A probably silly question for our UK members

DW...I suppose strictly speaking the Queens mothers' mother ( the queens' grandmother) Cecilia Cavedish-Bentinck.. was a commoner but she was the great grand-daughter of British Prime Minister William Cavendish Bentinck the 3rd Duke of Portland. When she married Lord Glamis (Claude Bowes Lyon) she became Lady Glamis and then after he inherited his fathers' title of Earl in 1904, she became the Countess Strathmore.

Incidentally the Bowes-Lyon family home is just 10 minutes from here, where The Queen Mother was born and raised and where her family still live and own the Village and most of the surrounding hamlets and villages too .


Have a look...


http://www.stpaulswaldenbury.co.uk/
 

There is a distinction between the royalty, the nobility and the rest.
I understand that even some of the Queen's grandchildren are considered commoners?
Princess Anne's children have no titles? No?
 
You're correct...Princess Anne insisted on her children's births that they were not bestowed with Royal titles, and remained simply Master and Miss...much to the Queens' chagrin....and Princess Alexandra chose not to have a title conferred on her children either..
 

We don't have that here in Canada and the U.S., but in many European countries it still exists, except in Russia and France of course, where, as you know, at the time of their revolutions all the royalty and upper class nobility were executed -- not very pretty. Here we are all commoners, even the heads of state and we are totally OK with it, although there is an element of class consciousness in some places where I believe, if the ancestors came over on the Mayflower or some such ship or if they've been in a country the longest and have made a lot of money, they somehow consider themselves better. But that is really pretty archaic thinking and we look down on it. :)
 
Just want to add that I do have a soft spot in my heart for the Queen and her family. As a small child, we lived in Australia and around the time of her coronation, the Queen visited. All the schoolkids received little packets of Coronation goodies, cards and little crowns and such. What a thrill. Then we got to see her in her pretty yellow dress. Later, when our family moved to Canada, there were visits from Princess Margaret. We lined the street and waited for her convertible to go by so we could catch a glimpse.

I think the royal family are romantic figures we can look up to because it's a way to imagine that life is not all grey and grim - and some are living fairytale lives..... all hogwash of course, because they struggle with life just like everyone else and are all too human.
 
"Laurie, Here in our country Diana was well loved as is Kate"

The Americans have always had a high regard for long legged blondes, nothing personal, it's in your psyche!

Everyone assumes we shall have a King Charles, but he is no spring chicken and has a florid complexion, he could pop off at any time, leaving us with a King Edward (not William, current succession goes to the eldest son of the monarch), and eventually Queen Beatrice, as the recent changes to primogeniture will have kicked in by then!

What's wrong with Camilla and Charles? Absolutely nothing.

He's not the first young man to be bamboozled by a designing blonde, and he won't be the last.

Camilla has sorted him out beautifully, and I hope I live long enough to see them both in Westminster Abbey.
 
I quite like both Charles and Camilla, the only person in the Royal family I couldn't stand or had any respect for was the Queen Mother, in my view she was nothing but an interfering old biddy.
 
oakapple said:
AZ, there is so much made up rubbish out there in 'the media' about the royal family, it sells papers /mags etc.Truth to tell, because the Queen has been so private, we know very little about her really, and although not a fan of royaltyat all, I think she has done her job in a admirable way, which is more than can be said about a lot of them.
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They are all over our tabloids all the time. Does Camilla drink? AND Kate laid into her for being an alcoholic.. That's what they tell us..
 
Royal stories sell papers, and the papers don't care if things are true or not, even if they are sued, they have sold enough to cover the fines.Work on the premise that none of it is true.
 
I notice no one has mentioned 'Randy Andy' here and some of his dubious activities and associations.

And what about Philip and his one-liner non-pc cracks. Does he prepare in advance of an event with a suitable comment. He seems like he's having fun. I see in photographs he is often laughing. It appears to me that the royal couple (Queen and Philip) have a good time together.
 
QuickSilver said:
They are all over our tabloids all the time. Does Camilla drink? AND Kate laid into her for being an alcoholic.. That's what they tell us..
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Aren't those the same rags that report about 3 headed alien babies, pregnant men, etc etc?
 

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