazy out there.
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Sordid sexual tradition alleged at elite prep school
"Labrie also told the detective of a contest where boys compete to "score" with the most girls, keeping a running tally written in indelible marker on a wall behind washing machines. The school kept painting over the scoreboard so it eventually was moved online. He acknowledged to the detective he was "trying to be number one," the detective wrote."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/st-pauls-school-rape-case-reveals-sordid-sexual-tradition/
Hi, @JonSR77My two cousins both worked at Hooter's.
They both picked up a stalker.
This is not about freedom issues, it is about pragmatic security issues.
Forget about regular boys. What about the little sociopaths who are going to become sex offenders?
Who gets targeted?
The one who stands out gets targeted.
It is as simple as that.
If you want the freedom to jog alone in the woods, you can. But if you jog in a crowded park, with a partner, in daylight...your risk of getting attacked is going to be hundreds of times lower.
Is it fair? NO.
Is it reality? Unfortunately, yes, I think so.
Have you read about the sex games that are going around these days? About the kinds of things even junior high school kids have been doing? Unbelievable things. Counting sexual conquests at age 13!
My doctor's daughter's friend was raped (date rape situation) at age 14 or so.
Did you know, that in many high schools, across America, it is a kind of tradition, that one of the cheerleaders has to sleep with the guy on the football team who scores a touchdown that week...
So, some 16 year old girl, HAS to sleep with some guy that she barely knows, because it is some kind of nutty tradition?
Yes, it is that crazy out there.
![]()
Sordid sexual tradition alleged at elite prep school
"Labrie also told the detective of a contest where boys compete to "score" with the most girls, keeping a running tally written in indelible marker on a wall behind washing machines. The school kept painting over the scoreboard so it eventually was moved online. He acknowledged to the detective he was "trying to be number one," the detective wrote."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/st-pauls-school-rape-case-reveals-sordid-sexual-tradition/
I hear what you're saying; there are female sexual aggressors and that shouldn't be ignored, but the fact is that most of them are men.A blind man (or boy, for that matter) likely wouldn't have sex with a woman against her will based solely upon what she was wearing. Males are not the only predators in the world.
Don't worry @Remy, most everyone here is nice. Moods fluctuate sometimes, especially with this kind of topic. I just pay no attention to those who just like to argue.Is it me or is the forum getting weird. I feel like I have to become for defensive, snarky and even mean at this point and I really do try to be supportive usually. Most here are nice but I've noticed a change not for the better lately.