A Warning About Visiting America

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In an advisory issued Wednesday, Amnesty International said: "Depending on the traveler's gender identity, race, country of origin, ethnic background, or sexual orientation, they may be at higher risk of being targeted with gun violence, and should plan accordingly."
Isn't this sad that it sounds very much like warnings about going to Germany when Hitler Came to power.
 

fmdog44 said:
In an advisory issued Wednesday, Amnesty International said: "Depending on the traveler's gender identity, race, country of origin, ethnic background, or sexual orientation, they may be at higher risk of being targeted with gun violence, and should plan accordingly."
Isn't this sad that it sounds very much like warnings about going to Germany when Hitler Came to power.
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Not stating the United States or US, as we call our country
It said "Visiting America" .... FYI .. this foreign directive is coming from Amnesty International, which is based in London, England.
 

StarSong said:
They do state USA. Here's a copy of their travel warning.
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That's just it. We don't talk that way (in the US) ... We don't call our country "America" ... only foreigners do.
We aren't America .... and I'm sure all the other countries in North, Central and South America don't think so either.
 
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You can't attend a "Garlic Festival" without being gunned down. Or you can't buy school supplies without giving up your life. So what gathering of Americans is safe from a nut with a gun? We're having a 100 year old fair next week. Will some Neo Nazi idiot mall down 40-50 martyrs to ensure that we don't have "brown" grandchildren? You can't say it won't happen. You know there will be another shooting. So, how do you know it won't be that little fair? The "Old West" was a figment of 19th & 20th Century writers. We are playing with real weapons and real bullets. But you know that we aren't going to do a damn thing about it. Till the next shooting, when we will again hear the phrase "our thoughts and prayers go out to....."
 
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, Bonnie.

People in the US don't call our country America? Since when? I've always referred to my home country as America and myself as an American. As do most people I know who were born and raised in the US.

In any event, it doesn't change the statement made by Amnesty International. Instead of blaming the messenger, perhaps we should take a look at the message, i.e., it may not be safe for people of certain races, ethnicities, and gender ID / sexual orientation to travel in the US.

I can't argue their point.
 
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fuzzybuddy said:
You can't attend a "Garlic Festival" without being gunned down. So what gathering of Americans is safe from a nut with a gun? We're having a 100 year old fair next week. Will some Neo Nazi idiot mall down 40-50 martyrs to ensure that we don't have "brown" grandchildren? You can't say it won't happen. You know there will be another shooting. So, how do you know it won't be that little fair? The "Old West" was a figment of 19th & 20th Century writers. We are playing with real weapons and real bullets. But you know that we aren't going to do a damn thing about it. Till the next shooting, when we will again heart the phrase "our thoughts and prayers go out to....."
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I find myself increasingly nervous at public gatherings. Even while getting my hair cut in a small neighborhood salon, the thought goes through my mind, "What would I do if someone walked in with an automatic weapon? Try to run? Is the back door locked? Stay in place and pray it's only a robbery? What would I do?"

It's so terrible to have those thoughts. What kind of country are we leaving our children and grandchildren, all in the name of the Second Amendment?

If the Founding Fathers had any idea how their words would be interpreted, the kinds of weapons that would be invented, and how tragically this would spin out for future generations, they would surely have stated their intent more clearly and narrowly.
 
StarSong said:
I'm not sure what you're getting at, Bonnie.

People in the US don't call our country America? Since when? I've always referred to my home country as America and myself as an American. As do most people I know who were born and raised in the US.
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Sorry for the diversion about our country .. Not part of the message. I agree.

Just history about who we are, going back to Columbus and the Indians ... we were a newly arrogant nation declaring itself superior to the rest of the dozens of sovereign nations from Alaska to Argentina, and getting the identity of two entire continents.
That's all.
 
Lara said:
I don't mind if anyone wants to warn other countries not to come here. We love our visitors but we're also trying to stop the massive flow into our country by those who want to take advantage of the American Dream. So, thanks for your help Amnesty Int'l.
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Agree. But I doubt that particular "flow" is reading any Amnesty International travel bulletins. :D
 
Bonnie said:
Sorry for the diversion about our country .. Not part of the message. I agree.

Just history about who we are, going back to Columbus and the Indians ... we were a newly arrogant nation declaring itself superior to the rest of the dozens of sovereign nations from Alaska to Argentina, and getting the identity of two entire continents.
That's all.
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I don't understand what you mean by "getting the identity of two entire continents." We are called America because it's a shortened version of the United States of America. No other country has the word "America" in the name.
 
Ok, I'm a Canadian. A couple of weeks ago my wife & I spent 4 days visiting & shopping in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Let me say that we felt perfectly safe & the Americans we spoke to to were all very nice people. Generally, speaking I like the rural and small towns of the USA. Real nice folks there. However, the big cities of the US are different. When you have monster cities like Chicago, Atlanta, New York, LA, etc. you just don't know what might happen. By the way, we spent 2 winters in Port Isabel, Texas & the Americans down there were all really nice folks. I'd love to go back. We loved South Padre Island, Brownsville, etc. but we didn't even want to stop in Fort Worth/Dallas. Give me the American in a small town anytime. They are always real nice.
 
When I was in the service, we just called America “the states.” For example, “I’ll be glad to get back to the states.” Or: “When I was living back in the states, I worked in a bakery.”
 
Floridatennisplayer said:
It’s seem to be more of a political message to me
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Not really. When we have travelled overseas we register our trip with a government website and then we receive advisory warnings about all sorts of threats. For example when we were planning to visit China we were very concerned about the SARS epidemic and wanted to assess the risk. SARS killed a lot less people than are currently being gunned down in America. We also checked the warnings for Turkey, Egypt and Kenya when we took an extended holiday in 2000. We visited US in 1985 and all I worried about then were earthquakes and certain diseases that don't exist down here such as rabies and plague.

To issue a travel warning is a precaution, not a political statement.
 
C'est Moi said:
I don't understand what you mean by "getting the identity of two entire continents." We are called America because it's a shortened version of the United States of America. No other country has the word "America" in the name.
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Then there's this.........

"Asia and Africa are joined by the Isthmus of Suez, and North and South America by the Isthmus of Panama. ... North America and South America are treated as separate continents in the seven-continent model. However, they may also be viewed as a single continent known as America or the Americas. "

A fine line !
 

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