After COVID-19 vaccination: Is it OK to visit with friends and loved ones?

DaveA

Senior Member
The one that seemed the silliest was all the whining about not being able to get their hair done and it nails done..
Thankfully, in this case, I have no hair (to speak of) so that eliminates one of my risks. Not sure about the nails although it's kind of late in life to start having them done now, in my late 80's.
 

garyt1957

Member
What part of that is not what you've read, Gary?
This: I think that after the second dose, there is a short period (about 2 weeks) when you are still able to pass it along, but after that you're pretty
much free and clear.

Everything I've read is that even after the second dose you are very likely capable of passing the virus to others. No one knows for sure,of course, but I've never read anywhere that you're free and clear after the second dose.
 
Everything I've read is that even after the second dose you are very likely capable of passing the virus to others. No one knows for sure,of course, but I've never read anywhere that you're free and clear after the second dose.
I've read that scientists and epidemiologists just don't know yet.

There's some anecdotal information, of course, but as the saying goes, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
 

I am so sick of all the petulant, selfish people moaning because they are being asked not to go out and play the way they used to, both to save their health and those they may be in contact with. Of course we miss close contact with our friends & relatives and our usual pursuits, but if one has any brains & imagination at all, it’s possible to compensate. It’s kind of shocking to find out what some people I thought I knew are really like....ignorant and selfish.
Yup, on balance, boredom and frustration beat the heck out of being on a ventilator and probably eventually drowning in your own secretions.
 
Even after getting the COVID-19 vaccine, continue to follow safety precautions and consider avoiding in-person visits with friends and family until more is known about the immunity the vaccines provide. If you choose to have in-person visits, remember to keep distance between yourself and others (within about 6 feet, or 2 meters). Wear a mask. Visit outdoors, when possible, or open windows and doors to make sure the space is well-ventilated. And wash your hands often.

Therefore, we all have to wait to see if the vaccine is really a vaccine. :unsure:
Or perhaps it never was a vaccine 😲 and was really something else the whole time. 🤪
 

charry

Senior Member
Location
UK
I really don’t know why everyone’s having the jabs .......
Your no better off.....you can still get it and transmit it....and all the restrictions are still in place the same for you and likes of me who are anti vac......
I think your all guinea pigs personally......
 

charry

Senior Member
Location
UK
Reasons why I won't take the vaccine

This list was compiled by Israeli Rabbi Hananya Weissman.

1. This is not a vaccine.
2. Pharmaceutical companies, politicians, the medical establishment, and the media have joined forces to universally call it a vaccine when it isn't, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer while undergoing treatment.
3. The intended benefit of this treatment is minimal and in any case will not last long.
4. I can reduce my chances of contracting a severe virus if I naturally strengthen my immune system.
5. The establishment insists that this treatment is safe.
6. Pharmaceutical companies are not responsible in any way if something goes wrong, and they cannot be sued.
7. The Israeli Prime Minister has openly acknowledged that the Israeli people are the world's laboratory for this experimental treatment.
8. Israel has agreed to share its citizens ' medical data with a foreign pharmaceutical company as a major part of its consent to receive this treatment.
9. Pfizer executives and board members officially declare that they did not use their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances.
10. The establishment media accepted this ridiculous excuse without question or concern.
11. Three facts to put together:
"Bill Gates touts these vaccines as essential to human survival.
- Bill Gates believes that there are too many people in the world and it needs to be "depopulated".
- Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, also did not get an injection. No rush.
12. The institution was completely one-sided to use the vaccine.
13. There is an intensive awareness campaign for people taking the vaccine.
14. The masses follow them in tow, posting photos of them being injected, fueling peer pressure to do the same.
15. Those who express concerns about vaccination are bullied, slandered, bullied, censored, ostracized, threatened, and dismissed from their jobs.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of mankind.
17. It is deliberately not portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in human history, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is greatly downplayed.
18. If the truth were told, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment.
19. The medical institution does not inform about any of this.
20. We are under various pressures to get injections, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of a democratic society.
21. The government has closed its virus and treatment protocol for THIRTY YEARS.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won't share their own protocol on this with us?
23. The establishment has hired doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to talk about people who don't want to be given a new vaccine.
24. I know many people who have been injected, but none of them have studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits and risks, compared this option with other alternatives, were really informed, and decided that this was the best option for them.
25. Pharmaceutical companies have a long and illustrious history of creating mass slaughter with miracle vaccines that they impose on unsuspecting people, even after serious problems have already become known.
26. Indeed, horror stories are already appearing at an incredible rate, but politicians are not at all concerned, the medical establishment dismisses them as unrelated or insignificant, the media ignores it, pharmaceutical companies move forward at full speed, and those who raise the red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished.
 

Ruthanne

SF VIP
Location
Midwest
A couple of GFs and I (all vaccinated) are meeting up for an outdoor patio restaurant lunch this week. First time since the pandemic for me, not sure about them.

I'm eager to see the restaurant's setup.
I hope it goes well and you have a good time--we've all been waiting for so long to enjoy ourselves again.
 

Dana

Senior Member
Reasons why I won't take the vaccine

This list was compiled by Israeli Rabbi Hananya Weissman.

1. This is not a vaccine.
2. Pharmaceutical companies, politicians, the medical establishment, and the media have joined forces to universally call it a vaccine when it isn't, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer while undergoing treatment.
3. The intended benefit of this treatment is minimal and in any case will not last long.
4. I can reduce my chances of contracting a severe virus if I naturally strengthen my immune system.
5. The establishment insists that this treatment is safe.
6. Pharmaceutical companies are not responsible in any way if something goes wrong, and they cannot be sued.
7. The Israeli Prime Minister has openly acknowledged that the Israeli people are the world's laboratory for this experimental treatment.
8. Israel has agreed to share its citizens ' medical data with a foreign pharmaceutical company as a major part of its consent to receive this treatment.
9. Pfizer executives and board members officially declare that they did not use their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances.
10. The establishment media accepted this ridiculous excuse without question or concern.
11. Three facts to put together:
"Bill Gates touts these vaccines as essential to human survival.
- Bill Gates believes that there are too many people in the world and it needs to be "depopulated".
- Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, also did not get an injection. No rush.
12. The institution was completely one-sided to use the vaccine.
13. There is an intensive awareness campaign for people taking the vaccine.
14. The masses follow them in tow, posting photos of them being injected, fueling peer pressure to do the same.
15. Those who express concerns about vaccination are bullied, slandered, bullied, censored, ostracized, threatened, and dismissed from their jobs.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of mankind.
17. It is deliberately not portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in human history, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is greatly downplayed.
18. If the truth were told, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment.
19. The medical institution does not inform about any of this.
20. We are under various pressures to get injections, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of a democratic society.
21. The government has closed its virus and treatment protocol for THIRTY YEARS.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won't share their own protocol on this with us?
23. The establishment has hired doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to talk about people who don't want to be given a new vaccine.
24. I know many people who have been injected, but none of them have studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits and risks, compared this option with other alternatives, were really informed, and decided that this was the best option for them.
25. Pharmaceutical companies have a long and illustrious history of creating mass slaughter with miracle vaccines that they impose on unsuspecting people, even after serious problems have already become known.
26. Indeed, horror stories are already appearing at an incredible rate, but politicians are not at all concerned, the medical establishment dismisses them as unrelated or insignificant, the media ignores it, pharmaceutical companies move forward at full speed, and those who raise the red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished.

Just so you know, this is the same Rabbi who declared that the coronavirus is due to homosexuality :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

JimBob1952

Senior Member
Reasons why I won't take the vaccine

This list was compiled by Israeli Rabbi Hananya Weissman.

1. This is not a vaccine.
2. Pharmaceutical companies, politicians, the medical establishment, and the media have joined forces to universally call it a vaccine when it isn't, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer while undergoing treatment.
3. The intended benefit of this treatment is minimal and in any case will not last long.
4. I can reduce my chances of contracting a severe virus if I naturally strengthen my immune system.
5. The establishment insists that this treatment is safe.
6. Pharmaceutical companies are not responsible in any way if something goes wrong, and they cannot be sued.
7. The Israeli Prime Minister has openly acknowledged that the Israeli people are the world's laboratory for this experimental treatment.
8. Israel has agreed to share its citizens ' medical data with a foreign pharmaceutical company as a major part of its consent to receive this treatment.
9. Pfizer executives and board members officially declare that they did not use their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances.
10. The establishment media accepted this ridiculous excuse without question or concern.
11. Three facts to put together:
"Bill Gates touts these vaccines as essential to human survival.
- Bill Gates believes that there are too many people in the world and it needs to be "depopulated".
- Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, also did not get an injection. No rush.
12. The institution was completely one-sided to use the vaccine.
13. There is an intensive awareness campaign for people taking the vaccine.
14. The masses follow them in tow, posting photos of them being injected, fueling peer pressure to do the same.
15. Those who express concerns about vaccination are bullied, slandered, bullied, censored, ostracized, threatened, and dismissed from their jobs.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of mankind.
17. It is deliberately not portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in human history, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is greatly downplayed.
18. If the truth were told, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment.
19. The medical institution does not inform about any of this.
20. We are under various pressures to get injections, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of a democratic society.
21. The government has closed its virus and treatment protocol for THIRTY YEARS.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won't share their own protocol on this with us?
23. The establishment has hired doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to talk about people who don't want to be given a new vaccine.
24. I know many people who have been injected, but none of them have studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits and risks, compared this option with other alternatives, were really informed, and decided that this was the best option for them.
25. Pharmaceutical companies have a long and illustrious history of creating mass slaughter with miracle vaccines that they impose on unsuspecting people, even after serious problems have already become known.
26. Indeed, horror stories are already appearing at an incredible rate, but politicians are not at all concerned, the medical establishment dismisses them as unrelated or insignificant, the media ignores it, pharmaceutical companies move forward at full speed, and those who raise the red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished.
 

JimBob1952

Senior Member

This list is really dumb. Just point to #11, Bill Gates has in fact been vaccinated and posted pictures of himself getting a vaccine. Rabbis should stick to doing whatever rabbis do and let the medical and public health people deal with the virus.
 
This list is really dumb. Just point to #11, Bill Gates has in fact been vaccinated and posted pictures of himself getting a vaccine. Rabbis should stick to doing whatever rabbis do and let the medical and public health people deal with the virus.
I really think there’s a lot of truth in your statement.
Every TV news channel has their own “expert”,there’s more misinformation out there than Bayer has aspirin.
 

Sunny

SF VIP
Location
Maryland
Why in the world should anyone take the word of some (non-medical) rabbi in Israel as the ultimate truth about this subject? And I've read that Israel has one of the highest rates of Covid-19 in the world. The ultra-orthodox, in particular, are defying all the health measures. They are not getting vaccinated, they won't wear masks, they are crowding into indoor spaces to celebrate weddings and holidays, etc.

This is nothing to do with Covid, but many ultra-orthodox Israelis just got killed by crowding into an arena to celebrate a minor religious holiday, after years of warnings that the space was unsafe. They were trampled to death. (And probably many of them got Covid as well.)

Charry, it's up to you whether you want to protect your own life or not. But please, come up with less ridiculous arguments if you want to cast doubt on a vaccine that we know works.
 

win231

Well-known Member
Location
CA
Personally I feel we are better off after getting the vaccine because if we do get the virus there is a high statistic number that says that we will not die from it then most likely so I am feeling much more safe than I did before getting the vaccine
No problem. Confidence is most of the battle; much like the flu shot.
 

Keesha

🌸
Location
Canada 🇨🇦
I am so sick of all the petulant, selfish people moaning because they are being asked not to go out and play the way they used to, both to save their health and those they may be in contact with. Of course we miss close contact with our friends & relatives and our usual pursuits, but if one has any brains & imagination at all, it’s possible to compensate. It’s kind of shocking to find out what some people I thought I knew are really like....ignorant and selfish.
Personally I don’t understand how asking questions about the vaccine makes one selfish.
Im certainly not expecting the world to change or go back to normal, whatever normal is. I’ve always asked questions about things so I can understand more. This is no different.

My choice has nothing to do with my lifestyle. I’ll always protect myself and others by wearing a mask. If anything, I’m not expecting anything to change. In fact, I accept life just the way it is.
Like everyone else in this world, what other choice do I have?
 

RadishRose

SF VIP
Location
CT USA
Just so you know, this is the same Rabbi who declared that the coronavirus is due to homosexuality :eek::eek::eek:
Several religious leaders claim the same nonsense. Christian as well. The only rabbi I've heard about is -

An Orthodox Israeli rabbi has claimed the spread of the deadly coronavirus in Israel and around the world is divine retribution for gay pride parades.

The remarks by Rabbi Meir Mazuz, reported by the Israel Hayom daily on Sunday, drew condemnation from rights groups, including the Anti-Defamation League, which urged him to apologize.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-rabbi-blames-coronavirus-outbreak-on-gay-pride-parades/

I'll bet there are more .
 

CarolfromTX

Senior Member
Location
Central Texas
When in the history of vaccines has anyone suggested you could still infect someone else? Never. I don’t believe that now, especially since this is so heavily politicized. you don’t want the vaccine? Don’t take it. You want to keep earring a mask and feeling virtuous about ”protecting other people? But don’t make me wear a mask after I’ve been vaccinated.
 


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