A San Diego ER is seeing about 37 pot related psychosis patients a DAY

Ask any street cop which they would rather deal with.........A drunk or somebody high on marijuana ? The smoker, every time. Drunks are quick to anger and start fighting, the smoker won't. In my opinion it takes a LONG time of steady daily use, to get to the point of psychosis. JImB.
 
They say todays average thc content is about 25% compared to the 3-4% levels decades is to blame. Also the pot psychosis epis out numbering the amphetamine related cases where most used to be found.
 
One hit off of a 80% THC sativa is the strength of a whole joint of Columbian from our day. Some young folks have to learn when to stop. I don't, btw, "approve" of pot for anyone younger than college age, not that anyone in high school is listening to me.

My son listened to me. I told him before he was jr. high age "I will ALWAYS know if you are high, you can't hide it from me!"
 
Pepper said:
One hit off of a 80% THC sativa is the strength of a whole joint of Columbian from our day. Some young folks have to learn when to stop. I don't, btw, "approve" of pot for anyone younger than college age, not that anyone in high school is listening to me.

My son listened to me. I told him before he was jr. high age "I will ALWAYS know if you are high, you can't hide it from me!"
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25 years ago we lived in the poor side of town. Misa son was about 15. Most all his friends were black. Rap had just made it big, so bluntz albeit it was 3-4 % and 40's were the thing. We would have to hire have a detective follow him everywhere to prevent him from taking part. He did and now he is manager of a co-op grocery store in Kansas....almost middle class at 36. He occasionally does different THC things. It should be used as a medicine at the high potency. Unfortunately it has become a trend to have high percent. Our retired dentist boosts of using 34% indica. That would put an elephant to sleep!
 
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Time will tell. MJ wasn't legal 40 years ago. The Mexican drug cartels weren't so strong 40 years ago. The more people that get "hooked" on MJ, the more many of them will transition to stronger drugs.
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(I'll try to keep this brief, as I'm REALLY fed up with snide remarks and 'lols' when I express 'unpopular' viewpoints)

@DonM : Isn't that the way the 'gateway' theory was approached decades ago?
If so, I honestly don't have an opinion, as I have nothing to base it on.
Reason: individuals I knew when I was a young adult who were regularly using as you call it MJ AND no other drugs didn't last long enough TO 'transition,' they committed suicide- 2 by gunshot, 1 by hanging, all were in their mid-twenties. Much later, a local girl also rigged a gun up to a door and shot herself- she was 13 years old.

However- one approach that unfortunately is valid is young people getting the message- sometimes from their own parents- that marijuana is natural, safe, and acceptable.. so as they don't want to be like older generations they choose harder drugs instead.

As some use the term mind-altering substances- the human mind is not meant to be 'altered.' A few years ago, I had a psychology book that showed brain scans that prove the brains of addicts are different.
 
That gateway nonsense was dispatched over 40 years ago.
Totally agree. The criteria used to support the "gateway" theory, also would make water a gateway drug. 100% of all addicts report prior use of water, before becoming addicted. I'm not saying that smoking a foreign substance is healthy, but there's no evidence that MJ causes other drug addictions- other than a contrived statistic.
The problem is not MJ, it's the humans using it. People with mental health issues generally self-medicate. MJ, in the past, may not have had the potency, alone, to produce the desired results. Today, with more potent varieties, MJ may give the desired effect??? I don't know,
 
Significant numbers of people that regularly use neural system affecting drugs often use multiple substances, especially alcohol and prescription psyche drugs. But if they actually go in to see a doctor, they are likely to only admit using substances a doctor won't condemn them for. See this on other boards where someone asks for help and advice and then eventually admits to what they are afraid to tell others about. Many in this era think if they are taking a prescription drug it doesn't count...uh yeah, you mean my benzoz?
 
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From a NPR article.
"Use of high-potency weed almost doubled the odds of having psychosis compared with someone who had never smoked weed, explains Di Forti.

And for those who used high-potency pot on a daily basis, the risk of psychosis was even greater — four times greater than those who had never used."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...of high-potency weed,those who had never used.


Most police departments don't and never did keep records showing whether or not perpetrators of violent crime had been using marijuana, but now that some departments are keeping records it's surprising how often the drug is in their system. There's a difference between being drunk and rowdy and starting fights and a previously quiet, law abiding citizen suddenly killing themselves or someone else.
A few cases here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/

Time certainly will tell, but if I were the parent of a young teen today I would be very worried about this. It really doesn't matter if marijuana is a gateway drug to harder substances if their life is ruined before they have time to get to the other drugs.
 
It can definitely be a gateway in my opinion. I rely more on my own eyes instead of figures. All the hard core druggies I know started with MJ. Every smoker I know started with a cigarette.
 
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